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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:21 pm

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In post 55, MrTrow wrote:Given the 'completely random policy should the counter hit 3', NOs should be avoided. (at least a bit)

JDGA wrote:This is bad, if we avoid NO simply for the sake of avoiding NO we deny ourselves a
lot
of info while advancing the gamestate faster than we ought to.


As in mafia, our vote is the power of our uninformed minority. We shouldn't be afraid to use it if we suspect people even if it possibly moves us up the ticker.

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In post 62, ForWhomTheJellyRolls wrote:JDGA, I'm not sure I understand how Aronis makes the most sense at the time of your statement. Something just seems off about your post in . I don't like it.

His posts were short, but saying things I pretty much completely agreed with. Given you just said Trow was scummy because of how he posts a lot, you understand where I'm coming from, right?


Aronis had one statment of any substance at that point and a few others that were (I'm going to be diplomatic here) mostly trolling. So I don't see where you're coming from. I issue with Trow is that I think he's overthinking things. Throwing things at Shos to see what sticks and I disagree with the things he's saying.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:09 pm

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In post 75, ForWhomTheJellyRolls wrote:
In post 55, MrTrow wrote:Given the 'completely random policy should the counter hit 3', NOs should be avoided. (at least a bit)

JDGA wrote:This is bad, if we avoid NO simply for the sake of avoiding NO we deny ourselves a
lot
of info while advancing the gamestate faster than we ought to.


As in mafia, our vote is the power of our uninformed minority. We shouldn't be afraid to use it if we suspect people even if it possibly moves us up the ticker.

Are you agreeing with me or refuting me here? Because it looks like you're agreeing, but then why would you post it as a response to me...?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:13 pm

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On that point I am agreeing. I admit I buggered up the quote tags. That was intended as a response to MrTrow.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:10 pm

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In post 74, Blackberry wrote:Drench - if you go on a mission with Aronis and fail - would you investigate me?


no

considering nominating jelly now, since aronis doesn't really have support and personally i'd like to see us not waste failed nominations when we could easily avoid them
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:12 am

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In post 62, ForWhomTheJellyRolls wrote:I'm suspicious MrTrow that you talk a lot to obfuscate the truth.

In post 55, MrTrow wrote:A known issue with nearly everything i write (not just here), i'm working on it, if i screw up again, feel free to ask.

Yes this does mean i would like to see a question from you, soon. (the offer stands, regardless)
Should a decent response to this come, i'll probably support this chancellor

In post 69, JDGA wrote:
In post 55, MrTrow wrote:Given the 'completely random policy should the counter hit 3', NOs should be avoided. (at least a bit)

This is bad, if we avoid NO simply for the sake of avoiding NO we deny ourselves a lot of info while advancing the gamestate faster than we ought to.

As the quote states, it is 3 consecutive NOs that should be avoided.
Let me clarify:
Voting No, because you don't want the current candidate to be president, perfectly fine. I intend to do so myself in case of shos, by that time i hope for some others as well
Voting No, because the presidential candidate goes against your (or the entire towns) advice on chancellor selection, great ('merely ok' of the advice ignored is 'stating intent to nominate')
Voting No, because you showed up too late to argue against the 'intent to nominate'-target, shit happens, go ahead and vote no
Voting No, because you refused to state your concerns for no other reason than 'hey, i can still always vote no', bad idea. (an approach that was the game-state at time of writing (still seems to be), despite reasonable efforts by our candidate-president)

current gamestate, we can vote no on drench: not really a big deal, however then we have lilith, which leaves us with the choice, install lilith (yes) or hand complete control over to Klick (no #2), because voting no(#3) on Klick is a 2/3 chance of a facist policy and no information what so ever to show for it.

To argue we get more info out of the votes themselves, than out of the justifications (with which we already successfully denied a chancellor), i disagree

In post 72, Blackberry wrote:But after rereading their posts by themselves, shos I'm thinking is more likely overeager to get the game rolling.

That is the image he seemed to be going for when he asked the game to start and posting nearly instantly the moment it did (completely ignoring your post, which did contain content, to joke about the flavor) 2 days before deciding to actually read the game. All the while telling others to provide useful stuff to read without actually believing in it being usefull
I buy his eagerness to play, as much as i buy his scumreads in a gamestate of which he claims it is impossible to have scumreads yet.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:07 am

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guys stop fucking walling, MAKE A NOMINATION. has nobody played this before?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:24 am

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Pretend I said that, but nicer.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:49 pm

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@shos, literally no

nom jelly
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:38 am

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Finally
I will vote JA
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:18 am

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Please vote ja! or nein via PM for the government of President Drench and Chancellor For WhomTheJellyRolls.


Deadline: (expired on 2016-01-15 15:17:50)

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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:28 pm

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As previously stated, whether or not i support this chancellor is dependent of the chancellor's next post(s).
As for supporting this president, yes i do.
I think we have too little information to make this call on, but that decision too was a democratic one.
Mr president your position is hereby dependent of your chancellor.
Should a 'Ja' come from me without a clarification from the chancellor, that must mean i've given this too much time and missed the deadline.

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pretend i wrote:About the notion, discussing the nomination (aka D1) is something that should not be discussed and we should approach this in the face-to-face common style of blitz-play:
In post 15, Blackberry wrote:I do want to say, I haven't played this before, BUT I've watched several videos of it, and from what I've watched it's VERY easy for the fascists to win.

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2)
Nominate A Chancellor
All players may talk during this phase. This phase has a deadline of
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3)
Vote On The Government
All players may talk during this phase. This phase has a deadline of
48
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- The video-track-record of this game
- The rules in the opening post
- The very existence of the site we're playing on
All say you are wrong.

btw. 3 short reactions to 3 short remarks (which warrant reactions: a baseless accusation , a misread of a statement and an 'i'm not as confident in your read as you are') do not make a wall
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:50 pm

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GUYS
THE GAME NEEDS TO PROGRESS

vote ja.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:58 pm

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@shos: imagine i said but less nice
or consider answering any of the questions posed to you. (preferably both)
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:07 pm

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What exactly are you asking me MrTrow? I'm sure what to respond to.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:14 pm

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They are irrelevant.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:29 pm

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In post 86, shos wrote:GUYS
THE GAME NEEDS TO PROGRESS

vote ja.

what

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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:53 pm

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In post 88, ForWhomTheJellyRolls wrote:What exactly are you asking me MrTrow? I'm sure what to respond to.

You accused me of talking much to obfuscate the truth.
Which truth am i obvuscating?
Which text you think contains an obfuscated truth?
Or in simpler words: can you show me you weren't mudslinging?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:54 pm

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Why the hell would you vote YES to Aronis and NO to Jelly? ...
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:58 pm

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In post 92, Blackberry wrote:Why the hell would you vote YES to Aronis and NO to Jelly? ...

Gut. :P Jelly's coming off as trying too hard, honestly.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:04 pm

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I think you're trying to hard MrTrow. That's all I meant. You were going hard on shos and I thought you were trying to misdirect people to find him suspicious for reasons I didn't like.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:24 pm

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Jelly,

How do you feel about global warming?
What would be your plan to stop ISIS?
Do you believe global warming and ISIS are connected?

Also, you said my statements were 'mostly trolling', why should I even consider voting for you after you outright insulted me? And that also demonstrates that you were unwilling to reach across the aisle in a bipartisan attempt to form a government then, so why should I believe that you could reach across the aisle after elected or will you cast us off as trolls? Because I do not want a government that will not and can not act and I certainly don't want a government that is going to reject the will of the people and shove another obamacare-like legislation down our throats.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:29 pm

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Just because I disagree with your posistions doesn't mean we can't find common ground. However as I am a liberal I don't really need to reach across the aisle so to speak. If you think this is a bipartisan government do you suspect one of either Drench or myself to be a fascist and one a liberal?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:37 pm

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I am voting nein for Jelly's appointment as chancellor and suggest that my liberal colleagues do the same!

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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:23 pm

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Any particular reason?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:03 am

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Atonis, reason?
There is exactly one cprrect answer
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