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Post Post #4775 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:47 pm

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Doesn't mean it's Town.

I've already explained why it's easily faked. You can draw whatever conclusions you want from VCA because you can interpret it how you want to suit your case.

Which I've already said. Repeatedly.
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Post Post #4776 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:48 pm

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It's the same argument for meta being bad - stuff can be faked.
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Post Post #4777 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:54 pm

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How would she "fake" VCA?

My point is...like you are calling Titus scum b/c she used VCA and yet she always does and I'm trying to understand why you specifically think its scummy. Like she does it all the time so...what makes this VCA "scummier" than any other time?
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Post Post #4778 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:56 pm

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Have you not read the thread?
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Post Post #4779 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:00 pm

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In post 4480, Nexus wrote:
In post 4478, Porochaz wrote:
Official Vote Count


Titus
(3):
Nexus, Davsto, xRECKONERx

notscience
(2):
scotmany12, pirate mollie

xRECKONERx
(1):
Starbuck

Davsto
(1): Titus

Not Voting
(2):
notscience, Flameaxe


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.


BY JOVE I'VE CRACKED IT.

In post 4479, Nexus wrote:
In post 4468, Titus wrote:@Dave, They don't sit on a wagon
by themselves
they need a townbeard. Me.

I know how scum act.

Scum is in Nexus You and Reck.
Long shots Starbuck and scotmany.

Everyone else is conftown.


VCA ANALYSIS TIME:

WOULD ALL THREE PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK OF SCUM ACTUALLY BE ON YOUR WAGON?

VOTE NOW:

YES

NO

In post 4462, Nexus wrote:I've already explained my issues with your VCA. I cannot be bothered to interact with you anymore.

In post 4364, Nexus wrote:You can manipulate it any way you want to suit what you want. I could say that mollie was on all three scum lynches, therefore was turbo bussing to ride the town cred (possible). I could also say that BBM was the mislynch wagon, and only joined the Espe wagon when he fucked up his fakeclaim, therefore he's scum.

In post 4363, Nexus wrote:No, I understand that it's a VCA, but what's the point?

Most players left are experienced enough to know that VCAs happen, and so would do their best to buck the trends and not actually fall into the trap. It's a stupid waste of time.

In post 4335, Nexus wrote:
In post 4330, Davsto wrote:Fuck

@mod put that in a spoiler tag, would you kindly?


Anyway, I think I got it done, think I fixed all the little glitches (changes in how players were referred to, gdi). Only took 20 mins. Much better than manual, eh?


So what do we learn from thsi shit?


The VCA itself is fine. You colour in the names in pretty colours ezpz.

The conclusions you draw are entirely up to you, however.

Example:

Player 1 (3-LYNCHED) - Player 2, Player 3, Player 5
Player 5 (2) - Player 1, Player 4

We know Player 1 flipped town.

I know that I'm Player 4, and therefore Town.

So - conclusions that could be drawn:

Player 5 is scum because Player 1's wagon was a counterwagon, and he hammered it. Fine.
Player 2 is scum because they started the counterwagon
Player 3 is scum because they put Player 1 at L-1 for no real reason
Player 4 is scum because they stayed off the wagon since they knew it was a mislynch.

ALL OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE.

Player 4 has been on two mislynches, and three scum lynches - turbo bussing or unlucky town?

Player 2 has been on no lynches except for the counter wagon - lurking scum or bad town?

Player 3 has been the second vote on every single major wagon - opportunistic scum, or ok town?

The conclusions drawn can entirely suit your argument. If I want to get Player 4 lynched - I say they're turbo bussing and give the three scum lynches as evidence. If I want to get Player 2 lynched, I say they're lurking scum. Etc. etc.
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Post Post #4780 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:01 pm

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There's also a separate issue about Davsto doing the VCA in an attempt to ingratiate himself with Titus, but that's something for another argument.
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Post Post #4781 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:02 pm

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Now I'm going to work.

I want to see what reck and scot feel about stuff.
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Post Post #4782 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:36 am

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real talk tho, are there 1 or 2 scum left
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Post Post #4783 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:38 am

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guys i have literally no fucking idea
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Post Post #4784 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:53 am

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D1 Lynch wrote:
MattP
- 9 -
Marquis
,
catboi
,
spiffeh
, Bins, scotmany,
notscience
,
CDB
,
Papa Zito
,
pirate mollie
,
MattP

mykonian
- 3 - xRECKONERx,
Espeonage
,
curiouskarmadog

notscience
- 3 - Nexus, Davsto,
Flameaxe

pirate mollie
- 2 -
Starbuck
,
mykonian

D2 Lynch wrote:
Espeonage
(9): Davsto,
Papa Zito
,
Starbuck
, scotmany12, xRECKONERx,
catboi
,
pirate mollie
,
mykonian
,
Flameaxe

CDB
(3):
notscience
,
spiffeh
,
curiouskarmadog

scotmany12
(1):
CDB

Starbuck
(1):
Espeonage

Davsto
(1): Bins

Not Voting (1): Nexus

D3 Lynch wrote:
KMD
(7):
notscience
,
spiffeh
, Davsto,
curiouskarmadog
, xRECKONERx,
pirate mollie
,
Starbuck

notscience
(2): scotmany12,
Flameaxe

Nexus
(1): Bins
xRECKONERx
(1):
mykonian

Bins
(1): Nexus

Not Voting (2):
KMD

D4 Lynch wrote:
mykonian
(5):
notscience
, xRECKONERx,
Starbuck
,
pirate mollie
,
Flameaxe
,
mykonian

Bins
(3): scotmany12, Davsto, Nexus
Starbuck
(1):
curiouskarmadog


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Post Post #4785 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:53 am

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sweet, all I've gleaned is that I'm town
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Post Post #4786 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:54 am

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I FEEL LIKE Espeonage was probably bussed. Which would mean Davsto or scot.
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Post Post #4787 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:17 am

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Don't forget that Espe fucked up his claim so doesn't necessarily mean he was bussed - i would've agreed with you if the last three votes were different.
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Post Post #4788 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:49 am

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Ugh I just don't know that I see Davsto as scum going "okay, I'm already getting heat, let me start a wagon on my buddy"
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Post Post #4789 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:25 am

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Are you definitely ruling out an SK?
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Post Post #4790 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:24 am

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Reck, are you town reading Nexus, if so why?
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Post Post #4791 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:26 am

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Uhhhh not really, no

I'm not townreading anyone atm which is whyt his is balls
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Post Post #4792 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:36 am

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uh. hello?
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Post Post #4793 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:00 am

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I really read Davsto as scum earlier but now I'm paranoid that I fell for AtE.
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Post Post #4794 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:00 am

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*read Davsto as town
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Post Post #4795 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:52 am

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Do you think there is a SK, reck? Cause I highly doubt dav is mafia.
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Post Post #4796 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:57 am

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Has everyone claimed yet? Because I'm starting to get worried about the lack of a claimed source of the extra kills.
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Post Post #4797 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:07 pm

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everyone has claimed but Rek
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Post Post #4798 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:39 pm

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im a vt
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im planning to propose to my girlfriend in paris or some shit
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Post Post #4799 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:14 pm

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