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FakeGod Seven-Colored Puppeteer
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You can beat rengar with teamwork!
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SleepyKrew he/himSnark Attackhe/him
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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SleepyKrew he/himSnark Attackhe/him
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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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In post 47566, Iecerint wrote:If it's just Yi, verbally command the most reliable cc on your team to save it until yi reengages.
Fiddlesticks was just buffed!Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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Cabd QT Sniper
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Iecerint Survivor
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In post 47576, SleepyKrew wrote:I absolutely cannot wait to see how riot fucks up the new client
Did they tease it somewhere?-
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Iecerint Survivor
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In post 47576, SleepyKrew wrote:I absolutely cannot wait to see how riot fucks up the new client
Did they tease it somewhere?-
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SleepyKrew he/himSnark Attackhe/him
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Iecerint Survivor
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RayFrost Survivor
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PJ. Hell in a Cell
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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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In post 47586, RayFrost wrote:According to the stats myko posted, I have not improved as a player since season 3.
Feelsgoodman.
I think that would be the wrong conclusion. You improved at the same pace as the people in your elo.Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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JasonWazza Jack of All Trades
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Actually Myko that's mostly just inherently wrong, and in fact if Ray is right, it's actually possible it's a decline in skill (hear me out)
So basically there will always be Elo inflation, because a 50% win rate will make you climb (not quickly but it will) meaning if you are at your Elo (and assuming everyone is, this will be the case) you will climb, which means if your staying in the same percentage area it's probably a non-change in skill, and if everyone has this case, then everyone will slowly climb the ranks, moving the whole Percentage up in rank.
However that said, this isn't including the addition of more players to league ranked, as it's percentage based this means they the amount of players in the top x% increases, which means staying in the same percent could even be a decrease in skill level over the time.
That said the addition/changing of ranking systems also means that this data may be slightly inaccurate to an extent as well.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Papa Zito Jack of All Trades
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In post 47586, RayFrost wrote:According to the stats myko posted, I have not improved as a player since season 3.
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I prefer to think of it as "if I just hold steady I'll be diamond soon"KappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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RayFrost Survivor
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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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In post 47589, JasonWazza wrote:which means if your staying in the same percentage area it's probably a non-change in skill
I don't think that's correct? The change of percentile will always be relative to the entire population. Now your assumption is that the population as a whole does not improve. Sure there's a group of new players, but there's also a solid group of players that have been with us since the start. Every year they got more experienced, learned new concepts, etc. Everybody got better at this game after a year.
So RF shouldn't be too down about it :/
PEDIT: I take this back. I am in my last game of provisionals, and this year, it hasn't gone well. 4-5 down and I am coming from low gold so I know I'm looking at mid/low silver here with the soft reset (indeed, got placed in s4). Guess who's on the opposing team I have concrete evidence Rayfrost got worseSurrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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JasonWazza Jack of All Trades
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In post 47592, RayFrost wrote:Yeah I'd like to think my skill hasn't changed since the time I was playing on 20 fp with a touchpad and was gold. I've just gotten worse since getting a mouse, having a consistent 200+ fps, and a more consistent internet connection with fewer ping spikes.
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2. How do you go from Gold playing on a touchpad to only increase to plat, that is actually rediculous in my mind, and says you are really good at using touch pads (or that there is a huge skill difference between Gold and Plat.).
3. What i said was the pesmisitic way of looking at it, and was discussing it basically in a vacuum where people don't actually improve/get worse.
mykonian wrote:I don't think that's correct? The change of percentile will always be relative to the entire population. Now your assumption is that the population as a whole does not improve. Sure there's a group of new players, but there's also a solid group of players that have been with us since the start. Every year they got more experienced, learned new concepts, etc. Everybody got better at this game after a year.
Honestly i see very few people that "get better each year", this may come down to my friend group and the parts of the player base i regularly interact with, i feel like the players that get better and climb tend to be the edge cases and that there tends to be more complacent people that don't intend to actually get better at the game.
That being said i'm not saying no one improves from playing this game, but to actually improve to the point where your Elo change will be decent (say you're increasing faster than the average percentage) you actually have to put the effort in and make yourself better at the game.
And not to mention that these numbers are also Skewed by the number of Smurf's that exist.
As a final point, i am not at all saying that RF didn't improve, i don't believe that a single bit honestly, however that really means 1 of 2 things.
1. He doesn't play enough ranked games to actually reach his Elo
2. The parts in the game he has improved in, aren't actually going to increase his Elo (quickly)Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Ser Arthur Dayne Jack of All Trades
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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Iecerint Survivor
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I had it glitchy while the queue was online, but no issues since it went offline.-
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