⅋ - THE WICK WAS TURNED DOWN. THE FLUTE WAS BLOWN INTO.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:02 am

In post 297, Shiro wrote:We can PoE this easy.

if I'm not in that POE shiro...

I did what someone in druids should have done. and mage is dead. I did my part.

if town is going to betray me so be it. I will cry after my death. and maybe move on ...

vonflare · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:03 am

In post 300, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 297, Shiro wrote:We can PoE this easy.

if I'm not in that POE shiro...

I did what someone in druids should have done. and mage is dead. I did my part.

if town is going to betray me so be it. I will cry after my death. and maybe move on ...

no, you played it wrong.

You should have kept quiet. What was to stop the town from lynching you after the first druid is caught?

I'm just speeding up the inevitable end.

vonflare · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:04 am

tbh the game would be non-broken if we didn't get these lists.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:06 am

My play found the mage.

if I kept it quiet it was an easy mage game. 2 myslynches gg everyone else.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:07 am

there is a baic factor wrong in this setup. Its not about finding people to lynch , its about choosing people to lynch.

Shiro · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:11 am

In post 300, Frozen Angel wrote:if I'm not in that POE shiro...

Aristophanes · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:40 am

VOTE: VonFlare

FA, you can calm down.
I will not be voting you at any point in this game. You have my word on that.

Also, holy shit, that lynch was awesome!
I told you there was plenty of potential left in the game!

Though, the setup does needs a bit of a recalibration.
For now, will fulfill our Wincon and honour the agreement with FA, since that is the right thing to do.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:05 am

In post 306, Aristophanes wrote:Also, holy shit, that lynch was awesome!

But still that was my only shot in 10 people. I'm really happy I was right. at least town will win for that for sure

BBmolla · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:53 am

Either we no lynch over and over to get Druids or they can just claim now

Quilford · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:45 pm

In post 279, vonflare wrote:this setup is kind of broken tbh

In post 280, Sakura Hana wrote:VOTE: No Lynch

In post 279, vonflare wrote:this setup is kind of broken tbh

I somewhat agree, it's a really awkward setup.

In post 287, vonflare wrote:yeah im a druid. There's no point in participating anymore if this is how we're going to play.

Don't kill the confirmed scum and let the druid who is best at hiding win.

Setup ain't broken at all. We just happened to lynch our one key enemy using the one free lynch we had before MYLO. If we had mislynched, then Frozen Angel would definitely be our lynch today and you would have been in with a chance. Frankly, your best shot at winning yesterday was to try to secure a mislynch but your play was basically nonexistant. You made six posts over a total of six days. I have very little sympathy.

VOTE: vonflare

BBmolla · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:49 pm

nah it is pretty broken

Sakura Hana · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:53 pm

In post 310, BBmolla wrote:nah it is pretty broken

Quilford · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:57 pm

That's not actually an argument (:

I feel like this is how Bob intended the setup to turn out? Broken is like in Medical Mafia or Hard Boiled or whatever where it turns out Town doesn't actually need any skill to win because they can just use the PRs to kneecap the scum, which obviously runs counter to the designer's intentions. There is no auto-win strategy for this setup on Day 1. Town has to lynch the Mage and it just so happened they played poorly so we were able to. Doesn't make it broken.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:59 pm

If your setup relies on a single role for it to not be broken, then your setup is still broken.
Anyway all this setup discussion should be saved for post game, it'd make our lives easier if the last druid claimed or gave up or something.

Quilford · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:01 pm

Breaking strategy on the Wiki.

Quilford · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:12 pm

In post 313, Sakura Hana wrote:If your setup relies on a single role for it to not be broken, then your setup is still broken.

If you want to use this as your definition of 'broken', fine. Just be aware that all games with just one scum count as broken under it.

Quilford · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:19 pm

Anyway this is not to say that I really enjoyed the setup or think it can't be improved, just that calling it 'broken' is not accurate.

pistachi0n · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:26 pm

Why are we lynching vonflare? We know we have to lynch two druids, the last one leaves, and then we win. We have two claimed druids. Seems like an obvious solution.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:44 pm

pistachi0n, BBMolla is not a druid, he lied when he claimed to draw out scum. vonflare claimed druid.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:49 pm

also I agree that the other druid should probably just claim if we're not gonna lynch FA, I anticipate losing interest in this very rapidly if it goes on for 7 no-lynches and 7 RL day night phases. I still think we could go for some lynches to keep it fun and work on scumhunting, but I forgot Shiro's right that Mage could still win so we absolutely have to stop at 5.

optimal play is just to lynch FA tomorrow, I was pocketing that plan (90) for when we flipped the first druid. But I guess people are morally opposed to that?

vonflare · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:06 pm

I think sakura hana's definition of 'broken' is accurate. If the mage is lynched before 2 druids are lynched, it becomes broken.
Town auto-wins (assuming they don't flake) and they basically play kingmaker on which druid wins.

vonflare · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:07 pm

kingmaker scenarios aren't fun for anyone

Not_Mafia · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:08 pm

VOTE: Vonflare

pistachi0n · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:30 pm

VOTE: vonflare

Frozen Angel · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:28 pm

In post 319, GuiltyLion wrote:optimal play is just to lynch FA tomorrow, I was pocketing that plan (90) for when we flipped the first druid. But I guess people are morally opposed to that?