My vote on Jeanne D2 was a mixture of me scumreading Ice when on how he jumped onto talah, and how vague Jeanne had been once she replaced in.
I questioned and suspected Jeanne D1 and the aftermath of D1 is what finally led me to thinking she was most likely scum.
Basically what I said in my opening post D2,
1566 I used the only likely pool that Wickan could have gone by that led to his death in hiding. Since SP flipped town, I then finally pushed Jeanne since there were no greater candidate of likely flipping scum.
I also pushed Titus for not going on board with the Jeanne lynch despite the spill of info. via flips. And pushed Titus as being the likely scumbuddy for a bit, but wasn't sold on that until D3 where I voted there.
I legitimately tried to figure out Jeanne, and I actively pushed her to have conversation with me - and call her out whenever she wasn't providing anything helpful. (Her weird posts D2.)
ABR's vote and reasoning doesn't seem genuine in my eyes.
1551 - BEFORE talah even flips, ABR assumes that Jeanne bussed talah, and after his last few posts of Jeanne consisted of saying
"Jeanne is a compromise lynch"
1416 after contradicted himself and STATED that Jeanne was D2s lynch.
1392
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Him going to this position on Jeanne seems like a quick move in distance, and drawing up on associatives that wouldn't involve himself. The fact that he changed his position and attitude on Jeannes lynch within such a short amount of time suggests that he was placing himself in a place where Jeanne could be lynched without any resistance, or at least - giving himself the ability to freely bus Jeanne whenever she quickhammered ABR.
Now that I think about, the whole Jeanne hammering talah and how quickly ABR jumped on Jeanne for that, seemed like a scum tactic- sacrificing Jeanne.
It makes more sense because ABR's opening post D2
1567 - Was NOT even talking about how Jeanne was scum, instead - he baited the idea that talah's lynch was his fault and then pushed Jeanne to L-1 AFTER Johnny and I voted.
ABR never even put up the idea that he pushed Jeanne to L-1.
He already knew Jeanne was going to flip scum.
I literally had to call that out before anyone derp-hammered.
1568
Johnny was killed N2, if ANY vote was planned here - it'd probably be him on Jeanne because:
A)
He wanted to leave possibilities to incriminate someone down the line.
B)
His whole tunnel on talah wasn't exactly explained, but while he claimed that talahs lynch was all his fault, he sheep-bussed Jeanne like any inconsistency he put up in D1 mattered.
1582
C)
- Jeanne LITERALLY did nothing against her wagon D2 leading to her lynch. If ABR self-imploded D2 about how he was upset that his 'talah tunnel' was a bust, then it was probably scum theatre and distancing.
Jeanne and ABR didn't even speak in D2 outside of ABR's vote.
((Except for
1572 and 1573 - Where ABR just said that this couldn't be Jeanne town but Jeanne only directed him to talk to Johnny - the person he voted against... Guess who died that night again? Johnny.))
I put everything I could on the table surrounding my thoughts on Jeanne and any other possibility.
1576 and
1589 I even wanted your thoughts on Jeanne before the lynch was official, FA.
This is also a major portion as to why I believe that ABR is the final scum, FA. If there's anything you're not understanding about this, then I'll reiterate and answer your questions.
But that's my thinking on ABR's bus, it seemed planned.
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P-Edit
You want scum meta of bussing? Alright.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=63741
This is my only game as mafia as stated before.
Read the post game. Page 30.
I avoid bussing. I also post A LOT LESS as scum and don't interact as much.
Read posts 375, and 498. Those are posts I voted for RC - who was my scumpartner in that game. Notice how a lot of my reasoning is either one-sided or me tired of being tunneled? Versus genuine scumhunting? The vote almost came out of nowhere considering I spoke to other people with more heat.
They were very short and underwhelming and I dismissed a lot of RCs posts against me previously, without a lot of pushing.
Pushing Jeannes lynch while sorting other things out was all I did D2.
But judge for yourself.
I don't want a repeat of that. Idgaf about alignment at that point. This is a game - even if it resembles several social experiments. I want to keep it that way.
I hope not....