Blitz 9: KATSUKI'S MADNESS PREQUEL-DICE OF FATE-GAME OVER

[Iecerint]

I'm not going to argue with you about my meta any further than this iece but you haven't played with me in awhile and you know nothing about it. If you looked at any of my scum games in the last year you would see the distinction immediately

Gosh matty so testy.

[Syryana]

See, I never feel that confident as town, so that makes me pretty nervous!

I basically only do what you are doing when I am SCUM providing ORDER to the FRIGHTENED MASSES.

Not saying this is externally valid to you but that is just what I am comparing it to in my head.

Difference in playstyle I guess. I'm way more nervous as scum. For your reference, 511

[Iecerint]

I believe you -- I am just providing information about how I personally interpret things.

thx for keeping me from having to read nacho tho i appreciate it.

[MattP]

I'm not going to argue with you about my meta any further than this iece but you haven't played with me in awhile and you know nothing about it. If you looked at any of my scum games in the last year you would see the distinction immediately

Gosh matty so testy.

(:

[Spiffeh]

Iecerint who is scum?

I think the best thing to do right now is to vet LLD's claim, prevent her from backing out when/if it doesn't pan out, or give her opportunities to recant.

If she doesn't recant, we are lynching from the 5 on Starbuck's wagon, because presuming 3 scum it's 40% chance vs. 14% chance (not counting self-modifiers and giving Starbuck benefit of the doubt -- that still only makes it 40% vs. 20% in the most extreme case).

All things being as I expect them to be, I think that you are the most likely scum right now, because I think that if I were in your position and were enjoying a 50% scum-finding rate (2 out of 4 excepting you), I would be all the fuck over that instead of whatever it is you're doing right now.

This seems like a town reaction to LLD's claim, especially the last paragraph.

But now that LLD has recanted it who is scum?

[Iecerint]

Why are you so fixated on the idea that I secretly know who the scum is and am simply opting not to share it with you?

[Iecerint]

It is highly triggersome.

This is a highly triggersome game.

[Spiffeh]

Because has been parked all day and I want to see where your head is at?

[Iecerint]

Well, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, maybe you?

I don't think it's LLD, Matt, or mollie. I'm inclined to think it's not Syry or Nacho. It could be Starbuck. It could be daveywavey. I have secret biases re: daveywavey tho.

[Nachomamma8]

Are you not like suspicious of me or anything

not really.
did i give off those sorts of vibes?
because i enjoy you as a friend and all, but i don't really see you like that, you know?

[Ythan]

Yes that role is certainly called censor isn't it.

Absolutely.

Spelt exactly how it says in my role PM.

Glad you're paying attention Ythan, your posts had me concerned!

This is you making out in response to a simple observation. That pleases me, in a way that will not please you.

lol lashing out

[Ythan]

That lld wall looks bad but I'm skipping the rest on my phone.

Should have skipped it on my laptop too.

[Ythan]

Then I would like her to clearly recant.

My comment re: Ythan wasn't making that obvious?

To be clear, I was expressing my opinion that Starbuck's wagon is disgusting and the way it grew was bad in a very very trolly way, because I'm getting fun results and polarizing reads from it, which is nice.

Surprise fuckin surprise.

[Iecerint]

Ythan is asking the tough questions.

[Iecerint]

Guys I literally just realized that this was a Blitz game.

lol.

[Ythan]

Time to get blitzed.

[Iecerint]

Man I would prefer to temporize.

VOTE: Vote: Spiffeh

While I temporize. Mainly about whether to switch to Starbuck. Because her wagon is already so busty.

[Nachomamma8]

I think this is a bullshit reason to lynch me.

Why?

I'm not trying to use her as a shield. Don't put words in my mouth. I think it would be really shitty of you guys, for those who are town with me, to put us in danger of losing two townies. I think you just came up with a terrible fucking excuse to lynch me, and I don't believe for a second that Syryana can save mollie.

And if so, that would defeat the purpose of lovers.

"Using her as a shield" is a phrase that sounds all nice in rhetoric, but I don't think it's at all an inaccurate description for your response to people suspecting you. It makes zero sense for Syryana to fake being able to save mollie; if he's lying, he gets you and mollie lynched, yes, then they get a nightkill, but he gets lynched tomorrow and we don't lose a mislynch. There is not a person in the game who won't lynch him if mollie dies when you do.

That's blatantly untrue. I *NEVER* said that I suspected Spiffeh.

I didn't say you suspected him, although if I don't think that statement is "blatantly untrue". I said that because:

This isn't the town Spiffeh that I've seen in the past however many games.

I do feel that Spiffeh is really fucking weird this game with how much he's calling for my death. I've played quite a bit with Spiffeh over the past month or so of being back. In other situations, I felt like I could talk with him and have a conversation. Here it's just straight out abrasive (in a game sense) with no chance of him even reconsidering his stance.

I don't understand why you're acting like I'm doing some terrible horrible thing by so much as calling you scum. I don't like how you're shutting me out because my reasoning is terrible and acting like what I'm saying is lies and heresy even when it very clearly isn't. I'm having trouble following a train of thought where you believe Syryana is lying about being able to save mollie and somehow this is an obvious place where scum lie?

I don't think my approach here is ridiculous or unreasonable and if you're town, your view of your own play this game is skewed in an incomprehensible way. I don't understand or come close to understanding your Spiffeh versus Syryana reads, I hate the way you automatically remind everyone that you're a lover whenever someone talks about lynching you, and I hate your response to this push. I don't think you are town.

[MattP]

There's too many stupid roles in this game

Is there even any room for non stupid roles?

[Nachomamma8]

if starbuck flips scum i'm going to post 20 ducks tomorrow and i want you to know that every one of those ducks are saying "ythan, you let me down"

And when I don't?

i'll post five cute ducks and i'll pretend they're all my father who left me because i wasn't good enough

[Nachomamma8]

There's too many stupid roles in this game

Is there even any room for non stupid roles?

the drunk townie role wasn't that stupid!

[Ythan]

My role isn't stupid.

[Nachomamma8]

but no i don't really think so

[MattP]

I bet my role is less stupid than urs

[Nachomamma8]

So why should I resign myself to this lynch when my top scum read is saying that he'll save my lover?

no one said you should resign yourself to a lynch
but when your top scum read claims confirmable information, it's usually polite to at least consider the possibility he is telling the truth/determine what he has to gain from lying