Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[Persivul]

I'm surprised it didn't build up on you.

I think that was purposeful. By doing a policy lynch on a lurker, the flip doesn't hurt them as much.

[Frozen Angel]

what was the alignment of your role card wednesday?

[Persivul]

I'm surprised it didn't build up on you.

I think that's because Jackal is basically a policy lynch, so his flip won't really say anything.

I doubt they want to lynch me even now. But, as we've already pointed out how bad the Jackal wagon is, Wednesday couldn't go there directly. So, she puts a vote on me, then later will have the approaching deadline as an excuse to move to Jackal.

[Persivul]

I thought I had responded to that already - didn't notice that we went to a new page.

[lane0168]

@Wednesday you brought it upon yourself by refusing to answer any questions about Ranger.

What is your point? Are you admitting I'm town? Are you scolding me? Both imply town aligned sentiment. Or are you asking me to answer a question about ranger?

I think it was scolding. Thanks for the implied townread

You can dream that I implied whatever you want. However votes would tend to imply otherwise

[lane0168]

My point being, its not that you defended ranger, it's how.

[Almost50]

My only two valid lynches of the day are Jackal and Starbuck; and as I'm assuming the latter would be soon replaced that leaves me stuck with my vote on Jackal (unless something really tragic changes this stance).

[Frozen Angel]

My only two valid lynches of the day are Jackal and Starbuck; and as I'm assuming the latter would be soon replaced that leaves me stuck with my vote on Jackal (unless something really tragic changes this stance).

why is that? lurking ?

[lane0168]

My only two valid lynches of the day are Jackal and Starbuck; and as I'm assuming the latter would be soon replaced that leaves me stuck with my vote on Jackal (unless something really tragic changes this stance).

If you had to pick a third or 4th. Who would they be? I'm just curious cause those 2 have extremely minimal content. Do you scum read anyone that actually posts enough to lynch? Or do you normally just go for the 2 that won't be defending themselves

[Persivul]

My only two valid lynches of the day are Jackal and Starbuck; and as I'm assuming the latter would be soon replaced that leaves me stuck with my vote on Jackal (unless something really tragic changes this stance).

why is that? lurking ?

Why are you on Jackal yourself?

Oh yeah:

[Frozen Angel]

yeah!

[Frozen Angel]

I'm observing look at my eyes!:)

[Almost50]

My personal stance is to go for lurkers/inactives bc they're likely to hurt the town more later on while they get almost undetected. Eversince I started playing it was more likely than not: scum was hiding there. (FA will know exactly what I mean as she witnessed literally every game I ever played outside of MS).

The only exception is when someone is screaming scum all over the place, which is not the case here.

I think I'd rather wait on some of our investigators to come up with results on the "top 4 suspects" as seen by the majority of players (if I understand what the majority feels correctly). The top 4 suspects are -in no particular order- Wednesday, Persivul, Almost (that's me) and Ranger. I'm hoping at least two of them will be investigated (by Cop, Tracker, Watcher, etc) so we will either have someone to lynch for the morrow OR 2 definitely cleared and trusted to be town, which will improve our ability to judge the other two.

I currently do not have "definite" scum reads. However, my top town read has now become FA (hey, lady .. if you're scum you certainly are playing it extremely well). The way she's playing makes me read her as 90% town. The other 10% are reserved in case she totally evolved into another being; playing style wise. I don't think she could've done that in just 2-3 weeks from our last game together.

Next up, lane is fairly town. Everybody else I'm hoping to get a better read on judging by the flip of Jackal, and/or the night action results.

[Almost50]

cause those 2 have extremely minimal content.

EXACTLY. Scum tend to contribute minimal content so as not to get caught outright lying. The more you talk the more prone to make some slips (even if you're town). However, town do not "expect" to make mistakes, so they go ahead and -sometimes- appear scummy for it. Scum -on the other hand- try to keep it quiet as much as possible to avoid being in the spotlight.

[Almost50]

Why are you on Jackal yourself?

Do an ISO of him and see for yourself. This is his total product of 78 hours (of the 96 hours day)

[Frozen Angel]

Baka this is stupid. we can't gambit to policy lynch someone... we can easily loose this game ...

[lane0168]

Good answer. As far as why you want to lynch them. I'm not going to disagree that scum will lurk.

But who else do you have for suspects? You didn't answer that part

[Persivul]

Everybody else I'm hoping to get a better read on judging by the flip of Jackal,

What reads would you get from a jackal town flip? Scum flip?

[Persivul]

I think I'd rather wait on some of our investigators to come up with results on the "top 4 suspects" as seen by the majority of players (if I understand what the majority feels correctly). The top 4 suspects are -in no particular order- Wednesday, Persivul, Almost (that's me) and Ranger. I'm hoping at least two of them will be investigated (by Cop, Tracker, Watcher, etc) so we will either have someone to lynch for the morrow OR 2 definitely cleared and trusted to be town, which will improve our ability to judge the other two.

This is pie in the sky. Best case is we get a positive for a lynch. There's no way we'll get two people cleared. First, only a cop can clear someone (and even then they could be third party). A negative from a tracker doesn't clear a person, as only 1 scum in a faction does the kill, and other power roles can also visit a NK. Second, PRs probably shouldn't out for an innocent anyway.

[Almost50]

But who else do you have for suspects? You didn't answer that part

Oh, but I did. I said I don't have definite scum reads at this time. It's all either/or. You see, for example .. the Persivul vs Wednesday + Ranger thing. If Persivul is town then Wednesday & Ranger become scum reads. If Wednesday is town that brings Ranger forward as town with Persivul demoted to scum read. Right now all 3 hold the same degree of "uncertain" in my view. I don't know which of them to take over the other, and while the reading eachother as town still doesn't bode well with me, the same applies to Persivul's "wholesale" of scum grouping, and especially so when I know my own alignment. However, you don't have to take my word for it. Still, does it seem logical to group 4-5 different players into the same faction?

[Almost50]

What reads would you get from a jackal town flip? Scum flip?

If he flips town then I maybe inclined to adopt you logic on RC/Ranger.
If he flips scum then YOU, my friend become highly suspect for defending him.

[RadiantCowbells]

PLS lynch Jackal.

Persy can be derpy as town.

[Frozen Angel]

What reads would you get from a jackal town flip? Scum flip?

If he flips town then I maybe inclined to adopt you logic on RC/Ranger.
If he flips scum then YOU, my friend become highly suspect for defending him.

if he flips town we can loose the game immediately ...

[Persivul]

What reads would you get from a jackal town flip? Scum flip?

If he flips town then I maybe inclined to adopt you logic on RC/Ranger.
If he flips scum then YOU, my friend become highly suspect for defending him.

if he flips town we can loose the game immediately ...

Uh, aren't you voting Jackal too? This is like when you left the Wednesday wagon first, then blamed the second person off it for ruining it. I really don't get your thought processes at times.

[Almost50]

if he flips town we can loose the game immediately ...

Not unless all 5-6 scum belong to the same faction. You're forgetting this is a multi-party game, so the win condition for every faction is to eliminate all other factions (as opposed to mafia vs town games when the mafia wins when they are more or equal to the number of town players remaining). Hell, even then if we have a vig, a PGO .. etc we still have a chance to come out on top through the night.