Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[Persivul]

First draw I got

Clairvoyant
Cop
Mafia goon

What did you choose?

[BlackStar]

Clairvoyant

[Wednesday_]

Ranger conf town - 1 post
Smithers eager town? - 4
Flubber paranoid town? - 7
Persivul trying to blend in - 15
Frozen angel gut town read - 19
Almost 50 hard to read - 3
Cowbells null - 1
Blackstar noob town? - 4
Thats all I hav so far

Number of posts added above. No mention of:

lane - 5
davesaz - 2
Starbuck - 1

So how do you get conftown on Ranger from 1 post, but don't even mention lane at 5?

I didnt see lane davesaz or strabuck in my read through. I forget that they even existed. Null on all three.

Ranger is conf town bc of miller claim.

[Persivul]

Clairvoyant

I had that option this deal. I had to look it up. It would be helpful to town but not much fun - one reveal and you're a VT going forward.

[Persivul]

Ranger is conf town bc of miller claim.

Why does a miller claim make her conftown? Is that a general rule for you, or something specific to Ranger?

[davesaz]

I got a weird draw 1st time.

Mafia Seer
Two-shot Commuter
Survivor Bloodsucker

With my record of getting lynched early and often, survivor was out of the question. Bloodsucker creates a treestump, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
I literally flipped a coin between Mafia Commuter and Town Seer, and it came up mafia.

[Wednesday_]

Ranger is conf town bc of miller claim.

Why does a miller claim make her conftown? Is that a general rule for you, or something specific to Ranger?

Is it not for you? I have yet to see scum do it. Show me a game where scum have claimed
Miller I'll reconsider.

[Persivul]

I would have thought that Miller is a role, not a modifier. But upon checking the setup I see that there is in fact a 1/75 chance to get miller as a modifier to another role.

By noting the odds are you implying that you're skeptical of the claim?

[Frozen Angel]

Wednesday this is a different kind of miller claim. its a modifier claim not the role so it can be on the real scums as well.

plus the only badies here are not mafia

[Persivul]

Is it not for you? I have yet to see scum do it. Show me a game where scum have claimed
Miller I'll reconsider.

So you're an alt.

Regarding miller, I've yet to see one. Regarding past experience, are you referring to games like this with a deal, or standard games? Typically scum aren't millers. In this setup, where scum could indeed draw a miller modifier...what would be the downside to claiming it?

p-edit - FA's on the same track as me.

[Wednesday_]

Wednesday this is a different kind of miller claim. its a modifier claim not the role so it can be on the real scums as well.

plus the only badies here are not mafia

One second. I'll get back to you on this. If it is true whoever started this meandering discussion is most likely town. As town usually become idiots for information. It sounds counter intuitive to the whole scum want disorder that's blatantly false of course.

What it means is that the roles do not mean anything and we are just wasting time. Unless we are going to spend day 1 setup spec and attempting to break it. Either way whatever happens I'm okay with it.

The town read on ranger is still their until they do something seems premature to remove such a townread because of reality. Yeah I said it. Who'll bite?

[RadiantCowbells]

FA's the kind of person who is highly liable to have chosen a scum role.

VOTE: FA

Let's start with this.

[Persivul]

FA's the kind of person who is highly liable to have chosen a scum role.

Support for this?

[Almost50]

I kinda sense this game is going to be SUPER CRAZY. Not that I didn't expect it, but with all those modifiers tossed in it feels like any given investigative role could just be rendered worthless.

My first 3 cards (first draw) were: Jailkeeper, Werewolf Bodyguard & Werewolf, so my combinations were: Town BodyGuard, Werewolf Bodyguard (and I obviously wouldn't choose to die for someone else), Vanilla Townie (not too interesting in a game like this), Werewolf & Werewolf Jailkeeper.

Basically I had no choice but to be a WW, so why not a Jailkeeper too, so that's what I picked.

However, I cannot complain about the 2nd draw outcome. This is much more fun (the role I got this time), AND it's town-aligned too (like you're going to just take my word for it).

Now for the real deal. RC is nothing like the RC he was in our previous game. Furthermore, he's getting "null" reads on him already, which is worrying. According to HIM, people read him as scummy when he's town and vise-versa, so I'm assuming he's got something to hide.

UNVOTE: FA

VOTE: RC

Let's hear you talking, my friend

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, I'll bite.

VOTE: Wednesday

Now for the real deal. RC is nothing like the RC he was in our previous game. Furthermore, he's getting "null" reads on him already, which is worrying. According to HIM, people read him as scummy when he's town and vise-versa, so I'm assuming he's got something to hide.

I've posted twice.

[davesaz]

I would have thought that Miller is a role, not a modifier. But upon checking the setup I see that there is in fact a 1/75 chance to get miller as a modifier to another role.

By noting the odds are you implying that you're skeptical of the claim?

Nope, just being accurate. 3 of the other modifier claims have the same odds.

[Frozen Angel]

FA's the kind of person who is highly liable to have chosen a scum role.

VOTE: FA

Let's start with this.

NOT AGAIN ... I chose town intentionally (even in my first deck) to show people! Hey people! I like town as well! This is mafia RC. stop this bullshit your carrying from game to game on me.

+ I couldn't choose scum at all in my second role ...

[Frozen Angel]

FA's the kind of person who is highly liable to have chosen a scum role.

Support for this?

apparently the figure I put in my wiki page showing I like playing scum - which is true - means I'm always scum for RC ...

[RadiantCowbells]

Why is this mafia RC if I do this all the time as town.

[Wednesday_]

VOTE: cowbells

Wagoning purposes

[davesaz]

I almost picked vanilla townie. Not picking one shot cult leader was easy

Especially considering the cult cards were supposed to be removed from the game.
Spreading misinformation to hide the scum card you actually picked?
VOTE: lane0168

[RadiantCowbells]

but why tho

[Frozen Angel]

dave he really discarded cult reader. its mod confirmed ...

[RadiantCowbells]

fite me wednesday

[Persivul]

I almost picked vanilla townie. Not picking one shot cult leader was easy

Especially considering the cult cards were supposed to be removed from the game.
Spreading misinformation to hide the scum card you actually picked?
VOTE: lane0168

Mod changed that on the second deal. Check one of the early posts, that rule is still there but struck out IIRC.