Blitz 17: Netherspite's Blitz SORM II [Game over]

[AxleGreaser]

Start with claiming your category, at least, then you can read up.

yes do that you are days behind on doing that much, so as town just trutfully claim your category.

[AxleGreaser]

@ARISTOPHANES

Start with claiming your category, at least, then you can read up.

yes do that,

Aris

you are days behind on doing that much, so as town just trutfully claim your category.

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ebwop the who its too

[Netherspite]

VoteCount 3.2

Persivul (2):

rkvothe, AlwaysInnocent

3dicerolling (1):

randomidget

randomidget (1):

3dicerolling

Not Voting (6):

Aronis, hi im Yakko, Aristophanes, AxleGreaser, Persivul, Sensei

With 10 players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch someone.

The deadline is in

(expired on 2016-01-14 18:42:00)

[AxleGreaser]

I'd prefer not to get him to L-1 because a quickhammer will fuck us if he's town or neutral.

ANY HAMMER will fuck people as we need the cultist dead.
So no I wont YET be playing chicken with the scum team about the cultist....

That would be a last resort....

AKA Look at these for scaryyyyyyyyy (MAD Mutally assured destruction... based plays)

DONT LYNCH 3Dice AGAIN!!!! (Lynch the serial killer/MM.)
Town Shoot the damn cultist we know hes not bullet proof

No I am not advocating that yet, but if we get really desperate....

DONT LYNCH 3Dice AGAIN!!!! (Lynch the serial killer/MM.)
Town refuse Shoot the damn cultist... but I am pretty sure that would push it too far and scum might not shoot him either....
As I said i need to think...

I also have other potential scary plans ... (

Spoiler: LOL

Hint: dont put Axle in corner the Axe is not just for show. Ok maybe thats not funny but at 3:30am it loks funny to me.

[rkvothe]

Maybe I'm an idiot, but what are you trying to say?

That we should definetly lynch 3dice and our thoughts last day were stupid or that we should lynch mm/sk and kill 3dice at night?

[Randomnamechange]

I doubt 3dice targetted me. I think this because the optimum cult play for him is to successfully convert them claim failed conversion on a different player, mqking it appear the cult is dead when it isn't.

[Aristophanes]

Start with claiming your category, at least, then you can read up.

Town Power

Hey!
I haven't forgotten about this game, timing has just been bullocks.

I will read up and respond. May take a few hours though.

Don't bother.

...Why not?

[AxleGreaser]

Maybe I'm an idiot, but what are you trying to say?

That we should definitely lynch 3dice and our thoughts last day were stupid or that we should lynch mm/sk and kill 3dice at night?

Its 3am I may be an idiot.
If when we work it all out we are in deep shit because

the MM/Sk is bullet proof and so is the godfather.
The MM and godfather if both are left alive will/could kill two townies tonight.

if instead we lynched the suspected MM/SK and got it right...
and then had a town vig shoot the cultist/3D.

Then mafia only get to try and kill one townie tonight.

Then again as before scum don't really want to stop us killing the cultist.

That IS NOT my current plan, buts it the kind of insanity i will fall back to if town is backed into corner by
percivuls/sensei and Aris eventual posts.

[rkvothe]

@Randomidget

I haven't seen it that way, but it makes an awful lot of sense. Then, who do you think he targetted?

It's entirely probable that he tried to cult you and failed, though, let's don't discard that.

[AxleGreaser]

Town Power

From your role.
Do you have any idea how or why FA died?

[rkvothe]

@Axle and your thoughts on what random just said? One of us could totally had been culted, like AI, you or me.

And that AI and I haven't noted that earlier and agreed that 'the game was figured out' give us a nice layer of wifom.

We can always lynch Random and see if AI shoots 3dice to be sure we get a potential neutral killing and cult, just to be sure.

[AxleGreaser]

Town Power

From your role.
Do you have any idea how or why FA died?

To avoid leaving anything to chance if your role targeted FA in anyway you had better say so.

[Aristophanes]

Town Power

From your role.
Do you have any idea how or why FA died?

To avoid leaving anything to chance if your role targeted FA in anyway you had better say so.

I neither know why they died, nor targeted them at any point.

[AxleGreaser]

@Axle and your thoughts on what random just said? One of us could totally had been culted, like AI, you or me.

And that AI and I haven't noted that earlier and agreed that 'the game was figured out' give us a nice layer of wifom.

We can always lynch Random and see if AI shoots 3dice to be sure we get a potential neutral killing and cult, just to be sure.

Yep I thought about what he said quite some time ago.

I know I was not culted,
#1 and if someone else was culted we as town are quite probably just screwed so sit back and enjoy that ride.

#2 Random if he was town knew all along as a straight up fact 3D must be lying. How come it took so long to think hey 3d has a reason to lie.

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Im tired has random midget ever claimed his catgeory. i thought he had but i cant find it.

[rkvothe]

I think he claimed prot or inv

[rkvothe]

Protective here, don't trust FA with the night actions. I have enough experience to help wirh night actions but probably shouldn't be writing all of them up.

Yup, protective.

[Randomnamechange]

@Randomidget

I haven't seen it that way, but it makes an awful lot of sense. Then, who do you think he targetted?

It's entirely probable that he tried to cult you and failed, though, let's don't discard that.

Gun to my head, someone who claimed invest/prot

[AxleGreaser]

Things to know about he scum team.

They have a mafia deception, black mailer. (It is thus not possible that they have a beguiler.)

They have been performing a factional Kill at night.

@MOD

Unless there is something wrong The kidnapper role does not say it can perform the factional kill.

[rkvothe]

Damn, you're right about the beguiler stuff.

Then what happenned to AI's shot? That could mean:

a) Actually vig and something happenned to him. We know it wasn't a roleblock or a swap.
b) Never been a vig and fooled us.

[AxleGreaser]

EBWOP oops pressed submit by accident.
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Things to know about he scum team.

They have a mafia deception, black mailer. (It is thus not possible that they have a beguiler.)

They have been performing a factional Kill at night.

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@MOD

Unless there is something wrong The kidnapper role does not say it can perform the factional kill.

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We thus know they have a mafiaso or a godfather.

and then one of
Mafia Consort (role block, but none has claimed one)

Mafia Consigliere (investigator)
Mafia Agent (tracker)

Mafia Kidnapper (only jails on a no lynch)

based on lack of observed effects the two most likely are underlined.

We, desperately need an explanation for how FA died to a hail of bullets.

[AxleGreaser]

Then what happenned to AI's shot? That could mean:

Forget that ... how did FA get killed at all.

[rkvothe]

@random

So, it would have been between EP, you, AI, Axle, Aristophanes or me.

So:

a) Culted EP, and failed cause he died.
b) Culted you (as he said) and you're actually cult as well.
c) Culted you (as he said) and failed because you're neutral killing.
d) Culted AI, Axle or me.

From probability, imo:

a = c > d > e

[AxleGreaser]

persivul

it is very MUCh time for you to post now.

[rkvothe]

ebwop

a =c > d > a

[Persivul]

VOTE: persivul
VOTE: 3dice