Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:36 pm

By who?

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:40 pm

In post 1612, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 1608, Titus wrote:
In post 1604, 3dicerolling wrote:Has it occured in more than one game?

Voteless player after D4 has never occurred as far as I know.

But you are wrong about my role? (This will of course, be apparent after my flip, but play along for now)

I see no evidence of that.

If Spiffeh is a reflexive roleblocker/jailkeepers and you're investigation immune, the setup balances fine.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm

In post 1613, CharlotteBebe wrote:just like in general?
would you as scum set out a claim thats easily disproved?

How is Spifeh's claim disproven ever?

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:42 pm

In post 1615, CharlotteBebe wrote:ank and i hadnt fullclaimed.
we could have had something which could mess with a fakeclaim like that.

you hadnt fullclaimed.

we could have no lynched until we proved whether spiff was telling the truth or not.

I had. You had enough with tracker.

No one would ever get a result.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:44 pm

In post 1618, CharlotteBebe wrote:theres no reason to fakeclaim something like that.
if hes not 1-shot ascetic, then hes 1-shot reflexive roleblocker at worst.

p-edit: if hes a multi-shot and he reflexively roleblocks ANYONE after the first time it happens then hes confirmed scum.
why would he do that to himself?
that would be fucking dumb.

And how would anyone know if FB is lynched?

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:50 pm

In post 1621, CharlotteBebe wrote:and again like.. isnt that still just like.. broken utility for scum?
why have a mafia doctor then? it doesnt make any sense :/

It functions the same way 3dice would. Investigation immunity.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:51 pm

In post 1624, 3dicerolling wrote:There has been one more thing that's been bugging me.

@Titus - IF delay does happen before roleblock, then my shot will hit Firebringer and we will either lose or win, correct?

Not if you're dead.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:51 pm

In post 1626, CharlotteBebe wrote:but like.
mafia doctor is literally useless then.
like why even have the role in the game.

i actively feel like pie/sakura wouldnt do that.

Mafia doctor protects Anti from 3dice.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:57 pm

In post 1631, CharlotteBebe wrote:what exactly do you perceive scumfire being like thats so different from here.

I don't know. Look at Pun Mafia. He just sends radar pings when scum.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:03 pm

In post 1633, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1632, Titus wrote:I don't know. Look at Pun Mafia. He just sends radar pings when scum.

I thought i looked so town in that.
So many thought I was town.

I was doing good ;(

There is a reason why I said gut.

Titus · Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:22 pm

Ok, so if MM is town, then FB won't die tonight.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:09 am

That's why I changed course MM. We lynch 3dice. You block FB or Spiffeh, whichever you scumread. If no kill, lynch who you blocked. If there's a kill, we take a deep look at things.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:20 am

That's rightm

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:21 am

Scum can't even no kill to frame FB because if they no kill, we lynch FB, then I global role block.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:23 am

By lynching you, that seems to trigger a town win.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:28 am

In post 1650, Spiffeh wrote:Stop and vote for Firebringer.

Why? If FB is scum, he'll be blocked.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:34 am

I'll unvote so you can do your hammer moves.

UNVOTE: 3dice

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:35 am

In post 1652, MarioManiac4 wrote:spiffeh's ascrtic was used by fb.
Out of the unconfirmed i RB who I please.

Block FB. He's certainly not ascetic.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:37 am

In post 1662, CharlotteBebe wrote:you have to vote for someone else.
3dice vote for me.
titus vote for spiffeh or some shit.

Doesn't your hammer ability just need players who are unvoted?

I'm voting 3dice or no one.

Sounds like you're trying to manipulate the lynch. :/

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:40 am

No it's simple. CB is being hard. We lynch 3dice and use MM to sort the scum.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:41 am

Ank does his hammer move on 3dice to confirm his hammer use.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 am

Well Ank?

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 am

Gork?

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:59 am

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:27 am

In post 1679, CharlotteBebe wrote:I bit the bullet and logged into the hydra.

Did Gork post my plan to confirm earlier? I can't remember if he did or not.

Yes. He planned on hammering 3dice when he got home from work.

I am inviting 3dice for that reason.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:27 am

Unvoting lol.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:22 am

So why can't you just hammer 3dice Ank?

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:40 am

VOTE: 3dice

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:42 am

In post 1705, CharlotteBebe wrote:How was Spiffeh's role confirmed?

-Ank

Firebringer claiming blocked strongly suggested it.

I recommended that action so if Spiffeh shoots during global block he'd be outed as scum.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:47 am

@CB, Do you agreed that scum is in FB Spiffeh and 3dice may be vig?

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:48 am

Or is it 3dice SK with that pool?

If this post is right, there's no reason not to lynch 3dice?

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:56 am

@CB, I am worried you're using this "confirm" thing to stall a lynch that needs to happen.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:58 am

So just hammer. I am a glorified treestump after today.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:02 am

Understood.

Titus · Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:04 am

You hammered...

You me MM and 3dice are voting 3dice.

Titus · Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:02 pm

VOTE: Spiffeh

It does nothing but that's the solution imo.

Titus · Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:21 am

Prod dodge not feeling well plus family obligations

Titus · Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:21 am

But yes the loss is permanent

Titus · Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:02 pm

Anyone got any questions?

FB confirmed by MM block. FB confirms my role. MM semi-confirmed by blocking 3dice and obvtown. CB is prob town.

Titus · Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:58 pm

In post 1758, CharlotteBebe wrote:
titus wrote:FB confirmed by MM block.
expardon me?

Mm was supposed to block Firebringer. I am assuming he did.

Titus · Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:53 pm

In post 1768, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 1760, CharlotteBebe wrote:im irked by spiff disappearing after kicking up a fuss over how obvtown he was d1 when he really wasnt obvtown at all.
that itle push felt forced earlygame and it especially felt wonky given how much he tried to draw attention to how his push on ank and i was intentionally forced and was for basically the same reason he was pushing itlepip afterwards.

i also feel like hes smart enough to know that just because hes confirmed ascetic it doesnt mean he couldnt have other abilities on top of that as scum.
so.
yay.

I posted 13 hours ago please relax.
Idk I read my ISO over on Day 1 and I thought I was being p. obvtown especially with pretending to have a protection role. Like I was completely open about how my itlepip vote was forced on Day 1 but I ultimately started to believe in it for reasons that I stated very clearly.
I ended up trying to consensus vote Suzune for your information!
I am aware I could have something else. That doesn't change the fact that MY ROLE DOESN'T WORK WITH SUZUNE'S. I am also reiterating it so Titus acknowledges that my role is confirmed too so just because FB happened to get on her good side by confirming her role it doesn't mean she should be trusting him unconditionally.

@MarioManiac4 who did you roleblock/did you roleblock anyone last night?
Why haven't you made this clear yet?

Why do you care what I think?

Titus · Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:27 pm

@FB, why didn't you vote Spiffeh?

Titus · Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:59 am

I still think it's Spiffeh.

Titus · Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:53 am

In post 1835, CharlotteBebe wrote:
In post 1833, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1826, CharlotteBebe wrote:Combine this with your hostility

Is hostility a scum tell now? I always considered more townie than scummy.

When it's specifically used to avoid contributing, then it's anti-town at best.

-Ank

You are tunneling. Scum FB votes Spiffeh here imo.

Titus · Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:15 am

In post 1839, CharlotteBebe wrote:make a meta case for fb being town.
if youre so confident in your ability to read him.

Every game where I have been town, I have read him accurately.

Titus · Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:14 pm

CB, no my gut isn't evidence to you. I get that. Gut is merely unexplained logic. So you wouldn't be an asshole if you ignored me.i don't trust in other's guts so I don't expect you to trust mine.

Titus · Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:34 pm

I love your new avatar FB. Vote Spiffeh.

Titus · Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:02 am

In post 1864, Spiffeh wrote:I mean Titus do you want to like
respond to the cases made against FB instead of blindly declaring him town?

I am bored.

Titus · Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:05 am

Nope. You have to die. Sorry. :-p

Titus · Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:14 am

In post 1872, CharlotteBebe wrote:
In post 1871, MarioManiac4 wrote:Suzune literally comes up about 3 times in FB's ISO and 29 times in Spiffeh's ISO
I don't know about y'all but I'm not so keen on that or FB's case but until Spiffeh responds I won't comment on it any further.

This is much less significant than the timing and 'type' of mentions they were.

-Ank

Agree.

Yawn.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:14 am

Setup spec = Titus town, look again.

Gg. 3dice lynch was bad but I needed it because I had to control the flip number. If we reached only two town voters with me, I would be confscum.

I knew FB was town and buddied to ensure he'd never vote me but I did it in a way that will ruin my town games BC I legit just gut read FB.

I kinda figured me being "bored" in lylo and not refreshing vca would draw suspicion but phew.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:16 am

It wasn't troll. I reached my win condition before town.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:17 am

In post 1996, Spiffeh wrote:Yeah I was confused why you weren't doing anything but proclaim FB town

It pissed me off actually

But I never considered you GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

Well when there were points I did discuss them. :-p just not well.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:21 am

There also was a right for wrong reasons case on me.

I asked Mala to talk to me. Mala was weak neighbor. Mala visited Titus. Titus is scum.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:24 am

In post 2000, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 1999, Titus wrote:There also was a right for wrong reasons case on me.

I asked Mala to talk to me. Mala was weak neighbor. Mala visited Titus. Titus is scum.

Actually, I shot her.

Yes. That's why it's right for wrong reasons.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:35 pm

In post 2007, Antihero wrote:awesome... we won. absolutely no thanks to me.

good carry, titus.

You were a help in planning the end game.

Oh totes cool with PT release.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:38 pm

2002 is why 3dice had to die. 5 alive wasn't mylo, unless I was town. I needed the global roleblock in case of shenanigans.

FB targeting Spiffeh left a way to frame Spiffeh if town did a no lynch at the wrong time.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:42 pm

Agreed.

I would be vindicated on my FB read but Spiffeh might have been a harder sale.

I would have engaged in a wafflefest with FB.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:47 pm

I was hoping to fish which type action I used from Rogue. Never happened.

Sorry for trying to murder you sweetie.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 2017, Sakura Hana wrote:How ironic, a Vig saving someone from death by shooting them, i literally laughed at the one scenario i predicted would happen back when creating the game when i was talking with pie about how funny it'd be if scum gets CPR doc on town and the vig targets that town.

It was funny since coincidentally I had a CPR doctor as town in my own game that managed to kill no one...

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:52 pm

In post 2022, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm sad Titus never used her global roleblock, Anti's strongman could be used during the global roleblock. Just imagine how the game would've went if you both had used that N1 or at least the strognman (Since strongman couldn't be delayed). I'm happy with this setup, it had a a bit of both me and pie in it, which turned out in quite an interesting setup.

I almost didn't use the one shot doc either. As scum I tend to hold one shot in case I get jammed. As town, I fire them early.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:43 pm

In post 2028, Maxous wrote:Yeah, I learned that lesson the hard way too, if you are unsure at all just clarify with the mod in the future instead of assuming somebody is confirmed town.

That being said: I believe Titus would of won anyway, her distancing from antihero was very effective.

The second AH made that hammer we looked at each other and knew in the PT. I rarely bus but we all knew.

Titus · Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:15 pm

I has tells Gork? :-p

Titus · Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:38 am

In post 2035, Gorkington wrote:

So what was your tell?

Titus · Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:57 am

You thought had a scumtell on me, but I obviously didn't do it here. So I want to know what it was. :-p

Titus · Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:31 pm

In post 2041, Gorkington wrote:pfft.
why would i tell you?
i think if anything i'll just be more likely to toss you in a nullpile than townpile from now on.
i let my earlygame feels and your stubbornness lategame override any thought of you being scum. will just need to be more vigilant from now on.

though im probably not playing anything for a while.
so you wont have to deal with my ridiculousness anytime soon.

:'(