Blitz 15: Monks and Masons in Serona II - GAME OVER!

[AlwaysInnocent]

I don't think Yakko has done anything particularly scummy at this point. He has said some nonsensical things, but he is probably just trying to get the game going.

[fferyllt]

VC 1.4

Kaboose

(5): Frozen Angel, hi im Yakko, BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie, tojam2, Lowell

hi im Yakko

(3): pisskop, BlackStar, Spigot

Spigot

(3): Ümläüt, Ranger, Anxiety Attack

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie

(2): Kaboose, AlwaysInnocent

Not Voting

(0):

None

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: December 27, Midnight US Time

Countdown: (expired on 2015-12-26 21:36:08)

Mod Notes:

Day 1 is 4 calendar days long to accommodate the holidays.

[hi im Yakko]

Hey man! Looking forward to playing with you again.

Buddying.

VOTE: Spigot

Town because I would go after the same thing if I didn't already know this slot was town.

Ranger is also town.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack

~Spiffy (I will always sign my posts)

Are you saying you are town because of the same thought process????... ... ... Ohhhhhhh! You're saying he is town because that is what you would go after as town. What poor choice of words.

In the humour me department, what was he [umluat] going after you for exactly? And why would you also go after that?

Your post suggests...implies. Yes implies you are out of rvs state of mind. Care to talk to me about your vote?

@spigot Inasked you questions.

[Anxiety Attack]

huh. silver told me to do something here......

let me iso her

[Anxiety Attack]

so i isoed her.

Spiffeh whats wrong buddy? talk to me maybe i can help out

agreed on yakko town read.

[Anxiety Attack]

Ai is null to me it feels like passive stuff with no real followup

[Lowell]

fos AA

Looks the worse in the pointless exchange with spigot.

Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.

[Lowell]

@mod

I know this is blitz, but I hope there will be some allowances for the holidays. I'm heading out of town starting noon tomorrow, and won't be back until monday morning. I'm also a weird luddite who doesn't own a smartphone. I will try to find the occasional internet access to keep up, but there's a small chance I won't.

Am I allowed to proxy my vote?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.

Lol. I don't know about Kaboose. And yes, I do prefer not joining a wagon at L-2 so recklessly. Although Kaboose's latest posts did make me consider voting for him, but I am not sure if we can really say if it means anything.

[fferyllt]

@mod

I know this is blitz, but I hope there will be some allowances for the holidays. I'm heading out of town starting noon tomorrow, and won't be back until monday morning. I'm also a weird luddite who doesn't own a smartphone. I will try to find the occasional internet access to keep up, but there's a small chance I won't.

Am I allowed to proxy my vote?

I don't allow vote-proxying.

If you are able to make one post every 2 days while you are v/la, I won't need to replace you.

[BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie]

Hey man! Looking forward to playing with you again.

Buddying.

VOTE: Spigot

Town because I would go after the same thing if I didn't already know this slot was town.

Ranger is also town.

VOTE: Anxiety Attack

~Spiffy (I will always sign my posts)

What you did is not technically buddying. However, you immediately townreading Umlat for that looks a lot closer to buddying. Why the townread on Ranger? Ranger kind of did a similar play to that in the last game she played but I wouldn't call it town so much as typical but I haven't seen a scumgame of hers and maybe ika can help with that.

Noting this post cuz I don't like it.

~SW

Agreed that the followup post looks worse than the original.

[Lowell]

Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.

Lol. I don't know about Kaboose. And yes, I do prefer not joining a wagon at L-2 so recklessly. Although Kaboose's latest posts did make me consider voting for him, but I am not sure if we can really say if it means anything.

Who, then? We don't have forever. Your vote is basically a random/lurkervote (or is it?).

If you don't like the kaboosewagon help create your own. I haven't seen you do that.

[Spigot]

Thoughts on some posts so far:

Spoiler: Quote wall

Therefore...

VOTE: Ümlaut

For breaking software.

I'm less sold on AI town than Spiffeh, this eagerness at the beginning of the game and this vote to make sure he didn't post early and not have an RVS vote seems like trying to seem town.

{hi im Yakko, pisskop}
{Umlaut}
{Anxiety Attack}
{Lowell}
{Frozen Angel}
{BlackStar, Bebop, AlwaysInnocent, tojam2}
{Kaboose}
{Spigot}

VOTE: Spigot.

This is flat out ridiculous. It's a. impossible to have the whole game sorted out like that when not everyone has even posted yet and b. not helpful because you don't explain anything. Useless or scum.

Why are so many people taking the RVS votes seriously?

Trying to keep us inside RVS, eh?

This is what Spiffeh said was town. I think it's easy to point out this kind of thing without committing to anything and is mostly null. BlackStar's inquisitiveness seems town to me FWIW.

You're misrepping me completely.

I quoted yours because I wanted to know what language Kaboose=Nightmare

I quoted BeBop to apologize for the mispelling.

I quoted tojam because they took my vote seriously.

NOTHING I said was defensive. The closest is my question to tojam BECAUSE he took it seriously.

This post seems towny to me. Answered all questions. Didn't derail the thread whining or anything. Didn't seem defensive to me.

Why didn't you just ask what language it was?

What's the point of this? How are you sorting Kaboose no matter how he answers?

Are you reading the game AA?

This post is less towny from Kaboose. AA pretty clearly was reading and posting about specific things. So Kaboose isn't reading or is trying to throw shade for scummy reasons.

No conclusions yet, just wanted people to see my head's thoughts so far.

-PN

[Spigot]

@Yaako I saw your questions, am I correct in thinking you are asking the Spiffeh head?

[BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie]

Ranger's having a readlist already is bizarre. Not sure if scummy bizarre or just regular bizarre.

Read his meta. I can't comment more than that.

[hi im Yakko]

@Yaako I saw your questions, am I correct in thinking you are asking the Spiffeh head?

You guys aren't talking together? Interesting. You can answer if you would like.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Kaboose's non-defense does not overwhelm, nor does AI's fear of joining the wagon. One of these two has to be scum.

Lol. I don't know about Kaboose. And yes, I do prefer not joining a wagon at L-2 so recklessly. Although Kaboose's latest posts did make me consider voting for him, but I am not sure if we can really say if it means anything.

Who, then? We don't have forever. Your vote is basically a random/lurkervote (or is it?).

Yes. It is a lurker vote.

We have around 3 days and 8 hours left. We can do better than this.

Countdown: 3 days, 8 hours, 1 minute

If you don't like the kaboosewagon help create your own. I haven't seen you do that.

I am voting for Bebop at the moment. Is that not a wagon?

[BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bebop
Needs to come out and play.

Yes I do. Then again its only been 24hrs since my confirm.

21 - Tell us who it is so we can lynch them!
35 - I found this buddying accusation forced, but the followup from spigot in 39 looks worse. Not sure I like the votes in 36 and 38 based on this.
38 - I wish I could say more about this, but I can't pending an ongoing game finishing. =(
39&40 - 39 has really awkward wording, and I agree with most of yakko's points in 40, but I really don't like yakko's tone here. It seems really sure of himself for this early in the game. I'm going to call it null for a bit and come back to this later.
46 - Voting based on a long name is worse than voting for someone for breaking a vote count

how

?
47 - The tone of this doesn't read as defensive, but this only comments on posts that vote against him. I don't like this, but at the same time I don't like how fast the Kaboose wagon formed. I wasn't caught up when I voted for it, but AI's 65 is correct, and I don't like wagons that are this easy; too likely to have scum on them.
54 - I don't like this. I don't see where 47 was defensive about a random vote, and I think 39 is easily attackable, but the post was still in rvs, so I can't treat the vote in there as anything other than a rvs vote.

I agree with AI that the kaboose wagon formed far too fast. I'm moving off of it for that reason primarily.

87, 88 & 89 - This seems kinda defensive too, but the reasoning works.

VOTE: Lowell
I specifically don't like 54, and nothing else has done much to redeem him in my eyes. This isn't a very firm read, but its the best I've got right now. I still don't like spigot's play, but I feel that the presented reasons for voting him have been worse. AI and Ranger are the only ones that I have any sort of town lean on right now but I'm very unsure of those too.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Why do you have a town-lean on Ranger?

[Spigot]

@Yaako I saw your questions, am I correct in thinking you are asking the Spiffeh head?

You guys aren't talking together? Interesting. You can answer if you would like.

We are talking, but it was his posts you were asking about.

My thoughts are that he was saying he'd think what I said was scummy if he didn't already know better. I was being friendly early in the game, but I'm just friendly all the time!

I don't know if the AA vote is still RVS, he did change our slot's vote. I think it was more to engage them since they hadn't been in thread at that point.

Feel free to elaborate on this if you'd like Spiffeh.

-PN

[BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie]

Thoughts on some posts so far:

Spoiler: Quote wall

Therefore...
VOTE: Ümlaut
For breaking software.

I'm less sold on AI town than Spiffeh, this eagerness at the beginning of the game and this vote to make sure he didn't post early and not have an RVS vote seems like trying to seem town.

I'm just assuming that AI was online when the game went live. *shrugs*

{hi im Yakko, pisskop}
{Umlaut}
{Anxiety Attack}
{Lowell}
{Frozen Angel}
{BlackStar, Bebop, AlwaysInnocent, tojam2}
{Kaboose}
{Spigot}

VOTE: Spigot.

This is flat out ridiculous. It's a. impossible to have the whole game sorted out like that when not everyone has even posted yet and b. not helpful because you don't explain anything. Useless or scum.

Agreed, but its still a null tell.

Why are so many people taking the RVS votes seriously?

Trying to keep us inside RVS, eh?

This is what Spiffeh said was town. I think it's easy to point out this kind of thing without committing to anything and is mostly null. BlackStar's inquisitiveness seems town to me FWIW.

You're misrepping me completely.
I quoted yours because I wanted to know what language Kaboose=Nightmare
I quoted BeBop to apologize for the mispelling.
I quoted tojam because they took my vote seriously.
NOTHING I said was defensive. The closest is my question to tojam BECAUSE he took it seriously.

This post seems towny to me. Answered all questions. Didn't derail the thread whining or anything. Didn't seem defensive to me.

I agree with this assessment.

Why didn't you just ask what language it was?

What's the point of this? How are you sorting Kaboose no matter how he answers?

Are you reading the game AA?

This post is less towny from Kaboose. AA pretty clearly was reading and posting about specific things. So Kaboose isn't reading or is trying to throw shade for scummy reasons.[/spoiler]
No conclusions yet, just wanted people to see my head's thoughts so far.

-PN

That's a lot of townleans if not reads... Is anyone looking scummy to you?

[BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie]

Why do you have a town-lean on Ranger?

Its almost nothing, but we've seen him do this insane early reads thing before, and 48 attacked one of the more awkward things about 39 which was spigot's town read on ranger.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Disagreeing hydra heads. How are supposed to get a read on that?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Why do you have a town-lean on Ranger?

Its almost nothing, but we've seen him do this insane early reads thing before, and 48 attacked one of the more awkward things about 39 which was spigot's town read on ranger.

Yes, we've seen it before, so it was null, according to you. But now she is town according to you?

[AlwaysInnocent]

Also, Ranger is a she, not a he. According to her profile.