Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[Persivul]

Oh, but I did. I said I don't have definite scum reads at this time. It's all either/or. You see, for example .. the Persivul vs Wednesday + Ranger thing. If Persivul is town then Wednesday & Ranger become scum reads. If Wednesday is town that brings Ranger forward as town with Persivul demoted to scum read. Right now all 3 hold the same degree of "uncertain" in my view. I don't know which of them to take over the other, and while the reading eachother as town still doesn't bode well with me, the same applies to Persivul's "wholesale" of scum grouping, and especially so when I know my own alignment. However, you don't have to take my word for it. Still, does it seem logical to group 4-5 different players into the same faction?

See? Jackal doesn't come into play at all. You only think about his alignment when specifically asked about him.

[Persivul]

PLS lynch Jackal.

Persy can be derpy as town.

Thanks for the town read.

How about lane and flubber? Are they also derpy as town? I'd be first to admit they're better town players than me. I'm pretty certain they're town.

[RadiantCowbells]

umm

neither of them are particularly good town players tho imo

[Persivul]

umm

neither of them are particularly good town players tho imo

Do you town read them?

[Frozen Angel]

if he flips town we can loose the game immediately ...

Not unless all 5-6 scum belong to the same faction. You're forgetting this is a multi-party game, so the win condition for every faction is to eliminate all other factions (as opposed to mafia vs town games when the mafia wins when they are more or equal to the number of town players remaining). Hell, even then if we have a vig, a PGO .. etc we still have a chance to come out on top through the night.

oO yeah I never thought about that, in last game I got lynched day 1 and my only scum teammate died n1 so yeah I forgot scum wincon is to eliminate other factions and they can't win with majority vote ...

[Persivul]

The problem with a multiball scenario is, why wasn't Wednesday hammered?

[Persivul]

umm

neither of them are particularly good town players tho imo

Do you town read them?

[davesaz]

One possible scenario - the other kind of scum are on that wagon already?
Less than 16 hours with not much looking like it's going to move.

VOTE: Wednesday_

L-1 if I counted right.

[Persivul]

So, we need Frozen to switch back, or Starbuck to come back (doubtful).

[Frozen Angel]

Intent to hammer

But I need everyone to answer my question.

even RC

[Almost50]

The problem with a multiball scenario is, why wasn't Wednesday hammered?

This could be anybody's guess. Maybe the members of the two factions decided to go separate ways. Let me rephrase this: Maybe faction 1 members were already piled up on one lynch, with the other faction voting the other way. The town is divided and distracted, thus no majority reached on either.

OR, maybe one faction decided not to jump the wagon on either bc they didn't know if they will flip "other scum" or town, and didn't want to be on them in case they did flip town.

Yet again, maybe they're waiting for night action just like I am (oh, my. This one looks bad on me, but I'll say it anyway) in hopes they'd get some leads on who the other faction members are so as to minimize the chances of their own faction being killed.

Let's note that only mafia & WWs have factional kills. Cult -on the other hand- can die if they target scum, so they do need to preserve every town PR until they know who the scum are.

Now, if only 7 town players are in play, we maybe up against 2 mafia, 2 WW, 1 cult & 1 SK for all I know (THIS IS MERE SPECULATION, so don't take my word for it).

In sum, there is one reason or another why we don't seem to agree on one lynch target.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Wednesday

[Persivul]

So RC, how about those reads on lane and flubber?

[davesaz]

@Frozen answer to your question, I like to play because it's fun.

[Almost50]

That's a hammer, I believe. We're in twilight now.

[Frozen Angel]

@Frozen answer to your question, I like to play because it's fun.

you like to play what?

[davesaz]

Did I specify what? Answer given.

[Frozen Angel]

You like to play all 3 and you don't care then hmm

[Persivul]

Yeah, looks like a lynch, which is cool as I'm heading to the movies shortly.

[Persivul]

That's a hammer, I believe. We're in twilight now.

What do you think about RC's hammer?

[Frozen Angel]

That's a hammer, I believe. We're in twilight now.

What do you think about RC's hammer?

Can I answer as well ?

If by any chance wednesday flipped scum check RC. he like to hammer teammates...

[RadiantCowbells]

About that Wednesday flip D:

[Almost50]

I have to say I'm not happy with the speed RC jumped on to hammer. He was resisting a Wednesday lynch almost all day, yet when we started speculating about the reason why she wasn't hammered he jumped right on for it.

davesaz is suspicious to a much lesser degree. In fact, RC's speed hammer made it look suspicious. It would've looked pretty normal to me if there was a little gap between the two, or if RC let FA place the hammer instead.

Just had to say it now in case I don't make it through the night.

[Almost50]

@RC: The more I look at it the scummier it looks. We were in the middle of something here... trying to get a look at the greater picture, and FA already stated intent to hammer, so why did you even interfere???

[RadiantCowbells]

Relax.