Blitz 17: Netherspite's Blitz SORM II [Game over]

[Wisdom]

town has to use todays lynch to kill someone you really ought be able to tonight.
Playing the game with one less lynch than we could is also a risk.

It's not a risk lynching someone that we know is anti-town.
It is a risk allowing him to go to night and depend on anti-town factions to allow us to kill him before he recruits.

[Wisdom]

Still need to claim: Sensei, Persivul, Aristophanes.

[Sensei]

I'm town government.

[Wisdom]

Cool stuff.

[Wisdom]

Actually wait. All Government roles are confirmable. Can you confirm yours?

[rkvothe]

I'm at page 26. FA, I'm bus driver.

I had one terrible thought, all that AA said could be considered as trying to crumb info while post restricted? If that's so, why he wasn't modkilled or something? Idk, it just felt odd. I'll continue reading.

[AxleGreaser]

It's not a risk lynching someone that we know is anti-town.

yes there is no risk in lynching 3dice that we will be lynching town.

Doing that instead of you killing him, does give us one less town controlled kill.
I dont see any reasonable possibility of how an anti town faction can think stopping you killing him is in their favor.
if someone signed up for the game without for instance knowing what the setup entailed and now is just pissed of and certain they will lose, and they have the possibility of a "fuck you" play, I have known or seen people who might do it out of spite.
but I dont see that going down here.

I don't see a plausible problem with You killing the cult member tonight. I'd see fear and paranoia based reasoning, but not one that makes numerical sense.
It gets especially hard when the reasoning that all factions want you to kill the cultist can be posted in the thread for them to read.

[rkvothe]

If we can make a town action's map that ensures killing 3dice without fail, I'm in for that. If we can't, we should lynch him today.

I don't like the idea of lynching Aronis, might be smarter to shoot him to confirm if he's survivor or not. If we can add that up to the town actions for tonight, I find it smarter than outright lynching him.

I like FA for town, as well, she should make the action map and we can correct it together.

@AA you still want that no-lynch?

[Randomnamechange]

Yeah, I would be very surprised if you got NKed Wisdom.
this guarantees us the largest number of non-town deaths, and I'm not convinced aronis is telling the truth.

[rkvothe]

as in, we should use our lynch if we can meet all the criteria I posted.

I'd go for Persivul or Aristophanes until they claim.

[AxleGreaser]

Assuming I thought this through correctly.

I'm at page 26. FA, I'm bus driver.

If as the plan one tonights actions (an nk for instance) gets routed through someone you busdrive.
Then if the action winds up acting on the correct person, then we have it confirmed that either you and the person whose action was redirected are on the scum team or you are in fact a bus driver.

AKA pretty close to mod confirming you.
congrats.

Bugger,

Witch

can redirect.
Ah well no as close as i thoght but getting there.

Also post script.
yeah Ok we can lynch, 3Dice today. That is if you are worried a

witch

, might like the chaos that redirecting Wisdom would bring.

[AxleGreaser]

Yeah, I would be very surprised if you got NKed Wisdom.
this guarantees us the largest number of non-town deaths, and I'm not convinced aronis is telling the truth.

I think I found hole in my previous argument.
Witch wins if the town loses, they might like the chaos that would ensue, if they redirected Wisdom away from 3 Dice.

[rkvothe]

If we do have a mm in-game, writing up what my action will be on thread wouldn't be extremely dangerous?

[Wisdom]

I had one terrible thought, all that AA said could be considered as trying to crumb info while post restricted? If that's so, why he wasn't modkilled or something? Idk, it just felt odd. I'll continue reading.

That's true, ika has definitely done more than show he's blackmailed.

[rkvothe]

Or if I take an action at all... I'm feeling that I shouldn't have claimed.

[AxleGreaser]

If we do have a mm in-game, writing up what my action will be on thread wouldn't be extremely dangerous?

Thats the risk all targeting power roles take.

[rkvothe]

Then we should make it count. And we should plan my action to act on the scummiest people we find, so as if I die, at least I take some mafias with me?

[Sensei]

Actually wait. All Government roles are confirmable. Can you confirm yours?

Yea.

W e should probably lynch 3dice imo.

[rkvothe]

We've got a day left until deadline, though. We should wait if we can come up with some decent night action map, and then decide.

[Netherspite]

VoteCount 2.2

3dicerolling (5):

Frozen Angel, 3dicerolling, Errantparabola, hi im Yakko, Anxiety Attack

Aronis (2):

Aronis, randomidget

Not Voting (7):

Aristophanes, AxleGreaser, rkvothe, Persivul, Wisdom, Sensei, AlwaysInnocent

With 14 players alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-01-13 01:00:00)

[Wisdom]

So, ika is prolly scum, and not blackmailed.

[rkvothe]

Mmm, I don't know, there's always the possibility that Nether didn't considered their votes as crumbs.

Let's get some pressure on them

VOTE: AnxietyAttack

[Wisdom]

How can he not consider them as crumbs? He shared his category and even confirmed he is Jailor via using votes. What would be a "crumb" if not this?

[rkvothe]

Mk, my bad, skimming is bad.

We're looking at a probable kidnapper, then?

[Wisdom]

Yeah.