Blitz 7: Hardcore Mafia III (Game Over)

[Errantparabola]

Nice playing with you again, ranger, ika, fire.

VOTE: ika

[Errantparabola]

Why no rvs vote, ika?

[Errantparabola]

You guys have a crush on me or something?

Y-yes

VOTE: Thelhix
It's possible that they could be posting with such sparse content (see: that naked vote) to slow down getting us out of rvs which is crucial in a game with such short deadlines

[Errantparabola]

Bloodking. Im not saying that rvs isnt important. In fact, its more important that we do more in RVS in a shorter time so that we dont have to resort to a deadline quicklynch.

[Errantparabola]

HUH?!?! Do more in rvs? What the hell does that mean?

YOU KNOW the shit that regular mafia folks do in regular mafia RVS, like talk and vote and call people out
We could be doing more of that shit

[Errantparabola]

whos up for a mass claim?

Sure thing! I am a one-shot daycop. Surely, if you read 2, you would have seen it among the sample role PMs, it's the first one listed there. You know, the one which reads, "You find scum. You win with town."? That's the one.

I know I've seen it somewhere in the forums.

I can't imagine why. Orange has always been my color, so I got a picture of an orange beaker to fit my signature.

I can see this being a scum post

I'm...a little bit concerned about how few posts have cropped up in 12 hours. This game's blitz, and more than that, it's a blitz game just beginning. Why is there so little activity?

and what, pray tell, be you be doing for these here town?

VOTE: ranger

hmm?

[Errantparabola]

Rather the opposite, I've liked everything Thelhix has done.

"I've liked everything Thelhix has done"

I quoted that twice in two different ways because that's how shocked I am

[Errantparabola]

HUH?!?! Do more in rvs? What the hell does that mean?

YOU KNOW the shit that regular mafia folks do in regular mafia RVS, like talk and vote and call people out
We could be doing more of that shit

Rvs imo is a necessary evil to the game. Saying you want to do more of it was my confusion. Believing your own bullshit unfortunately more than likely makes you town for now. Although being mistaken on an issue can happen even if your scum. I don't sense any malice or motivation for deceit.

It's not that I want RVS to go on longer
I said that we needed to do the RVS shit asap so that we could get out of it faster
I agree with you

Rather the opposite, I've liked everything Thelhix has done.

"I've liked everything Thelhix has done"

I quoted that twice in two different ways because that's how shocked I am

I've bumblefucked around not know what to do trying to find a way to assimilate myself into something substantial. What could be liked about my shit

That's what I'm saying!

[Errantparabola]

How is it obvs though?

How is it not?

Point taken.

Vote: Mariomanic

Its as good as any atm I guess

Did this just actually happen
Lhix what did fire say that convinced you

[Errantparabola]

1) ranger - hard to read
2) Chaotic Neutrality - maybe town
3) Errantparabola - so town it's more like city
4) hi I'm yakko - seems town to me
5) thelhix - can be town for now I guess
6) BL0ODK1NG - shrug
7) mariomaniac4 -don't know
8) ika - maybe town
9) firebringer - don't know

We have like 4 chances until lylo so lynch ranger, bloodking, mario, firebringer
Game solved?

the people that are not doing more need to be doing more please

[Errantparabola]

106 seems uncomfortably opportunistic to me

[Errantparabola]

How is useless=scum?

[Errantparabola]

This plurality thing blows. Also guys can we pick it up next day phase? Lets not be shit stains this game. My b for not posting too. All the holiday laziness behind us.

agreed

VOTE: blood

fine with this

[Errantparabola]

So blood was lynched how lucky. Errant changed hos vote. Does that mean we were right on the money with fire? Sigh what a hassle this is.

If we assume the worst then the game just goes in a cycle of whose play is most suspect after a lynch. So we would maybe end up losing if mafia get lynched. Not much was happening day 1. Oh man. We really shit all over the carpet on this didn't we. I think I am gonna go with the flow.

@errant why did you change your vote?

Because blood was in my lynch pool.

[Errantparabola]

Give me three hours and i will be home to do a full reread of the game. Shouldnt take too long considering it is only 10 pages long.

[Errantparabola]

Rather the opposite, I've liked everything Thelhix has done.

"I've liked everything Thelhix has done"

I quoted that twice in two different ways because that's how shocked I am

I've bumblefucked around not know what to do trying to find a way to assimilate myself into something substantial. What could be liked about my shit

I do not think this is a very town post.

Ranger's 83 seems towny enough.

This sounds legitimate.
My vote is still on Ranger.

No counter to my arguments?
Why is ranger scum?

I do not have any counter.
Your arguments are too legitimate.

This seems pretty town. Since there is some pressure on Mario at this point it's possible that a scummario would be hesitant to say something that outright admits to doing bad work in the past
I'm glad we dodged a mario lynch d1.

In this game, it might as well be.

I don't know about this logic, ranger.

Page 6 and upwards coming soon.

[Errantparabola]

At the top of page 7 and I don't think I want to lynch Lhix.

This is a scum post. You have permission to die after FB.

I don't like this.

I don't like that I have to rely so heavily on gut this game, but it might be a good test to see how good it is.

VOTE: Errantparabola
This person isn't scumhunting at all.

I've seen Errant not scumhunt.

I'm pretty sure this is Errant scumhunting.

Honestly I agree with firebringer. I don't think anyone is seriously scumhunting as of this post though.

205 by eagle does not resonate well with me.
Also I think I did explain why. It was bad logic on a person that was already under pressure.

Like question the wagon on Mario. Since I have scum read on Mario this is suspcious.

You've gotta be joking, mate. "You don't agree with my reads so you are suspicious?" That doesn't looks like good scumhunting to me

If fb isn't scum, and blood wasn't scum (which maybe we should assume if ranger is right) Poe says mm and ep are scum to me.

Okay....you have your vote on none of these people tho.
I like your entrance so far Extrapolated Eagle.

I don't (and by Eagles logic that makes you suspicious as a result.)

[Errantparabola]

a quick rundown
A substantial amount of it is gut but I'm making do with what I have.

1) ranger - strongest townread
2) Chaotic Neutrality - null-scum but not lynchworthy
3) Errantparabola
4) hi I'm yakko - town
5) eagle - i might be able to lynch this
6) BL0ODK1NG - Dead, assume the worst and say town
7) mariomaniac4 - weak town read
8) ika - might be able to lynch this
9) firebringer - might be able to lynch this

ISOing the lynchworthy people now. I see firebringer's wagon with some support so I might be able to get on that

[Errantparabola]

I'm extremely hesitant to call someone town for wanting to push activity into the game because I've seen scum do that before.
I'm also hesitant to call a lurker scum even in these circumstances.

[Errantparabola]

Well eagle didn't read setup so I'm gonna chalk that as town, good we are done

I don't see scum pointing this out.

VOTE: firebringer

[Errantparabola]

Hey eagle. Thanks for interacting with me.

Lhix's 72 did not seem like a town post to me because it was 1) completely useless and 2) something that scum could easily say to try and snag some town points. "I don't see how ranger could townread me" is something that town has no reason to say. Not a strong read by any means.

Mario's 90 I didn't read as sarcasm because he unvoted me later on.

Ranger's 116 i didn't agree with because of this right here:

I'm extremely hesitant to call someone town for wanting to push activity into the game because I've seen scum do that before.
I'm also hesitant to call a lurker scum even in these circumstances.

CN's 182 I disliked slightly because of the whole "disagreeing with my reads being alignment indicative" thing.
At least that's how I interpreted that post. CN is free to correct me if I'm wrong.

u got stronger reads from somewhere, m8? U see people scumhunting places giving you strong reads mate? Nothin happen. I have to base reads off something. And since theres no reason behind reads, I have to go by reads themselves.

Are you aware of what you saying right now?
You said "that person disagrees with my reads and that makes that person suspicious"
I said "that's faulty logic"
You said "well, do you have any better reads?"

So
1) worst deflection ever
and
2) yes, I believe my reads are better. gut is better than faulty logic.

[Errantparabola]

Alright. Two more problems.

a quick rundown
A substantial amount of it is gut but I'm making do with what I have.

Didn't you say you don't like to go on gut? And then get on other people for going on flimsy things?

But it's ok because there's nothing happening so you can last resort to gut. But no one else can.


Wut

might be able to lynch this

Also.... Why do you care if you're able to lynch this? Shouldn't it be "is this scum or not?"

I'm extremely hesitant to call someone town for wanting to push activity into the game because I've seen scum do that before.
I'm also hesitant to call a lurker scum even in these circumstances.

You can always "scum can force activity" or "town can be lurker"

Yah they can. They can do anything. You can talk yourself out of voting anyone you keep talking like that. Anyone can do anything for any reason. So I don't like this post. It's an excuse is what it is.

1. faulty logic does not equal gut
2. able to lynch this means that I can make someone eat rope and still sleep like a baby. So yeah, I'm saying that I think that the slot is scum.
3. "scum can do anything" is a bad argument. If scum can do something just as easily as town, then the action is not alignment indicative. Lurking is just as easy for town as it is for scum. Complaining about activity is just as easy for scum as it is for town.

[Errantparabola]

Fire and i were born in the same goddamn crib.
We're soul sisters.

Ill make a serious post when i have time.

[Errantparabola]

UNVOTE:

[Errantparabola]

Firebringer's progression of thought on page 11 seems pretty genuine.

Well eagle didn't read setup so I'm gonna chalk that as town, good we are done

I don't see scum pointing this out.

VOTE: firebringer

This doesn't match your vote.
Explanations are due.

Vote was poe.

You think this makes it likely that ep is town?

I am unsure tbh.
EP scum I don't think is this bad.

It is making me second guess myself.
Though I still think EP isn't scumhunting at all, but that doesn't = Scum.

UNVOTE: EP

Although I just feel relieved, this actually just makes me feel bad that i'm shit town. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to get better.

What is alignment indicative to you, then?

Some things that I find scum indicative
If someone's posts are designed to inhibit scumhunting from others or justify a lack of scumhunting from themself
If someone's posts are designed to vote someone without any repercussion
If someone's progression of thought doesn't run smoothly

Some things that I do not find scum indicative
People disagreeing with my reads

[Errantparabola]

VOTE: Chaotic
Is anyone willing to go with this?

[Errantparabola]

Marcos prob town after the extange

No, I'm pretty sure that's scum rage.

1) ranger - strongest townread

How'd I go from being "hard to read" to "strongest townread"? :S

2) Chaotic Neutrality - null-scum but not lynchworthy

How is, in this game, a nullscum read

not

lynchworthy?

1. Reads change.
2. Because there were people I thought were scummier. I changed my mind, and then I was fine with a CN lynch. I still am. VOTE: chaotic

And if you're still going on about how the words "I might be able to lynch this" make me opportunistic scum, I think I made it pretty clear about the exact meaning of my words making me firmly on the camp of "I definitely can lynch this." Meaning, you know, no opportunistic scum here.

That's the last I'm going to say on the subject, because I know how hard it can be to change your mind, ranger. No point in wasting time defending myself.

[Errantparabola]

This is a blatant excuse to fumble your reads all around with no rhyme or reason.

Have you tried scumhunting with this amount of content?

Oooh spooky.

Thanks for this enlightening comment. I really mean it.

But is it scummy?

Also are all your reads based on feely crap and semantics? Because it looks like you're targeting bad play and fluff posting. The more I read the more it looks like a rainbow carousel of scum feels where you're just accusing everyone and throwing dirt at around.

I don't see anything else scum indicative.

In the posts above this where you ran through the whole game, you barely mentioned fire, Ika is nowhere to be seen, and Ranger you have only negative things to say. Yet Ranger is your biggest town read, and Ika/Fire are your "most lynchable" targets. Not scummiest. Lynchable. I love the language here. You also have twice as many lynch-reads as there are scum, and three of your town reads are on dead/afk. I am 90% confident that you're completely making your reads up.

Oh, so this is you reiterating other people's thoughts in another way to make it seem like you're scumhunting, pushing once again a point that I've responded to and am going to cease responding to. Great.

I wish I'd played more attention to day end. Not just voting you because you're being really weird and I don't want to go back to all your games so I can meta you. I'm also scumreading you because that last minute change was scummy. As is most of the stuff you've said, imo. Too me it looks like you're saying weird stuff to contradict people's reads and then going back on what you said for really weird reasoning that basically just says you're the only person who's allowed to read people.

This is a top notch case.
Love it.
1) "I'm the only person who's allowed to read people" is such a misrep that it makes me want to scratch my eyes out. I would rather you give me some gut reads than reads based on some shit logic.
2) That last minute change was scummy? Are you serious? What about it was scummy? Please, do tell.

Ignore this if you think this is some bullshit that I'm just making up to seem townier, but post game, if I get lynched today, I would really appreciate it if people gave me some tips on playing my town game better. Because I feel like I'm a lot townier when I roll scum and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

[Errantparabola]

Also, I don't like how yakko was early on complaining about activity (which is basically useless) and then now doesn't do anything at all.

[Errantparabola]

You're "pretty sure" it's me and then vote for the mislynchable Errant after you see nobody is really scumreading me anymore.

Bluntly...sort-of, yes.

I'm not voting you because I don't think if I voted you, you'd get lynched.

I still think you're scum. Just scum who can't be lynched at this moment.

In contrast, I think Errant is scum...and there

is

interest there.

If I voted you and let my vote go to waste, then there's a very real chance another town player ends up lynched. (Firebringer ended up lynched with

two votes

. Two. TWO.)
If I vote Errant, no such concern.

I don't think Extrapolated Eagle is scum.
I also don't think Yakko is scum.
I'm pretty sure the game's an auto-win as a result...but it should still be done with as few town casualties as possible.
And Firebringer should not have been lynched.
If I was on Errant yesterday (my internet failed so I wasn't around, unfortunately--I'd probably have gotten prodded if the mod had noticed), then Firebringer might have been alive now.
So yes I'm voting Errant.

If this is scum ranger posting, then I need to reevaluate how I look at ranger as a player.

[Errantparabola]

How about you play the game, look for scum, stop complaining about lack of content, stop calling other people's logic crap, and realize that at this very moment by responding to me you create content. Now go. Push your reads. Create more content from other people. Find scum. Target them. Prove through your actions, not your complaining skills, that you're town.

Aside from the fact that I'm actively voting a scum read, interacting with that scum read, me calling your ACTUAL CRAP LOGIC crap, interacting with you, yeah, this post is pretty accurate.

[Errantparabola]

That last minute change was scummy? Are you serious? What about it was scummy? Please, do tell.

how about you answer this goddamn question? please.

[Errantparabola]

sarcasm off, sorry if you were in the process of answering it and I rudely interrupted you.

[Errantparabola]

I'm ok with ending the game now if that's cool with everyone. Errant's responses were still scummy, I gave him a chance to redeem himself and he didn't.

Since the game isn't going to end, take note of this statement and how terrible it is.