Blitz 13 - Bad Omens (Judgment)

Ether · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:27 am

Day 1, Votecount 12

2 Anxiety Attack (Wisdom, Ranger)
2 hi im Yakko (OceanWind, MattP)
2 LucianRoy (hi im Yakko, pisskop)
1 OceanWind (LucianRoy)
1 pisskop (Usted)
1 Wisdom (Anxiety Attack)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2015-12-16 14:00:00), on Wednesday, December 16 at 2:00 pm EST.

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:29 am

Hi matt, anything you would like to talk about?

pedit: we were but we can move on i want to work with you more

@wis: well thats the starting problem, i know you also dont meta so me making the argument about it seem moot point to begin with don't you agree?

more on point though, do you have any reads on yakko/ranger or anythign based on what we have said?

pedit2: why is lucian lower then ranger? like i dont get the reason for "vote is bad so scum" while ranger is having very little as well and your exusing it as "i cant read her"

Wisdom · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:31 am

Where is lucian lower than ranger? I don't remember giving a sorted readlist?

Wisdom · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:32 am

oh nvm, you weren't talking to me

Wisdom · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:33 am

Yakko I still don't know why you're scumreading Lucian. Help me.

OceanWind · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:34 am

In post 216, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 215, Wisdom wrote:
In post 204, hi im Yakko wrote:@ocean I can't read your mind. What are you trying to say in 202?

In 104 you asked why people are townreading pisskop, and in 109 you disagreed that pisskop's done things indicate alignment. How do you now agree with Anxiety's pisskop townread?

I decided he was town. The PL comment ocean made was a stupid reason to town read pisskop. I just jept that in the back of mind. When I got back to this game again and read (skimmed) through it pisskop asking someone about me made me think that was very town of him.

Anxiety Attack townread Pisskop for the same reason (the PL comment). You never inquired about it.

MattP · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:35 am

In post 199, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 169, Ranger wrote:Early signs indicate Anxiety Attack and Usted are more likely scum than other players.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack.

This is a scum post as ustes is clearly noob town.

^very weird.

In post 216, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 215, Wisdom wrote:
In post 204, hi im Yakko wrote:@ocean I can't read your mind. What are you trying to say in 202?

In 104 you asked why people are townreading pisskop, and in 109 you disagreed that pisskop's done things indicate alignment. How do you now agree with Anxiety's pisskop townread?

I decided he was town. The PL comment ocean made was a stupid reason to town read pisskop. I just jept that in the back of mind. When I got back to this game again and read (skimmed) through it pisskop asking someone about me made me think that was very town of him.

In post 222, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 217, Wisdom wrote:Are you scumreading anyone? Your vote is on Lucian yet I don't see any signs of you scumreading him.

Do I think lucian is scum? Yes.

Is your question why am I not pushing or trying to get him lynched? Mostly because I'm tired and exhausted. Why am I scum reading him? Well I was reading through the thread and got it into my head that lucian would notnonly be a good vote but a very decent vote as he was probably scum.

I don't like this tautological reasoning, if it's gut whatever but I feel like Yakko goes out of his way to overexplain to legitimize the discrepancy.

In post 266, hi im Yakko wrote:Hmmmmm I'd lynch anxiety over wisdom I think.

I think this is the worst part. He then goes on to say he thinks both wisdom and anxiety are town, so why wouldn't he say that instead of setting up a preference for voting? It's so opportunistic, it looks like he's getting ready to jump onto anxiety if wisdom's push is successful. AND:

In post 270, hi im Yakko wrote:He comes off townier than you ika hmmm idk. I think I would hate myself for being so wrong and either I would play better or retrench and start questioning my existence. Wisdom makes some clever points.

When Anxiety pushes Yakko about the preference here's Yakko's weak response ^

In post 273, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 272, Anxiety Attack wrote:
In post 270, hi im Yakko wrote:He comes off townier than you ika hmmm idk. I think I would hate myself for being so wrong and either I would play better or retrench and start questioning my existence. Wisdom makes some clever points.

What points has he made? Are you saying we are having a TvT or something else cus thats what im reading what your saying it as

If it came down to the wire between you and he. I would lynch you. Am I readingnyou both as town rn? Technically yes. The points he made are mostly his responses to you. I found myself to have been nodding to them.

And then when Anxiety asks Yakko to list the points, Yakko can't come up with anything and admits to a townread on Anxiety.

I don't believe Yakko's play at all, it's super dissonant and lacks any sort of depth or reasoning

OceanWind · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:36 am

In post 108, Anxiety Attack wrote:I can see pisskop town based on the PL talk alone. I don't see scum doing that right out of the gate. Plus, most of the rest of his posts remind me of his towngame so far.

~SW

hi im Yakko · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:37 am

You're supposed to read my mind.

what I meant was irrational vote. As it provides no logic behind it. Or do you disagree? You have ocean as town I presume.

It's not an excuse I can't read her. I can't suddenly start being able to read her simply because you insist on it.

hi im Yakko · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:37 am

@mattp isn't that a case for why I'm town?

MattP · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:39 am

In post 309, hi im Yakko wrote:@mattp isn't that a case for why I'm town?

Uhh?

MattP · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:39 am

I think that might be the strangest thing anyone has ever said to me in a game!

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:41 am

In post 303, Wisdom wrote:oh nvm, you weren't talking to me

Well the first pedit kinda was. i was asking your thoughs on ranger/yakko

while you are kinda giving comments towards yakko now, i am taking it you have him as null?

pedits: logic =/= town. sw and i are jsut as irrational at time yet you are claling us town for it so IDGT? also you are not even trying to sort her is the thing im trying to point out. why are you not engadging or trying to pressure her or anything to sor the read

hi im Yakko · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:42 am

Yeah think about it. Would scum be as disorganized as me? Dissonance is just a fancy word for contradictory. My reads have been changing is all.

Your last point however is demonstrably fallacious. Simply because I don't make the effort to go digging does not make me scum.

@someone lucian has been going for easy votes from what I recall and jist trying to seem towny. Thats what he read like to me

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:44 am

like its one thing to say "they are unreadable" and you poke at them and try to sort them but your not doign any of that and its concerning to me

Wisdom · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:44 am

In post 312, Anxiety Attack wrote:while you are kinda giving comments towards yakko now, i am taking it you have him as null?

Yes, though the points being made against him are decent.

hi im Yakko · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:45 am

In post 312, Anxiety Attack wrote:
In post 303, Wisdom wrote:oh nvm, you weren't talking to me

Well the first pedit kinda was. i was asking your thoughs on ranger/yakko

while you are kinda giving comments towards yakko now, i am taking it you have him as null?

pedits: logic =/= town. sw and i are jsut as irrational at time yet you are claling us town for it so IDGT? also you are not even trying to sort her is the thing im trying to point out. why are you not engadging or trying to pressure her or anything to sor the read

Why? You guys are right here. I can see a decent argument when I read it. Have you made one on her?

@wisdom I havent slept yet in case you're wondering.

Wisdom · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:45 am

In post 313, hi im Yakko wrote:@someone lucian has been going for easy votes from what I recall and jist trying to seem towny. Thats what he read like to me

Which votes were easy?

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:46 am

You dont seem disorganize is my problem. quote yourself where you are "disorganized" cus i see a lot of fence sitty

pedit: ok, nothign on ranger either i take it?

pedit2: an argument on scum her? i have said it sevral times

Wisdom · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:48 am

Ranger is more on the town side actually; that RVS approach and insisting on it felt a little weird to lead with as scum. But I don't know her so not going to dwell on that.

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:49 am

or kinda a better argument for you yakko, if they are unreadbale why do you not pressure them for lynch or give reachouts to others and ask?

pedit: fair enough

hi im Yakko · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:49 am

@anxiety attack I'm not seeing the case in your iso

hi im Yakko · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:50 am

In post 318, Anxiety Attack wrote:You dont seem disorganize is my problem. quote yourself where you are "disorganized" cus i see a lot of fence sitty

pedit: ok, nothign on ranger either i take it?

pedit2: an argument on scum her? i have said it sevral times

If you say I'm being fencesitty I'm probably being fencesitty. Although if I may ask what am I being fencesitty about?

Disorganized? Mattp made a decent town case on me.

Anxiety Attack · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:52 am

In post 321, hi im Yakko wrote:@anxiety attack I'm not seeing the case in your iso

your not reading the quick one liner i have been saying all along. i dont do elaborate cases

In post 322, hi im Yakko wrote:
In post 318, Anxiety Attack wrote:You dont seem disorganize is my problem. quote yourself where you are "disorganized" cus i see a lot of fence sitty

pedit: ok, nothign on ranger either i take it?

pedit2: an argument on scum her? i have said it sevral times

If you say I'm being fencesitty I'm probably being fencesitty. Although if I may ask what am I being fencesitty about?

Disorganized? Mattp made a decent town case on me.

mattp is voting you right now sooooo?

Wisdom · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:53 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yakko