Open 616: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

Sharky5x · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:43 am

I'm prepared to hammer AFTER snarky comes back and answers for himself.

Titus · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:05 pm

In post 849, Sharky5x wrote:That isn't a hammer. I unvoted .3.

Shouldn't have said anything. Valuable reaction lost.

Armageddon · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:16 am

Vote Count Day 3.1

Players alive: 8

Players needed to lynch: 5

Not_Mafia

- 4 - itlepip, lilith2013, Titus, My Other Head Is Scum - (L-1)

Titus

- 1 - Not_Mafia - (L-4)

Players not voting: Sharky5x, SnarkySnowman, The_Jester

Mod notes:
The_Jester is V/LA

Deadline for Day Three: (expired on 2015-12-21 21:43:00)

Sharky5x · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:11 am

Well doesn't look like Not_Mafia OR Snarky are coming back. -m-

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:59 am

I'm limited access till Thursday (tomorrow, mobile only atm). And Sharky has significantly more content than not mafia which is why I can have a stronger read. Tell me, how was diamond more conf scum than nm yesterday?

lilith2013 · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:10 am

Who is that question directed to?

Sharky5x · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:07 am

From the context of the post it kinda seems like he's asking me, but that question can't be for me.

Sharky5x · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:09 am

Oh, and saying that I have posted more makes me more scummy than confirmed scum Not_Mafia is complete crap.

Could you explain your MOHIS and itlepip reads now, please?

itlepip · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:20 am

In post 834, lilith2013 wrote:Sure. I'll talk mostly in terms of scum teams, since I don't have any super solid townreads.

NM is basically confscum.
Snarky has been pinging me pretty hard. He defended Diamond, saying he was town, then said he didn't completely believe the doctor claim. I'd like to know why he thought Diamond might fakeclaim. Also, he kept defending Diamond but never tried to redirect town onto a new wagon who he thought was scum.
Jester was pinging me D1 and I think I shouldn't have backed off that read. He's been hardcore lurking. I would put Jester and NM on opposite teams, I think.
MOHIS: at first I got good vibes, seemed like they were really making an effort to contribute; has since basically disappeared.

So my favored combinations of scum atm are NM/Snarky/Jester and NM/Snarky/MOHIS. If the former, I would think Snarky/Jester are fire and NM is ice. If the latter, I think MOHIS/Snarky are fire. I could also see itle/Sharky as fire scum. For players who scumread each other for half the game, you guys sure are on a lot of wagons together.

uhh, Lilith NM is 90% fire scum. You don't counterclaim, especially a support role, this early in the game as the sole survivor.

In post 838, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't CC doctor

lol

In post 847, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:We really should have lynched Not Mafia yesterday, and both Titus and Not Mafia look horrible for that lynch.
But Not Mafia looks slightly worse.

VOTE: Not Mafia

Didn't check votes but I think thats hammer.

-Fire

okay, after this post I am ready to hear a MOHIS case.

In post 854, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm limited access till Thursday (tomorrow, mobile only atm). And Sharky has significantly more content than not mafia which is why I can have a stronger read. Tell me, how was diamond more conf scum than nm yesterday?

The scumminess in whiteknighting isn't that you are townreading a player that is being wagoned, it is that scum tries to play off their correct read for town points. this is a classic example of a scum reaction after whiteknighting.

In post 857, Sharky5x wrote:Oh, and saying that I have posted more makes me more scummy than confirmed scum Not_Mafia is complete crap.

snarky is probably the other fire mafia based on this stuff with Not today.

lilith2013 · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:21 am

Welp. This is my first time playing with more than one scum faction. I'll need to look over my list again then.

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:49 am

Itlepip, you can read it whatever way you like. That makes sense in a game with one scum faction, where if I were scum I'd know for a fact he were town. But consider reading it otherwise:

I'm town thinking he's town.
I'm ice scum, and I think he's town.
I'm fire scum thinking he's town.

In all of those cases, I can't know for certain diamond is town.

I'm gonna get some quotes and shit to support my reads when I get home to my pc on thurs.

itlepip · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:52 am

In post 860, SnarkySnowman wrote:Itlepip, you can read it whatever way you like. That makes sense in a game with one scum faction, where if I were scum I'd know for a fact he were town. But consider reading it otherwise:

I'm town thinking he's town.
I'm ice scum, and I think he's town.
I'm fire scum thinking he's town.

In all of those cases, I can't know for certain diamond is town.

I'm gonna get some quotes and shit to support my reads when I get home to my pc on thurs.

If you are fire you would know that NM was counterclaiming. Any doctor would counterclaim at that point to catch two scum, so you can assume that Diamond is doctor. Try again please.

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:15 pm

I'm sorry could you say that again???

itlepip · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:18 pm

In post 862, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'm sorry could you say that again???

You are fire scum and you knew diamond was town.

lilith2013 · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:21 pm

Could you explain why he's fire and not ice? Who do you think ice is?

itlepip · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:25 pm

In post 864, lilith2013 wrote:Could you explain why he's fire and not ice? Who do you think ice is?

Jester, MOHIS or sharky are my top picks as long as NM does flip fire. I don't see him flipping ice but if he does all my reads right now are worthless. Snarky is probably his partner because of his whiteknighting yesterday. If he was ice he wouldn't know that NM was the fake claim, but as fire he would.

lilith2013 · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:12 pm

Thanks itle.

In post 854, SnarkySnowman wrote: And Sharky has significantly more content than not mafia which is why I can have a stronger read. Tell me, how was diamond more conf scum than nm yesterday?

In post 855, lilith2013 wrote:Who is that question directed to?

Still wondering who the question is directed to.

And how is NM not confscum for you after CCing a flipped doctor??? Like how can you say that anyone else is more confirmed than that.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:19 pm

I didn't CC Doctor

itlepip · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:22 pm

In post 867, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't CC Doctor

Look he is trying to give Snarky something to go off of. I think this plan for scum sucks but if scum is going to run with it we know that snarky is the other fire mafia.

lilith2013 · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 842, Sharky5x wrote:IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:
In post 731, DiamondSentinel wrote:Fine. You've set this up yourself...

I'm the doctor. I healed someone (not revealing) last night, thus the comment.
In post 732, Not_Mafia wrote:Nope

VOTE: DiamondSentinel
In post 740, Not_Mafia wrote:lillith is not ice scum
In post 742, Titus wrote:
In post 740, Not_Mafia wrote:lillith is not ice scum

It's like you read my role PM.
we should heal each other tonight.

You don't need to cover for me though.
In post 750, Not_Mafia wrote:I may or may not have claimed doctor

In post 838, Not_Mafia wrote:I didn't CC doctor

In post 839, Sharky5x wrote:Pedit: What kind of VT says "I may or may not have claimed doctor" while we are lynching someone that claims doctor?

In post 840, Not_Mafia wrote:Titus was hinting doctor, I was covering for her

In post 845, Titus wrote:Nah, I didn't hint doctor until you did NM.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:24 pm

lilith2013 · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:25 pm

So explain again how that wasn't a counterclaim

Because Titus said nothing about being doctor until after you had softclaimed

Not_Mafia · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:26 pm

I was covering for Titus

lilith2013 · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:27 pm

Titus. Did. Not. Claim. Until. After. You. Had. Already. Softclaimed.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:28 pm

That's not proper grammer.