Newbie 1671 - Game Over (Scum win)

[Raskolnikov]

tictac do you know how long it takes to read and summarize games? It takes AGES.

[PhantomCobalt]

Haters will say I'm using mets defense

I play differently from town to scum, but just look at my games lmao

[PhantomCobalt]

But wait I don't use meta defense

Disregard that

[PhantomCobalt]

Am I getting pl'ed or not? lmao

A pl still results in a lot of info from my flip because of the fast changing wagons

[Raskolnikov]

tictac do you know how long it takes to read and summarize games? It takes AGES.

Actually technically scum could do such a thing quickly to defend a partner because their partner could just do it for them in daychat, so your suspicion is somewhat valid tictac (although still wrong).

[PhantomCobalt]

This is getting fiesty

[Raskolnikov]

Wait PC if you thought Sarg was town and unvoted who do you actually suspect of being mafia at this point?

[PhantomCobalt]

Wait PC if you thought Sarg was town and unvoted who do you actually suspect of being mafia at this point?

Camn is my stand-out mafia read

[Raskolnikov]

You're a very frustrating player and I wish I wasn't townreading you.

[camn]

Meh.

I can't say I love the sarg-hate falling off, but I kind of see where it is coming from. He doesn't quite have that mafia twist in the wind that I like to see. Which troubles me.

I love the idea of a Cobalt Lynch. Him jumping off the Sarg-hate wagon actually reads pretty scummy to me. That's twice he has run someone up just to jump off, like he is trying to grab a quick mislynch while he can. He might be right about sarg being town, since, given PC-scum, he would obviously know who is and isn't town.

Hmm.

[PhantomCobalt]

Meh.

I can't say I love the sarg-hate falling off, but I kind of see where it is coming from. He doesn't quite have that mafia twist in the wind that I like to see. Which troubles me.

I love the idea of a Cobalt Lynch. Him jumping off the Sarg-hate wagon actually reads pretty scummy to me. That's twice he has run someone up just to jump off, like he is trying to grab a quick mislynch while he can. He might be right about sarg being town, since, given PC-scum, he would obviously know who is and isn't town.

Hmm.

You sound pretty opportunistic hmmhmhm

[tictac]

@Rask
How did you choose witch games to read?
Do you have similar meta on other players?

[PhantomCobalt]

@Rask
How did you choose witch games to read?
Do you have similar meta on other players?

I think those were all of my Rome games

[camn]

Right PC, I replace in with 2 or 3 scumreads and try to get them lynched. One without any wagon at all. How is that opportunistic?

Of course, the problem with you is you have already set it up that you can make totally false claims, with no backup, at odds with reality.... And then ignore questions about it. Which, let me be clear, is scummy AND anti town.

So, can you answer? What about my play is opportunistic? You have been a scumread from the start, and I have repeatedly endorsed your Lynch. So explain.

[Raskolnikov]

@Rask
How did you choose witch games to read?
Do you have similar meta on other players?

1 - went through his posts, ignored the unfinished, open and blitz games, and tried to get a sample of both town and scum. I remember dropping one because he replaced in d3 into a winning game and said almost nothing, and I think another one for similar.
2 - Nothing so thorough. I resort to this if I have difficulty reading them normally, the only other person I tried this on was Plotinus earlier in the game. It didn't help.

[PhantomCobalt]

Right PC, I replace in with 2 or 3 scumreads and try to get them lynched. One without any wagon at all. How is that opportunistic?

Of course, the problem with you is you have already set it up that you can make totally false claims, with no backup, at odds with reality.... And then ignore questions about it. Which, let me be clear, is scummy AND anti town.

So, can you answer? What about my play is opportunistic? You have been a scumread from the start, and I have repeatedly endorsed your Lynch. So explain.

It's a shame your vote isn't on me, even though I have been a "scum read" from the start

[Raskolnikov]

Still wanna lynch sarg btw.

[PhantomCobalt]

Still wanna lynch sarg btw.

Good to know

[tictac]

@Rask
How did you choose witch games to read?
Do you have similar meta on other players?

1 - went through his posts, ignored the unfinished, open and blitz games, and tried to get a sample of both town and scum. I remember dropping one because he replaced in d3 into a winning game and said almost nothing, and I think another one for similar.
2 - Nothing so thorough. I resort to this if I have difficulty reading them normally, the only other person I tried this on was Plotinus earlier in the game. It didn't help.

Looking at 1632 now.
I think he said plenty. He was nightkilled, so probably didn't play that bad. Haven't read it much thou.
I

wonder

why this one wasn't on your list.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62779

[camn]

It's a shame your vote isn't on me, even though I have been a "scum read" from the start

So, no answers. Predictable.
What's with the quotes? Are you saying I have NOT had you as a scum read from the start? Or is this just adolescent "air quotes" because coherent thoughts are hard to type?

[PhantomCobalt]

It's a shame your vote isn't on me, even though I have been a "scum read" from the start

So, no answers. Predictable.
What's with the quotes? Are you saying I have NOT had you as a scum read from the start? Or is this just adolescent "air quotes" because coherent thoughts are hard to type?

In this mafia scum forum game thing you are supposed to vote your scum reads

[Zaicon]

VOTE COUNT 1.10

Sarg338 (2) - camn, Raskolnikov
camn (0) -
tictac (0) -
KuroiXHF (0) -
Raskolnikov (1) - Sarg338
franksa (0) -
pignash (0) -
PhantomCobalt (3) - tictac, KuroiXHF, Plotinus
Plotinus (1) - franksa

Not Voting: pignash, PhantomCobalt

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is Sunday, January 3rd 2016 at 8:45 pm PST or in (expired on 2016-01-03 20:45:00)

[Raskolnikov]

Looking at 1632 now.
I think he said plenty. He was nightkilled, so probably didn't play that bad. Haven't read it much thou.
I

wonder

why this one wasn't on your list.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=62779

Wow he actually didn't play terribly in that game. His lynches were on fellow townies, but his posts didn't completely suck. I theorise he took that game more seriously because he had a power role. It makes him look a little worse here for not playing to that standard but my intuition is against a day 1 halfpolicy lynch on him still.

Although you seem to care more about me than him anyways, even with these questions. I question your attempts to actually read me based on how I meta'd someone, and your overeagerness in trying to find scumpairs day 1.

[tictac]

Although you seem to care more about me than him anyways, even with these questions.

I can get coherent answers from you. I can't get any from him.

I question your attempts to actually read me based on how I meta'd someone, and your overeagerness in trying to find scumpairs day 1.

That's fine. If you actually did meta on PC I'll apologize after the game.
With the timing of you publishing your links and the conspicuous omission of the game that didn't fit the narrative you were conveying, I really do think it much more likely that PC gave those links to you thou.

[Raskolnikov]

I don't think PC would be nearly a good enough player to do that without messing it up horrendously.