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Post Post #4850 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:25 am

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Sorry Scot. You deserved the win.

Sorry for being a bad player whilst my team imploded. I feel I played ok after about day 4.
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Post Post #4851 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:31 am

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Post Post #4852 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:32 am

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Omg YESSSS

Good save Nexus. This game wasn't going well.

I agree Scot played amazing and deserved it. I know the feeling being SK, getting that close, and then getting lynched out of nowhere. Happened to me earlier this year. It's shitty.
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Post Post #4853 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:33 am

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Ugh, that was heartbreaking. Should've listened to my gut instead of second guessing myself. Things went completely off the rails after the first three scum lynches.
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Post Post #4854 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:34 am

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Post Post #4855 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:34 am

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reck wtf were you doing this game
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Post Post #4856 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:36 am

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I think the Nero Cain and pisskop lynches were p. bad but whatcha gonna do
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Post Post #4857 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:36 am

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scum pt

scum pt???

awesome play from scot and nexus btw! i really thought you were both town after death until the last day
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Post Post #4858 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:37 am

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In post 4855, Papa Zito wrote:reck wtf were you doing this game

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Scot, A+ game.
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Post Post #4859 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:37 am

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In post 1301, Marquis wrote:
In post 1299, Marquis wrote:
In post 1292, Spiffeh wrote:Marquis can you refresh my memory on who your town reads are again?


thanks for asking actually, it's been a while and this reminded me that i do have the time to at the very least sort a minimal-detail readslist

DEFINITELY TOWN

17. marquis
10. notscience
11. curiouskarmadog

TOWN

15. spiffeh
12. catboi

TOWN FOR TODAY (WON'T BOTHER CONSIDERING LYNCHING, BARRING MAJOR GAMESTATE THINGS)

4. pirate mollie
7. Davsto - literally just because fuck yall i'm not dealing with the whole potential "lynch what we don't understand" thing that might be going through the subconscious of some town players
13. Papa Zito
14. Starbuck -
18. Bins

NOT SURE, OR EFFECTIVELY NULL

1. Flameaxe - non-alignment indicative, but distracting, dickishness
2. mykonian replacing Blackberry - want to note that i liked BB's, like, one post? but then myko came in and honestly i haven't been attempting to read him much but i'll admit that mollie's scumread here makes me oddly tense, however irrational that is considering i don't even know for sure about my mollie read anymore
9. Nexus - ...i had thoughts on this slot. reminder to ISO again because i forget, but i definitely had -something- on this

TO BE SORTED, OR ACTUALLY NULL SO FAR

5. ChannelDelibird
8. AJ the Epic (i think this was replaced - help??)
16. scotmany12

MIGHT BE SCUM?? IDK IT'S RECK BUT MAYBE I GAVE HIM TOO MUCH FOCUS BECAUSE I DIDN'T EXPECT THE BUDDYING

6. xRECKONERx

I SCUMREAD BOTH PLAYERS IN THIS SLOT LIKE WHOA

3. MattP replacing StrangerCoug

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actually, move myko up to "town for today". i liked blackberry enough to not want to deal with too much of that right now. gotta limit this now too


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Post Post #4860 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:39 am

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also ha ha ha ha ha mollie

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Post Post #4861 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:00 am

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I will post other stuff later, but I was rooting for a scot win for most of the game, so Im sad it was ripped away from him at the last second.

I found this game pretty horrible to mod, I'll be honest. But it's something that is systemic on site. There was no need for some of the aggression. I've never had to warn players before, and in this game I had to warn 2. That said, I've talked extensively to them both, but I think it's worth noting because they weren't the only two I was disappointed with.

I have been told differently, but I think I did a bit of a poor job modding, or at least it wasn't as good as previous games I've modded. I should have dealt with some of the lurkers a lot sooner than I did, and I am more annoyed than I have shown at some, especially those who repeatedly promised that they would post and never did. I should have dealt with the aggression sooner as well. Flavour became a bit unmanageable as well. The idea was to have a little excerpt in every votecount, but I eventually had to give up, rl issues and a lack of enthusiasm (which Ill move onto later) made me give up and the fact I didn't hear any complaints made me feel justified.

In terms of balance as well, it did turn scum sided. It wasn't really something that any of my reviewers or myself picked up on, but I realised quite early on. Particularly because scums kills so frequently didn't work yet were still in it and whilst I think Nexus did alright in the end and I am not too upset that he won in the end.

The thing (apart from the insults) that upset me the most was the scum team. I have never known a scumteam to be so apathetic. It was really unfair. For the first few days, having the whole scumteam as inactive as they were was really disappointing, at one point I was ready to replace them all. I realise that Nexus/SC had a lot of work and Nexus did apologise and somewhat made up for it, I was upset. There was another issue with the scum team which I won't go into but yeah, I think I'm justified in my anger.

That brings me however to the best thing, which was (most of) my replacements. Matt, Espy, KMD. Thanks for replacing into what was an impossible situation for each of you, I commend your efforts and hope that this win kind of makes up for the fact that you got lynched soon after you replaced in. Myko, nero, you did awesome as well. I'd be interested in hearing peoples opinions about the Titus situation, I had to ask some of my "team" but we came to a consensus that it was fine for Titus to continue posting after replacing out but there was some disagreement there.

This will sound strange but I think town did well latterly but you'll see my opinion in the dead thread. I do think the town was advantaged by the scum play, because particularly with the first lynch, I don't think it would have gone through had scum been more active.

As for the SK, I think Scot played really well, and whilst he didn't win, I think he deserves some commendation, I don't think he put a foot wrong and don't really understand that last lynch. I probably would have gone for the SK/scum draw here and just lynch Dav but I guess if there is still a lynch of winning... (also I presume noone knew who the last town was)

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2 goon
1 encryptor
1 joat - 1 vote silence, 1 rolecop, can't remember what else off hand.

1 arsonist - 1nk protection

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Zito didn't ever use his bus driver.

But congrats Nexus.
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Post Post #4862 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:01 am

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In post 4860, xRECKONERx wrote:also ha ha ha ha ha mollie

ha ha ha ha


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Post Post #4863 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:07 am

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Didn't I say Nexus was scum.

If you would have lynched him, that mighta worked.

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Post Post #4864 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:13 am

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I replaced out because I didn't realize Mollie was here when subbing in. I know I make games long sometimes, so frequently I find the long games no one will want and smile. Mollie and I were let's just say frustrated with each other and I wanted us too cool off before playing with her.

So yeah, that's on me. We're going to work it out. :)
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Post Post #4865 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:21 am

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Tad scumsided considering that, as I said, in the end we only were allowed 3 mislynches to hit 5 scum, but oh well :P

Potentially, I'd have lost whatever I did on the last day, so I don't feel too pressured, but still, I definitely could have played better (my tunnelling of the Bins spot was particularly weak).

Well modded, Poro, and well played everyone!
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Post Post #4866 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:23 am

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my takeaway from this game is that titus and I kissed and made up, found 2 new pple that I adore (scotty and flame).

scotty you did an amazing job. I haven't been rolled like that since kise. <3

it was very disappointing to go into the dead pt and read the gm saying that the first 3 scum lynches were based on luck. prozac and I have worked out our differences and we are still friends! yaye! my playstyle is just not his cup of tea. but after I read that I realized all of my effort was completely wasted. all that time and energy...wasted. and I don't feel this way cos we lost either.

so in this game I had to put up with my lover's endless fucking whining.
I got told that I did not deserve best town performance by ckd.
insulted by pretty much every1 except the sk.
yelled at by the mod cos we disagree on the rules.
repeatedly told i was a bad player by pretty much every1 despite my early reads being mostly right.
told by 1 of my closest friends he never wants to play with me again.

what more fun cld I have had.

usually I try to end games on a positive note. not this 1. I am pretty bitter about it.

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Post Post #4867 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:23 am

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Your correct play was no-lynching and hoping for a scum crosskill. scot handed this opportunity to you.

If you were determined to lynch someone it shouldn't have been scot, who deserved the win if he were some scum type.
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Post Post #4868 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:24 am

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Day 1 - lynched matt

Night 1 -
Scot (SK) kills Marquis
Mollie (Nympho) eventually loverises Starbuck
CDB (Maf JOAT) rolecops Bins (gets vanilla)
Spiffeh JKs Zito
CKD Tracks Flameaxe (nowhere)
Nexus (scum) kills Scot

Day 2 - Lynch Espy

Scot kills catboi
Nexus kills Zito
kmd silences Nexus
spiffeh jailkeeps ckd
ckd tracks Zito (fails)

Day 3 - Lynch KMD

Scot kills Spiffeh
Spiffeh JKS Mollie
Nexus kills mollie (fails)
CKD tracks Reck (nowhere)

Day 4 - Lynch myko

Scot kills CKD
Nexus kills CKD
CKD tracks Starbuck

Day 5

Day 5 - Lynch pisskop

Scot kills BBM
Nexus kills mollie
Starbuck also dies

Day 6 - Lynch Nero

Everyone kills Reck

Day 7 - Lynch Scot

Nexus wins.
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Post Post #4869 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:27 am

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In post 4867, Papa Zito wrote:Your correct play was no-lynching and hoping for a scum crosskill. scot handed this opportunity to you.

If you were determined to lynch someone it shouldn't have been scot, who deserved the win if he were some scum type.

Yeh I know, I basically panicked and decided to do something, realised like 2 minutes later it was the wrong choice and that my vote had been hammered.
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Post Post #4870 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:30 am

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Thanks Poro for hosting and the rest of you for an interesting read. It does underline for me that I don't have the time and energy to participate in larges, peanut gallery is OK though!

Scot I thought you played very well. There was a wall in your ISO somewhere that was particularly good. I think if I ever roll SK I'll have to come back and have a look at this game :)
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Post Post #4871 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:46 am

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Dead QT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7285288

Since you brought it up, I think I may have been a bit harsh, as I said to you in PM, mollie, but I think the first lynch for sure came out of left field and was primarily due to poor scum play, a lot thereafter was connected. The town took advantage of that, and did well to lynch 3 on the bounce, but I do think poor scum play played a factor in that.
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Post Post #4872 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:52 am

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First lynch was probably more luck than skill, I'd happily argue that the second lynch was skill for the most part, the third lynch was sorta just... votes wandered over there and a bad fakeclaim resulted in the final few reluctant people piling on.
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Post Post #4873 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:53 am

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In post 4871, Porochaz wrote:Dead QT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php? ... &p=7285288

Since you brought it up, I think I may have been a bit harsh, as I said to you in PM, mollie, but I think the first lynch for sure came out of left field and was primarily due to poor scum play, a lot thereafter was connected. The town took advantage of that, and did well to lynch 3 on the bounce, but I do think poor scum play played a factor in that.

That is one fucked up link, may wanna fix that :P
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Post Post #4874 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 2456, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1986, Davsto wrote:
In post 1983, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1973, Davsto wrote:
In post 1971, Espeonage wrote:No. Wait a minute. Obviously poro would't put a jester in. Tell me the truth.
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In post 1967, Spiffeh wrote:and why?
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