Tarot uPick II - GAME OVER

[Kamigami]

No Lynch is likely the end of the game.

NS can't afford to shoot you while AJ remains a question mark. He can't shoot AJ because then you're certain to re-evaluate.

Bert, consult Gaiden. I know he's been less active, but he knows me well enough to be able to sort this out if he reviews a bit.

[Aj The Epic]

What are your thoughts right now, AJ?

Kami's push for a no-lynch now doesn't make sense for town, considering their prior position. I don't believe that FG wants this ending in a draw under any circumstance. Especially because it assumes "no lynch means game ends happily ever after". The scenario here for kami!scum would be no-lynch, kill PN, claim wifom on Notty and rely on my ties to believing Kami!town over Notscience to endgame where PN can't stop the lynch. In 3-man lylo, it already would have occurred earlier.

The only question is then why no-kill into today in the first place. Avoiding possible wifom scenarios, is there a reason this occurs? They don't know I get cop, but they did suggest that I postured like I had a cop shot waiting. If they suspected a cop-shot, the chances of them winning with a kill is 50/50 considering I'd obviously cop one of notty/pn. But if they don't figure this, I don't see any benefit to take a no-kill. They'd be better off taking a 3-person Lylo unless they suspect I won't vote with them.

I'm toying with the thought that this point for a NK is just a way to eliminate PN who's blocking their current path to victory (NS lynch).

[Kamigami]

What are your thoughts right now, AJ?

Kami's push for a no-lynch now doesn't make sense for town, considering their prior position. I don't believe that FG wants this ending in a draw under any circumstance.

Why do you think these things?

[notscience]

6875 is read

"Consult gaiden because we know how much he loves to lynch notty always"

For those that are on the go

[Kamigami]

They don't know I get cop, but they did suggest that I postured like I had a cop shot waiting. If they suspected a cop-shot, the chances of them winning with a kill is 50/50 considering I'd obviously cop one of notty/pn. But if they don't figure this, I don't see any benefit to take a no-kill. They'd be better off taking a 3-person Lylo unless they suspect I won't vote with them.

This is correct mostly. It looked to me like you had a cop shot, as is evident from my sudden acceptance of the vanilla No Lynch yesterday following 6587. If I were scum, not only do I not No Kill again (which I wouldn't have done in the first place), I'd have shot you last night without fail.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

Suika is currently mulling over his options and will be hither shortly.
He wonders if anyone seems angry at his totes conftownness.
-Luigi

[Perpetual Nonsense]

VOTE: Kamigami

[Oil Tycoons]

:/

It sucks that notscience hasn't done Jack Shit today

[Kamigami]

VOTE: Kamigami

Is this gaiden? Is there a reason behind this?

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Kamigami

[Kamigami]

O, you were scum?

I guess I feel better about that.

[Kamigami]

This game should have been called on Night 2.

[Aj The Epic]

It's not over, you're at L-1.

[Aj The Epic]

A.) The positional change to not wanting a clear victory doesn't fit anything FG said earlier.
B.) The actions you described you would take do not add up. There's no way you throw away my support in any situation.

[Kamigami]

NS is voting me. If you're town, you just lost.

I was hoping gaiden would answer first, I would like him to be explicit if he's mostly sheeping nacho so that nacho can't pull a "Gosh, it wasn't my fault, I didn't even have a vote!"

[Kamigami]

FG said nothing about a clear victory. He agrees with me that Ferry interceded on scum's behalf.

[Aj The Epic]

So I'm playing under context of a hammer since I knew notty voted but it wasn't recorded. Already messaged about it, though realistically I should've played it safer. Was worried PN would unvote though.

In the HEA scenario? No, actually. Had you taken it at face value, it actually indicated I was scum if it hadn't been policy.

[Kamigami]

I interpreted that way initially, but even with the superficial interpretation, you'd have been forced to perform cop investigations given enough nights.

In any case, ferry rightfully didn't count the vote. You lose, though I feel a little bad about being mean to nacho.

VOTE: AJ

[Kamigami]

Ferry should have answered my question about it truthfully if what you are saying is true, though.

[fferyllt]

Please hold

UPDATE: I'm waiting to hear back from the listmod and my reviewer. Sorry for the delay.

[fferyllt]

Thread reopened. Carry on.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

unvote

[Kamigami]

AJ confessed, bert.

He screwed up; I knew I wasn't lynched, but that was my last ditch effort to save the game.

Yes, it's anticlimactic, but he acknowledged himself that ns's vote wasn't counted.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

VOTE: kamigami

notscience you should vote on your actual hydra

i was under the impression that notscience's vote didn't count, as he didn't post on his hydra and his "hydra" is still in the game
i looked at all the votecounts and the OP and they all still said Fluff Central, and nowhere did it say he ever replaced out onto his main account a la echo echo and pieguyn.

[Perpetual Nonsense]

VOTE: AJ