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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:34 am

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Here's another clue --
I'm town but I want to look scummy so I'm not NK'd
. And you should check my discard.
Then kindly pull your heads out and unvote.

Pedit: I make no assumptions about there being daychat, that's why.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:39 am

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In post 1000, davesaz wrote:
Here's another clue
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I'm town but I want to look scummy so I'm not NK'd
. And you should check my discard.
Then kindly pull your heads out and unvote.

Pedit: I make no assumptions about there being daychat, that's why.

You gave us a clue before?
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 997, davesaz wrote:My question about Jackal is based on a hunch that he's not mafia. Hence the way he could be scum would be if he's WW (and hence partner with Starbuck/Droog).
Remember in MB that scum teams hunt. Jackal as WW could rolecop FA and be telling his teammate (if there is another) that FA is likely town so said teammate (if any) can move on to other candidates for mafia.


there is no day chat as its written in wiki page ...

this was interesting ...

By nature of my rule I can say he as a ww he doesn't need to prove I'm town to his partner. but with this assumption he can be a mafia....

hmmm
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:43 am

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Was that supposed to be he can't be mafia?
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:58 am

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Oh boy a davesaz wagon

I like the guy but I hate his wagons

And my catchup resumes
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:00 am

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In post 838, Smithereens wrote:
In post 836, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait, I'm fucking alive?


could you explain the surprise?

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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:51 am

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I have trouble seeing FA discarding survivor to play town though.

Urgh.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:53 am

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In post 1003, davesaz wrote:Was that supposed to be he can't be mafia?


no ww

RadiantCowbells wrote:I have trouble seeing FA discarding survivor to play town though.

Urgh.


I discarded my only not town card. easy as that
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:58 am

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Why are you sure he can't be ww?
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:00 am

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In post 1008, davesaz wrote:Why are you sure he can't be ww?


that need me hardclaim
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:02 am

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*ROTFL* Like you have not already?? *Sigh*
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:03 am

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So, it's me, Blackstar & Flubber who have yet to claim their role and/or modifier.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:03 am

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I did?!
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:08 am

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Assuming I didn't miss anything I have this

Available Info

Alive
1. Frozen Angel - Discard Survivor, claim watchlisted
2. Almost50 - Discard Vanilla Cop, no claim early
3. Smithereens - Discard Werewolf Roleblocker, claim gravedigger, claim vig
6. Radiant Cowbells - Discard Bodyguard, no modifier claim, claim can't be lynched
7. Jackal711 - Discard Vanilla Townie, no modifier claim, claim Rolecop
8. Ranger - Discard Werewolf, claim miller modifier
9. Persivul - Discard FBI Agent, claim hirsuite modifer
11. BlackStar - Discard Cop, no claim
12. Flubbernugget - Discard Tree Stump, no claim
13. Davesaz - Discard Double Voter, no claim

Dead
4. Wednesday_ - Discard Mafia Jailkeeper, no claim, Flipped Survivor PI
5. Starbuck - Discard Hider, no claim, flipped WW FBI
10. lane0168 - Discard Cult Leader, Flipped town neighbor FBI

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Modifiers don't have any bearing on roles or alignments, roles are not necessarily natural for their alignments
Discards typically rule out the discarded role but don't rule out the discarded alignment (if given)
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:23 am

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In post 1013, davesaz wrote:Radiant Cowbells - Discard Bodyguard, no modifier claim, claim can't be lynched


But that IS the modifier, my friend.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:29 am

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Baka when did I claimed my role?!
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:39 am

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In post 847, Almost50 wrote:OK, 2nd part of my analysis:

-Wednesday was a 3rd party with the potential to be town-friendly.
-So, anyone who voted her is NULL (bc town don't know, while scum will know she's not with them)
-Those who didn't vote her are leaning town, bc scum will know she's not one of them.
-Starbuck is an exception. Early parked vote (RVS) could mean they're town or mean they knew dave was not scum.

It's making me willing to consider jackal for scum

The issue is how late the jackal wagon came after the wed/Ranger wagons
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:40 am

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In post 1014, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1013, davesaz wrote:Radiant Cowbells - Discard Bodyguard, no modifier claim, claim can't be lynched


But that IS the modifier, my friend.

Knowing RC, that isn't necessarily the modifier. There have been some other things I've seen him post which imply he means he won't be lynched if he claims.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:41 am

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Jackal can only be scum if FA is wrong about the implications of what he claimed.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 874, Jackal711 wrote:Alright. If my style is going to result in what amounts to a policy lynch due to its scummy nature, fine.

Current reads:
Ranger is town. RC is town. Based on my night action result, I believe FA is town.

UNVOTE: smithereens
Town for now.

Your style seems to be not scumhunting
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 1015, Frozen Angel wrote:Baka when did I claimed my role?!


You didn't "hard" claim, but your so-called "soft" claim is hard enough if I understand it correct.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:51 am

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actually the way he said I'm "probably town" means he is not mafia as well

I'm not even considering a Jackal lynch today
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:52 am

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In post 885, Persivul wrote:@ Flubber, smithereens (my current top town reads): do you think a massclaim would help at this point?

Massclaim breaks nothing as setup was "created" In the most loose term of that word

That's a really weak question that makes me wonder about your activity

On an unrelated note almost actually has reads now so fa may have been right about the scummy play style
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 1021, Frozen Angel wrote:actually the way he said I'm "probably town" means he is not mafia as well

I'm not even considering a Jackal lynch today

So I need the context for this but it reads scummy as hell
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:54 am

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In post 887, Persivul wrote:Lane was very interested in davesaz.

Lane's only danger to scum exists in how well he can look town. I've never seen him make a really effective push on someone before

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