In post 298, Gendaberry wrote:Still wondering why Jmo hasn't bothered voting for anyone despite apparently having scumreads.
In post 244, Karnage wrote:VOTE: mariomaniac
I think he is scum and that jmo is his partner. zulfy is the mafia traitor.
In post 202, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 201, Karnage wrote:In post 199, MarioManiac4 wrote:@Karnage; Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if examples were needed why have other people listen to me? How about you read your ISO instead of dismissing my points?
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut only 2 people out of 9 have actually listened to you and one of them is currently at L-2 so you haven't exacty made a compelling case.
*three out of eleven. lowell, genda,jmo. at least one of us is town, and can see it.
try again?
Why is he so sure that jmo is voting me when jmo wasn't voting for anybody at the time? my guess is mafia have daytalk and jmo said he would vote me but hadn't had the chance yet.
In post 244, Karnage wrote:
In post 219, Zulfy wrote:In post 200, MarioManiac4 wrote:
I don't like Zulfy either, mind you.I still like you babeVotes on the largest wagon (which is not scummy on its own btw) and then goes searching for a reason to justify it? That doesn't look good to me.Didn't do that +1He's also unusually interested in the Mafia's options (and he wasn't there at the start. I thinkthis could be a traitor signalif traitor knows what scum chose, or even if they don't- seems very concerned with the traitor right now.Mod; does the traitor know what the mafia chose?)LAMIST +1
Good questiontho and thank you mod for answering it
I think a traitor signal is exactly what it was and this was Mario's answer to it. Zulfy then responded in the affirmative to complete the communication.
call it OMGUS, I don't care. This wouldn't be the first time I was mislynched on Day 1.
Mario, if I'm scum, who is my partner? who is the traitor. You have had a total of 3 reads this entire game so far: Persivul as scum early, me as scum, and you "don't like Zulfy", Is everybody else town?
In post 275, Ricastle wrote:Well for starters, I really don't like this "scumping" thing you're doing. It appears to me like you're using it to create scumreads objectively without having to bear those reads on yourself. In other words, extremely cautious play that I can't see coming from town.
In post 275, Ricastle wrote:
239 is also quite bad. I was expecting you to have not read the whole game, but to have done so and not get any reads out of it?WIFOM, whaddaya want me to do?That's not town. As I said, it seems more like you are too paranoid that any reads you make up will be jumped on, to me.But I am making reads. Quality over quantity yo
And it seems like the only times you go on the attack are when you get attacked, as we can see with Mario & jmo.That's probably cuz that's when it's the easiest to reply.I also find it funny how one minute you're attacking jmo and the next you're explaining yourself to him.
I can do both. I should do both. Everyone should do both. I'm not going to cement the guy as my enemy and refuse to cooperate with him in any way. I have no firm reads, I need to get people's opinions on things. This is what a town-player does. This is what a mafia player trying to look town should do. Basically this is good play and everyone should emulate it.
And the traitor part is simply because I have this feeling that you know who both your partners are. I mean, I can't exactly name a third scum as of now, but your passive play seems more like you are not only afraid of upsetting town, but scum, as well.
In post 298, Gendaberry wrote:Still wondering why Jmo hasn't bothered voting for anyone despite apparently having scumreads.
In post 299, Lowell wrote:I notice the karnage wagon is stalling. No one really defending him, per se, just sort of stuck.
This is a good sign, IMO.
Two more, please.
In post 303, MarioManiac4 wrote:
My bet is that he said that he was scumreading you after my case. I never said it was votes.
In post 197, Ricastle wrote:I could go for Karnage, but I think that it would make more sense for him to have switched the way he did if he was bussing.
In post 202, MarioManiac4 wrote:In post 201, Karnage wrote:In post 199, MarioManiac4 wrote:@Karnage; Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if examples were needed why have other people listen to me? How about you read your ISO instead of dismissing my points?
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut only 2 people out of 9 have actually listened to you and one of them is currently at L-2 so you haven't exacty made a compelling case.
*three out of eleven. lowell, genda, jmo. at least one of us is town, and can see it.
try again?
In post 202, MarioManiac4 wrote:
*three out of eleven. lowell, genda, jmo. at least one of us is town, and can see it.
try again?
In post 300, Persivul wrote:In post 298, Gendaberry wrote:Still wondering why Jmo hasn't bothered voting for anyone despite apparently having scumreads.
Yeah, I checked his ISO again and that's a valid point. Some scum like to avoid votes in early game because it makes it harder to find associatives in late game. OTOH he said that just calling out a group of names is his playstyle and can be seen in his meta. Have you checked his meta?
If I hadn't, do you think I would have been at all confident in making that statement? You only have two completed games, anyway. In neither did you employ scumpings anywhere near as frequently.In post 306, Zulfy wrote:check my meta
How the fuck is that WIFOM?? To have absolutely no reads as town after these first 10 pages is incomprehensible to me, unless you're restrained or afraid somehow, either scenario not being town.In post 306, Zulfy wrote:WIFOM, whaddaya want me to do?
What reads? Come on, tell me. I want nothing more from you than some opinions on the gamestate right now.In post 306, Zulfy wrote:But I am making reads. Quality over quantity yo
Yeah, precisely. That's why scum do it.In post 306, Zulfy wrote:That's probably cuz that's when it's the easiest to reply.
There is a difference between not acting as if your scumreads are 100% confirmed scum, and both attacking and reasoning with a player in the same breath. What the latter indicates to me is that you know your attack target is town, yet you still need to get them off your tail.In post 306, Zulfy wrote:I can do both. I should do both. Everyone should do both. I'm not going to cement the guy as my enemy and refuse to cooperate with him in any way. I have no firm reads, I need to get people's opinions on things. This is what a town-player does. This is what a mafia player trying to look town should do. Basically this is good play and everyone should emulate it.
Regardless of your alignment, you are basically playing with a scum mindset here, so. If you're town it would do you good to learn from this.
In post 290, Ricastle wrote:I think it was pretty obvious that I was asking for the actual reasons why, bub.
And you're back on the scumlist.In post 315, SnarkySnowman wrote:Coincidence. I haven't had anything really to add, but I'm still here.
In post 318, Ricastle wrote:And you're back on the scumlist.In post 315, SnarkySnowman wrote:Coincidence. I haven't had anything really to add, but I'm still here.
In post 309, Marcrell wrote:In post 299, Lowell wrote:I notice the karnage wagon is stalling. No one really defending him, per se, just sort of stuck.
This is a good sign, IMO.
Two more, please.
Two more votes, cookies, what?
Also why is it stalling good?
Lowell just prodging and telling us to vote Karnage. Seems scummy, buf from what I can tell is also typical Lowell. Willing to vote if it continues, but for now isn't enough.
