Newbie 1671 - Game Over (Scum win)

[Plotinus]

Congrats camn and pignash.

Please sheep the reads of people who die especially the ones they're confident about (like my townreads on franksa and kuroi).

Here's my IC confessional PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=64608

my confessionals are better when i'm scum because i have a better grasp on the game state, sorry.

Anyway let me know if you want IC stuff.

[tictac]

Ya, sorry for ignoring you on Kuroi. I did honestly try to see it, but just couldn't.

[RadiantCowbells]

Kuroi had several D1 posts that bled attempting to solve the game.

I can find some of them for you.

[Jackal711]

Mafia PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=64614
Graveyard: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=64615

Night Actions:

Night 1
Cop (Rask): Plotinus (No result due to death)

Mafia Kill:
Pignash kills Raskolnikov

Night 2
Mafia Kill:
camn kills Plotinus

[Plotinus]

it's okay. I thought he was the doctor, so I was wrong about that. It would make sense if he was looking for the cop if he was the doctor, and so I was trying to protect him thinking he was a PR. + some other newbie tells. it's not your fault, lylo is hard. i voted wrong in my last lylo, too.

[RadiantCowbells]

And tictac, there's a saying where I used to play that replacements are almost always a godsend for whichever team that gets them.
You were cherry picked of all the town to be brought to LyLo for a reason.
I was not.
They had control over the set of reads you were bringing to the table, they had no control over mine.
It's something to keep in mind when you get to a late game situation.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if you make it to LyLo as someone who is not likely to get lynched the first question you should ask yourself is
"why am I here?"

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry Plot, but I wasn't really feeling so much confidence in my reads and I didn't feel like getting into a huge fight with tictac over the days lynch.

Should have stuck to my guns.

[camn]

I AM SO SORRY EVERYONE!

My promise was no problem, Cowbell.. I always feel SO WRONG as scum. The deception kills me with anxiety.

That said- good game everyone.
Good replacement, Cowbell- you had us pegged.
I was pretty sure you were going to beat us, and I was bummed because I had sculpted the town so carefully into one I could control. I actually told myself- "self, thats what you get for allowing a lurker into endgame. you should have killed franska and kept Plotinus on the hook."

Special apologies to Cobolt and Sarg- I bullied you guys and I didn't mean a word of it!

[tictac]

Eh, it's okay camn. I'd be pissed if you didn't try to screw us over as scum.

[camn]

Like if you make it to LyLo as someone who is not likely to get lynched the first question you should ask yourself is
"why am I here?"

PS- this is SO TRUE.
Everyone there was there because I thought I could manage them.

Since this is a newbie, I am committed to general improvement. As such-
Pig- are you OK with opening our DayTalk?

And if any newbs have any questions, I am happy to try and answer.

[Plotinus]

the last time i was alive in 3p lylo i was a pseudoinnocent child and i assumed i was there to mislynch my scumread especially because my townread was really pushing him hard but the mislynch bait was scum after all D:

but *usually* "why am i here" is a very important question to ask yourself.

[camn]

oh- I see the Mafia talk is already published!

PS:

You guys will regret this!

Obvious Newbie Power Role Softclaim

[Jackal711]

I find it interesting to note that both scum were on the final wagon, but the hammer vote was placed by a townie.

Good game everyone, thanks for playing.

[Plotinus]

Thanks for modding, Jackal!

[camn]

And yeah, plot.. in the absence of people who simply had my number... There was no way we were letting you live. Especially after we figured the setup.

[camn]

Ha ha.. Rask knew he gave it away.

I swear it must have been plotinus picking up on a minor detail, such as me saying they'll regret it if they continue voting me.

[Plotinus]

sending out PR in distress tells like that can be good if you're in a town that can recognise them and back off your lynch before it gets serious, or if you're trying to attract a doctor, but it can also be pretty bad if you've got someone who's looking for them on the scumteam (and if there had been a doctor he would have attracted a roleblocker too)

[camn]

Agree.
You actually got me looking at him pretty hard when you thought he was rolefishing.
We tried to set up you and/or tictac for it later.. but it didn't pan out.

[Plotinus]

sorry, Rask! I was trying to crumb it to tictac without you guys being able to understand what I was saying about him; I didn't translate until he was already dead. And I was hoping to either draw the nightkill for crumbing shit.

When I'm scum the amount of information town freely and willingly gives away about their roles without us having to rolefish at all is astonishing. I sometimes wonder if they are aware that the scumteam can also read the public thread.

[camn]

It would have worked in a straight newbie, maybe?
Although I am sloppy and rusty.. I certainly have played a few games :/

[RadiantCowbells]

I just wish I knew how to convince people.

I've never been good at that.

[tictac]

I just wish I knew how to convince people.

I've never been good at that.

The stuff you said at dusk was alright + you just interacting with camn was helping.

[tictac]

Killing frank instead of Plot would have been a good move. I'm pretty sure I'd have spent LYLO trying to lynch them.

I'm surprised pig pushing me was an actual mafia plot. I thought he just did that cause it was something to do.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm sure I can do more as a better player. This is my first full game on MS. If you have suggestions for me to be a better player, I'm all ears.