In post 1424, Gorkington wrote:im sorry q.q i do feel like rc is someone that i generally would rather not touch earlygame but maybe i'll feel otherwise when i isodive.
i would usually agree w/ you just b/c i think rc is a good person to have around to figure things out but the shit he's pulled this game is just frustrating
The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
Plotinus and I are actually buying Ashnard's line about bussing.
I realize that nobody is listening to a word I say and anytime I happen to be right about something it's just scum having inside information because I couldn't possibly believe my own reasons and whine whine whine, but there you go.
In post 1430, Scatterplot wrote:Plotinus and I are actually buying Ashnard's line about bussing.
I realize that nobody is listening to a word I say and anytime I happen to be right about something it's just scum having inside information because I couldn't possibly believe my own reasons and whine whine whine, but there you go.
oh the irony
fb wagon: firebringer is scum.
pooh poohers: nah lets vote somewhere else itll be rad
firebringer flips scum
pooh poohers: oh well it had to be a bus. LOOK ALL THE BUS MASTERS
fucking really?
The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
thats not what im saying, anti. i'm saying that Ashnard specifically would not have tried to derail the kt wagon if he were scum. he would have bussed him and been done with it.
My main scumreads are all off the wagon actually, which is statistically unlikely. Phantom looks worst on the wagon, though.
In post 1436, Scatterplot wrote:thats not what im saying, anti. i'm saying that Ashnard specifically would not have tried to derail the kt wagon if he were scum. he would have bussed him and been done with it.
this is based on...
The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.
Actually, I don't think Firebringer was bussed. Or at least not persistently or before the last minute; I know Wisdom spent at least some time on Firebringer and moved off.
Hi, Gorkington! I basically did not give a shit for most of Day 1 and let Plotinus do all the work and the few reads I did have from that are vestigial and blurry and I've pretty much ditched all of them anyway, so we kind of have that in common. We can talk now, if you want!
In post 1299, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Literally THE SOLE EXCEPTION to that rule is in 1739x, where I was considered confirmed scum and was pushing on someone that I believed was going to flip scum (and was right).
I don't defend my partners. I bus them or I ignore them.
My style isn't exactly a secret to anyone who knows me and I didn't change it for this game to defend KT.
I already knew that he had that reputation, and while I haven't looked through
all
of his scumgames yet, his story does check out from what I have seen.
I agree that Ashnard's been antitown this game but I think he's more likely to be town than not.
pedit: I don't think he would lie about his self meta. I've seen him claim similar things in games where he was town. For example:
In post 409, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) I would never have done what I did with a scumpartner of mine. If I was gonna bus, I'd bus. If I was gonna defend her, I'd defend her.
which is pretty much how I play as well so it's believable to me. I think town are more likely to be unsure and get cold feet whereas scum don't want to ruin any towncred they might have gotten for bussing by suddenly being unsure. And yes I know that's a partial self defence as well but it is what it is. The purpose of weak players who aren't going to make it to end game is towncred. RC did not interact with KT/Firebringer in a towncred maximising fashion.
This doesn't mean he can't be scum, but it means he's less likely to be and that he's chosen this game to play against his meta for some reason and chose KT of all people to go out on a limb for. For these reasons i'm not interested in pursuing Ashnard as a scumspect even though I do wish his hydra partner were participating in the discussion given that he's posting elsewhere on the site.
In post 1443, Scatterplot wrote:which is pretty much how I play as well so it's believable to me. I think town are more likely to be unsure and get cold feet whereas scum don't want to ruin any towncred they might have gotten for bussing by suddenly being unsure
That's not how I play. In Ether's Blitz I hard defended my buddy saying that he was chosen and scum were manipulating us into lynching him. Town lynched him anyway and then I spent the rest of the game saying that I would absolutely not defend my buddy like that and that I would have bussed him. The exact same thing RC is doing.
That is indeed a defense you used! I don't know if it's actually
true
that you have any specific pattern toward bussing your scumbuddies, or just a thing that you said in that game. I know that you do bus sometimes, but obviously it's not consistent or you would have bussed LucianRoy.
RadiantCowbells
does
have a reputation for consistently bussing, and checking his past games gives that some actual weight.
