Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:56 am

This somewhat makes sense but it doesn't change the fact that FA is giving me terrible vibes.

urgh.

davesaz · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:57 am

Back up a second. Were there multiple Bus Driver claims, or was one of them a redirector?
I'm working right now so I can't go 100% on working this out for a few hours, but

I solve logic puzzles for a living

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Townfolk, please be very precise on what you're claiming to have done. Given that accuracy, I'll be able to figure out who can be lying and what their lies could be.
I'd appreciate if it's still day when I get off work.

Almost50 · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:58 am

So, Persy was targetted by both WWs AND the vig! You're most popular it seems, Persy.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:59 am

The fact there was NO ww kill confirms my heal

peace out RC

@baka no he wasn't ww targeted RC with me that made him both kill target and healed

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:02 am

OK, but

can literally every investigative in the game be on FA tonight.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:03 am

Rolecop was already

the rest are welcome!

and I know that i'm probably dead tonight so the fuck!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:04 am

argghh w8 a second

why you should be trusted ?

Persivul · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:05 am

In post 1277, Almost50 wrote:So, Persy was targetted by both WWs AND the vig! You're most popular it seems, Persy.

I'm usually fairly controversial.

davesaz · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:08 am

@FA

If RC really is macho, then your doc had no effect.
Unless your action didn't go to RC either. That's pending my full review which will be later.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:10 am

In post 1283, davesaz wrote:@FA

If RC really is macho, then your doc had no effect.
Unless your action didn't go to RC either. That's pending my full review which will be later.

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Almost50 · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:19 am

In post 1278, Frozen Angel wrote:@baka no he wasn't ww targeted RC with me that made him both kill target and healed

Oh, yes. Your protection was applied to Persy in fact though as he's the one who ended up in RC's slot.

But do you get confirmation of your successful protection in this game?? How do we know there was a WW attack on that slot?? The lack of a NK by WWs could mean one of a few things; INCLUDING an attack was made on the RC slot. It could've been directed on a "Retired Werewolf Hunter" (yes, I do realize nobody claimed that. I'm just listing all possibilities), or it could very well mean we had only one WW in Starbuck/droog who did not submit a night action, or it could've been directed at the Persivul slot and -for some reason- WW kills on WWs don't resolve/occur in this game. This last possibility applies to both action executed by another WW, or submitted by the lone WW slot (if droog did submit a night action).

Well, those are the ones I could think of, but there might be one or two more I've missed.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:21 am

there might be a bulletproof modifier on someone as well

or WW(s) might just have been lurked all the night or went on "no kill gambit"

yeah all possible. still doesn't change the fact that my role is town doc

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:23 am

for clarifying : No I didn't got any massages

Almost50 · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:23 am

In post 1279, RadiantCowbells wrote:can literally every investigative in the game be on FA tonight.

In post 1280, Frozen Angel wrote:and I know that i'm probably dead tonight so the fuck!

You're both forgetting I'm a Bus Driver with DOUBLE ACTION, not to mention the possibility of another Bus Driver in-play. Do you think I will leave FA as a sitting duck for anyone to shoot when I've concluded that she is CONFIRMED TOWN??

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:24 am

But still my protection is like the 90% probability here.

only ranger didn't claim at this point - I guess

Persivul · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:29 am

In post 316, Jackal711 wrote:UNVOTE: RC
VOTE: Ranger

I've seen Ranger as town, in a recent game. This doesn't read as his town game.

In post 816, Jackal711 wrote:
In post 803, Ranger wrote:
Persivul wrote:I think that's because Jackal is basically a policy lynch, so his flip won't really say anything.
This is also why Persivul is scum with Jackal.

I made it
VERY CLEAR
that Jackal was not being lynched for lurking.
Jackal was being lynched for acting like scum.
That statement still stands.

This is the same Jackal as Murder on Madness Mountain.
Persivul is acting towards Jackal similarly to how Rob treated Jackal.

They are scum together.

The only reason you're still alive is I'm town. If I were scum, WHICH I AM NOT, you would have been my NK choice.

Yes, you've seen my scum game. But my town game is no different.

That said, I'm willing to believe Ranger is town.

VOTE: smithereens
Uh, yeah.

What changed your Ranger read? What recent game were you referring to?

Almost50 · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:35 am

In post 1286, Frozen Angel wrote:still doesn't change the fact that my role is town doc

I don't doubt it now. I'm, trying to find explanations and draw out conclusions though. If you DID get confirmation it would've ruled out the possibility of RC being a WW completely (bc his slot was attacked by WWs). The fact that you didn't'don't get a confirmation note brings back RC on the table.

You see, you earlier hints lead me to believe you were a SEER. I had excluded the possibility of RC being a WW altogether. However, your "information" was not really "information" per se, but rather a conclusion based on reasonable facts, yet not 100% conclusive (and obviously it turned out to be the little %age of you being wrong is back in play). It is MUCH as the mistake I made when I was PGO in the Greater Idea Mafia we played together before (funny enough it was modded by none other than Kraeg)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:40 am

FA is very far from confirmed town.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:40 am

RC is very far from confirmed town.

Persivul · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:45 am

FA should be sortable tomorrow when we see the night actions.

Almost50 · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:18 am

In post 1292, RadiantCowbells wrote:FA is very far from confirmed town.

Let's inspect this statement analytically, shall we?

1-

FA is MAFIA/WW/3rd party killing role

: According to YOU she would've NK'd YOU. The fact that YOU (that's assuming BS is lying) AND Persivul (that's assuming BS is telling the truth) are both still alive tells us she didn't target your slot with a NK.

2-

FA is cult

: You & I are not culted, she definitely isn't cult.

3-

FA is a 3rd party non-killing role

: Not applicable. She discarded Survivour.

So, you see.. unless YOU are culted, I don't see how she is scum. Then again if you were culted you would not invite all investigative roles to inspect her and out her.

CONCLUSION: Based on YOUR OWN STATEMENTS; FA

CANNOT

be anything anti-town.

So, IF YOU'RE TOWN then PLEASE STOP messing with our minds, as the game is already super-confusing as it is and we don't need more confusion/distraction tossed in.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:19 am

Maybe she didn't kill me to throw me for a loop. It's not a trust tell or anything close to it; just a pattern.

Hell, what if her partner absolutely refused to kill me because they saw me as likely to get lynched / not a threat?

Persivul · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:32 am

Also consider the possibility of a gambit. Say FA is a WW doc. They forego a kill N1 to cement her as a town doc. If Jackal's in on it, the supposed rolecop investigation is a nice touch.

Jackal711 · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:33 am

@Persivul The game I'm referring to where I've played with Ranger was Blitz 15

He was town there, but as I was scum that game I saw things differently than if we had both been town. Based on his play THIS game, I currently think he's town.

I can confirm FA's doc claim from my night result. I was told FA "can protect a player from all nightkills during the night."

Almost50 · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:51 am

In post 1297, Persivul wrote:Also consider the possibility of a gambit. Say FA is a WW doc. They forego a kill N1 to cement her as a town doc. If Jackal's in on it, the supposed rolecop investigation is a nice touch.

That wouldn't be anything like the FA I know. If she's scum rest assured she will get her NK action every night.