Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[DiamondSentinel]

if only you worked as hard on your scumhunting as you do on your excuses.

Funny. That's what my parents say about my schoolwork.

[Titus]

Sharky still scum.

[Randomnamechange]

Hi Titus!

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The fact he still hasn't done anything.
Normally he adds a troll here or there as town (what I've seen anyway).

The random wagon is bad.

I'm not sure what the scum head of mine means with 604. I can see Diamond as NM partner, not much going on between them apart from NM defending him.
However, Diamonds comment isn't an alignment tell neither is it beneficial. He might as well just have said, well ASP died.
I'll get more into this game tomorrow but I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

1. Why is the random wagon bad?

2.Opinion of Sharky?

The wagon on me is bad because this is my normal playstyle. Note that none of the players except ASP who had played with me before scumread me.

I think we should lynch nm if town can't come to a consensus.

Pretty sure we aren't too far from a consensus on your lynch. That self-meta defense was terrible btw.

It wasn't self-meta, I was pointing out that everyone was ignoring the meta other players had done on me.

[Sharky5x]

Sharky still scum.

Is this all you are going to post? Could you give some other reads (after reading the whole game surely you have some >.>)? You aren't going to persuade me into thinking Diamond is scum.

[itlepip]

Hi Titus!

VOTE: Not_Mafia

The fact he still hasn't done anything.
Normally he adds a troll here or there as town (what I've seen anyway).

The random wagon is bad.

I'm not sure what the scum head of mine means with 604. I can see Diamond as NM partner, not much going on between them apart from NM defending him.
However, Diamonds comment isn't an alignment tell neither is it beneficial. He might as well just have said, well ASP died.
I'll get more into this game tomorrow but I'm going to bed now.

-Vedith

1. Why is the random wagon bad?

2.Opinion of Sharky?

The wagon on me is bad because this is my normal playstyle. Note that none of the players except ASP who had played with me before scumread me.

I think we should lynch nm if town can't come to a consensus.

Pretty sure we aren't too far from a consensus on your lynch. That self-meta defense was terrible btw.

It wasn't self-meta, I was pointing out that everyone was ignoring the meta other players had done on me.

Where are these other player's defenses? All I see is 'random wagon bad' which doesn't cut it in my book

[Randomnamechange]

Ask titus or either MOHIS head if this is my normal play.

[itlepip]

Ask titus or either MOHIS head if this is my normal play.

answer pls.

[Titus]

I don't see random case at all. Not town reading him but not sleeping dead scum today.

Meta. *farts*

[lilith2013]

Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

Fine. Diego flipped town so presumably there's at least one scum on one of his wagons.

First wagon: Apricity, Jester, Not_Mafia
Second wagon: Not_mafia, random, snowman (duppin), Diamond, itle, wanderer, MOHIS
Who on these wagons do you think is scum?

[lilith2013]

And why is not_mafia on both of them? NM please explain why you wanted Diego to be lynched yesterday.

[Sharky5x]

"This is how I play when I'm town, ask the people I play with"
That isn't going to do it for me. I'm not saying I am unwilling to unvote random, but I need something about THIS GAME.

[itlepip]

And why is not_mafia on both of them? NM please explain why you wanted Diego to be lynched yesterday.

It is near prod time for him so you should get an answer soon :P

Also for the previous post I would be looking at Random and Diamond right now, but Not_Mafia and MOHIS are null for me so they are also possible.

[Randomnamechange]

"This is how I play when I'm town, ask the people I play with"
That isn't going to do it for me. I'm not saying I am unwilling to unvote random, but I need something about THIS GAME.

What have I done that is scummy.

Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

Fine. Diego flipped town so presumably there's at least one scum on one of his wagons.

First wagon: Apricity, Jester, Not_Mafia
Second wagon: Not_mafia, random, snowman (duppin), Diamond, itle, wanderer, MOHIS
Who on these wagons do you think is scum?

Probably jester. It made sense for scum to vote me as well, and he did both. NM is also a candidate. DS is still a possibility but that doesn't have much to do with that wagon.

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Funny. That's what my parents say about my schoolwork.

This is such a lame joke, yet I still loled.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Firebringer, he often are my "weak" reads right?

Also love how Sharky tries to diminish the points I make.

I don't doubt your scum hunting abilities Titus, but sometime your reasoning I just don't follow lol.
I think you can say the same for me too.

-Fire

[My Other Head Is Scum]

Ask titus or either MOHIS head if this is my normal play.

I don't know if its 'normal' for you. I can't recall strongly your meta.

The best memory of me playing with you was in the Gameboy advanced game where you and me had that huge fight and you gladiated on me and you were scum. I think I townread you in that game even after you gladiated. My memory isn't the best on that though.

Right now null on you.

-Fire

[DiamondSentinel]

Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

Fine. Diego flipped town so presumably there's at least one scum on one of his wagons.

First wagon: Apricity, Jester, Not_Mafia
Second wagon: Not_mafia, random, snowman (duppin), Diamond, itle, wanderer, MOHIS
Who on these wagons do you think is scum?

If I may, I'll answer this from my perspective.
The fact that NM is on both clearly isn't good for him, and the fact that he just jumped on mine instantly also detracts from his read by me. I'd say that MOHIS sounds like a decent lynch if was the hammering vote.

Can someone tell me who the hammering vote was? Because I'd bet that's a mafia.

In the mean time, VOTE: Not_Mafia

[My Other Head Is Scum]

I'd say that MOHIS sounds like a decent lynch if was the hammering vote.

Can someone tell me who the hammering vote was? Because I'd bet that's a mafia.

We were the hammering vote.
Vedith, the scum head did it. I yelled at him later for doing it.
The jerk.

-Fire

[Titus]

Yup not lynching MOHIS sorry DS. Find another mislynch... oh wait...

[Titus]

Sharky still scum.

Is this all you are going to post? Could you give some other reads (after reading the whole game surely you have some >.>)? You aren't going to persuade me into thinking Diamond is scum.

FB's town cuz Titus gut.

[DiamondSentinel]

What is all the fuss about Titus? This is my second game I've seen her in, and neither one she seems decent.

[itlepip]

VOTE: DiamondSentinel
Case:

lilith, I suggest that you go look at my previous game's day 1, "Antihero v. Fakegod". You will see that I always fence-sit on D1.

VOTE: Diego

We need a Day 1 lynch, and this is the best candidate.

Oh, and you guys really suck at making a last minute lynch.

First off -1 town point for hypocrisy. Second 'We need a Day 1 lynch, and this is the best candidate.' sounds like scum knowing that the lynch was a mislynch.

Now we get into the fencesitting, bonus points for

lilith, I suggest that you go look at my previous game's day 1, "Antihero v. Fakegod". You will see that I always fence-sit on D1.

and then continuing to fencesit day 2.

Hmm, I've drawn 1 thing from this.

Jester and random seem like scum on opposite sides of the coin.

Okay, so Jester and random are 2 scum, you haven't voted for either though,Continue ...

Diego was getting lynched. Maybe not the next day, but at some point. This means if scum don't lynch him they get a free night phase.

And why did you vote Diego as soon as NM said he wanted to lynch Diego? Because I never got an answer to that question.

Because we needed a consensus and I correctly guessed enough people would be willing to lynch him.

Fine. Diego flipped town so presumably there's at least one scum on one of his wagons.

First wagon: Apricity, Jester, Not_Mafia
Second wagon: Not_mafia, random, snowman (duppin), Diamond, itle, wanderer, MOHIS
Who on these wagons do you think is scum?

If I may, I'll answer this from my perspective.
The fact that NM is on both clearly isn't good for him, and the fact that he just jumped on mine instantly also detracts from his read by me.

I'd say that MOHIS sounds like a decent lynch if was the hammering vote.

Can someone tell me who the hammering vote was? Because I'd bet that's a mafia.

In the mean time, VOTE: Not_Mafia

So since the hammering vote was MOHIS, you support a MOHIS lynch, and then you voted NM because you were blatantly sheeping MOHIS's reason while you are simultaneously scum reading MOHIS. None of this is even looking at both Jester and Random who you also scumread apparently. The best I can figure is that early in the game you were setting yourself up to join either the Jester or Random wagon, now you spy a coming conflict between MOHIS and Not and so you scumread both. You vote the scummier one and support a lynch on the other one. Also I don't buy the 'who hammered' stuff when you guessed correctly who the vote was and it takes 2 seconds to look up in any case.

I'll buy the meh from Titus and Fire on random's meta while there are scummy people.

[DiamondSentinel]

You've got to be fucking kidding me...

"You guessed MOHIS"

He was the last on that list. It wasn't a guess, it was an assumption that it was the whole list, and in order. I didn't remember what hammer was, but I assumed that it was him who hammered.

I chose Not_Mafia because I'm getting a scumteam between the 2. Not_Mafia is at the start of the second wagon, with MOHIS as the hammer.

My scumlist is as followed:
Not_Mafia, MOHIS, Jester (not as much since you guys all town read him), and Random
I'm sorta sheeping everyone else's town-read on Jester because in Antihero v. Fakegod I was scumreading someone a lot of others were town-reading and they turned out town. Vice versa with random. The same happened in GoD mafia.

As to more information on my extreme laziness, you can look at Guild of Dungeoneering Mafia where I half-lost the game because I couldn't/wouldn't read all 90 pages when I subbed. I'm not saying I'm not worth the effort, but you're gonna have to be more patient on me.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'm just assuming that itlepup is playing Katsuki-town. I'm seeing a lot of similarities between the 2 in the games that I've played with Katsuki.

That's the only thing keeping you alive, kid. You're acting scum as all-be, but so does Katsuki. So you are surviving on that alone.

[Sharky5x]

Diamond is too genuine to be scum. Most of what he says is trash, but it's not reading as scum for me.

Disagree with his latest read on itlepip, btw. How is he acting scum as can be? That's how I'd describe you, which is what keeps you alive.

I need NM, Snarky, and Wanderer to start posting. This is quite painful, I happen to be interested in one of the three but he isn't posting at all.