So I want to flesh this out because I'm sold on the flip and now Lowell's flip that AI is scum. I read threads backwards on re-reads, so post order yada yada.
In post 966, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Anyway. The scum pool is:
Mathilda, Dierfire, Firebringer, Ira.
If I am missing one scum then Lowell.
2 issues: 0/2 and nice way to park his ass on vote after vote without needing explanation. Wouldn't be a problem if his reads were well developed but:
In post 929, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Agreed.
I have been re-reading Mathilda's other games (both town and scum), and I am still confident that she is scum.
Not that meta is completely reliable, but I think it is good as a confirmation.
This isn't 'well developed' at all. Did he actually read those games? Who knows. Point is, he hasn't given any reason WHY he believes Matilda to be scum. This makes it very easy to press a dishonest and indefensible assertion. Not only this, he asserts he's read multiple games! And not ONE point of analysis? Come on! Scumfuckery all around when you can't even explain why you think someone is SO SCUM that you say you see NO WAY that they're town.
Well big boy, she was town.
In post 869, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Hmm. I'm not sure. Inconsistency isn't necessarily alignment indicative. I know that I can be pretty chaotic.
But after having re-read Frozen Angel's ISO, I think I am putting her at null for now. Her reactions are just terrible.
(See there's nothing wrong with initially townreading people, as long as you can revise your reads on them.)
And this bullshit. So let's give context, AI generally keeps his cute little reads lists of super safe green reads and no explanation behind it that everyone for whatever asinine reason likes to say "Sure I agree with ___ but ___ is null/scum". Why the hell does no one say "Give me a goddamn reason"? Reads lists are absolute shit with no reason. They're not worth the time it took to copy and paste names and add fancy little colors because you know what? His reads are so damn safe and in line with the rest of the town that it's basically saying "HEY I'M A CONFORMIST EVERYONE IGNORE ME PLEASE".
So now coming out and putting FA to null, with NO REASON outside Mattp himself saying something? He even disagrees with it and then basically states "Whatever I disagree with your entire premise but she's still null". "Her reactions are just terrible"? Can you please be bothered to quote a post?
Oh and that snarky bullshit "Nothing wrong with townreading as long as you revise it" is hilarious considering that as scum, your town pool NEEDS to shrink so you can constantly lynch more. No, town are very, very consistent in reads and will have logic behind a change. Your change is the last thing from fluid, it is COUNTER INTUITIVE.
So this is one scum down. The next order of business is to go dig up Mattp's reads. It's good to NKA this kill due to possible mafia fear or reads or both. It's a real travesty when people simply ignore the reads of others. We can do it with Lowell as well but 99% chance that Mattp shot him.
