Blitz 21 - Hope plus One ―kibou― [End]

[Mad King Ashnard]

Everyone need to stop misrepping my Plotinus push.

[Wisdom]

I will continue telling you you're tunneling everytime you mention it.

[PhantomCobalt]

Sakura is also town for word choice in my gut

[Wisdom]

Your gut is bad

[Sakura Hana]

I will continue telling you you're tunneling everytime you mention it.

Your gut is bad

^
Scum trying to discredit

[Wisdom]

totez

[Mad King Ashnard]

I think Ashnard getting paranoid that Plotinus can read Raskol means that we'll try to lynch them is completely ridiculous and just trying to poison the well.

This is exactly what it comes down to.

The crux of this is that there was a ridiculously early comment by the Plot hydra to the effect that 'well we're going to ignore RC and sort Raskol.'

And they're claiming to be able to sort Raskol, and on top of that are ALREADY CLAIMING TO BE SCUMREADING ME 8 fucking pages into one of the towniest games I've ever played.

Since we've already established and I've proven through prior thread context, Plot thinks that they are able to mislynch me.

On top of this, Plot at the very least would be more than concerned about leaving me alive as town and would seek a way to get rid of me after I made his scum team lose night in our last game.

It is no fucking coincidence that all this happened this early in the game.

It is no coincidence that there are a few people mudslinging my slot in ways that don't really make sense.

Plot is scum. We are not unvoting for the rest of the game, short of a cop inno.

If they decide to townread Raskol it's simply because they know the fallout from trying to lynch me is more than they can handle; nothing more.

Scum planned to try to mislynch me based on RC paranoia and trying to take advantage of Raskol being easily misread; I promise you.

I will continue telling you you're tunneling everytime you mention it.

That's exactly what the fuck everyone told me when I was nailing Shos into the ground last game or in any other manner of games where I've been right about a scumread that everyone else was townreading at the time.

They are scum.

[Mad King Ashnard]

Like I will lynch anyone who claims cop tomorrow who doesn't claim to have a report on that slot, and if no cop claims with a report on that slot we're lynching them automatically.

[Mad King Ashnard]

And I don't fucking like Wisdom either and I think it's nasty that they keep trying to pin this as a TvT.

This isn't TvT at all.

[Wisdom]

And they're claiming to be able to sort Raskol, and on top of that are ALREADY CLAIMING TO BE SCUMREADING ME 8 fucking pages into one of the towniest games I've ever played.

Since we've already established and I've proven through prior thread context, Plot thinks that they are able to mislynch me.

They're not scumreading you, and they're not trying to mislynch you.

Bye.

[Sakura Hana]

yeah, i dont like how Ether's been answering the questions either...

[Mad King Ashnard]

Do you want me to make a list of the different times they've tried to mudsling my slot?

Here, have one.

[Antihero]

IM TOWNREADING RC AGAIN ISNT THIS ROLLER COASTER FUN?

also im sad that there isn't a vig bullet phantom can eat.

[Scatterplot]

Hi, Ashnard!

Sakura, I don't really have an answer! You can call it gut if you want, but it's the kind of gut where if I try to explain it now, I already know that it'll just end in a godforsaken mire of "but I don't REALLY know Sakura's town, this is all very preliminary and there's not much I can really explain when I try to spell it out" and I hate doing that.

-Ether

[Wisdom]

RC, this is TvT TvT TvT. The only thing you are achieving is scum latching on to your stubbornness in order to push town.

Like this:

yeah, i dont like how Ether's been answering the questions either...

[Sakura Hana]

Why didnt just say gut before then, instead of just going into a weird explanation of why you didnt want to answer.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh look, like usual wiscum coming to try to overturn everything i say into something scummy.

[Scatterplot]

When I scumread you in 1656, that was also a gut read up until I took the time to pull a five-paragraph case out of it. "Gut" means something different for me.

-Ether

[Antihero]

ETHER ETHER ETHER

what are your reads?

i think you already said them but plz say them again so i dont have to go back

[Mad King Ashnard]

I'm kind of tired of figuring out what my reasons for everything are and being introspective. Maybe later.

Not the point again but this is another time they're refusing to explain reads.

I am not actually convinced that us/Ashnard is TvT. I think Ashnard getting paranoid that Plotinus can read Raskol means that we'll try to lynch them is completely ridiculous and just trying to poison the well.

What the fuck does this mean? I think that they're scum, I'm not paranoid about anyone trying to lynch me. you can't. This response doesn't even answer to the heart of the issue at all and is just a mudsling.

I know that you said you were only scumreading the Titus head in that game. If you're town and you're worried about that happening again, then you should know that Ether hasn't had a scumgame since 2009 and so she'll probably be pretty easy to read!

No, I only shot you over Talah because of Titus.

You were pretty effing far from a townread and I'm seeing the exact same shit in this game.

we're arguing because you're too impatient to let me do my own thing and want to get in my way. You also know very little about how I scumhunt or how I think, and you think that things you dont understand are scummy. You have played with me twice: my very worst town game that maybe i was dead in by the time you replaced in anyway but it was back in June so i don't really remember, and a scum game that I was barely present for, and you even know why I was barely present for that one but you make it out to be scummy that I don't remember large swathes of it.

I understand your motivations a lot better than I think you realize.

I could have mislynched you in that game when 8/12 people were suspicious of you, yes. Like if you look at the 12 living players ISOs and skim the tail end of them for what their reads are, their last opinion of of your hydra was that you were scummy, so yes, I did think that, with effort, I could have mislynched you in that game.

8 of the living players who were about to realize that I had just spent the entire day tunneling on a scum PR that would essentially be +1 scum. yeah.

Why the fuck do you care so much about the fact that Ether and I came to independent mild townleans on a slot that you either don't know how to read or don't want to pretend to put in the effort of trying to read?

This is implying that me asking for an explanation is scummy, fyi.

Why are you so frightened that I want to read you by your other head?

Why did I literally talk to Raskol about exactly this happening and how we're going to deal with it?

Rask don't be a dicks to Anti because I have been looking forward to playing with him.

We're playing with quotes from the character, and it was extremely obvious and Anti would have known that.

And I don't see why I should bother when I can tell you and Rask apart and I'm confident I'll be able to read ask.

Aka free license to claim a scumread on Rask later if it becomes opportune without having to worry about it being consistent.

And I know that you rely heavily on associatives as town, as do I (though I usually try not to give into the siren song of preflip associatives this early into day 1), and I don't see why you wouldn't incorporate that into your scumgame if possible.

Look at me going into associatives in my scumgame by ASKING WHY YOU HAVE A TOWNREAD ON SOMEONE.

Why do you care that I'm townreading the low hanging fruit and why is it relevant that my hydra partner (a different one, not Ether), townread a town player she knew well and had played dozens of games with in a different game?

1) I systematically don't push low hanging fruit.
If they get lynched later in the game that's their concern. This is true of both my town and my scum play.
I asked WHY.

Now i don't know if we want to vote talah or ashnard. I think i'll be able to read the other head of Ashnard more easily though so I think I'll wait for him to start posting and:

Aka for asking for an explanation of a read we became a top 2 scumread.


So yeah, pretty shitty mudslinging from that slot that again, doesn't make sense at all considering what we did was ask for information.

RC, this is TvT TvT TvT. The only thing you are achieving is scum latching on to your stubbornness in order to push town.

Like this:

I'm not scumreading either of the two people who jumped on.

I am scumreading Scatterplot.

[Mad King Ashnard]

Mod, do I have permission to quote a block of text from skype?

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sakura Hana

[Mad King Ashnard]

Oh and FYI here's a quote from 1750.

the Elsa head would be easy enough to read because she's a fairly new player

So literally the exact same logic is being used, except they didn't end up being able to push on us because we were obvtown until we ate into most of our towncred trying to figure out why Shos wasn't getting lynched.

[Wisdom]

Oh look, like usual wiscum coming to try to overturn everything i say into something scummy.

Hey Sakura, I just checked to be sure: You've played with scum-me just twice, and in both games I was townreading you. So where is this coming from?

[Sakura Hana]

I think Wisdom didnt like me catching him in Tarot and has been trying to shut me down early this game.
Considering what i read on the Scum PT from that game where everyone considered me a "non-threat" and then surprised them later on.