Blitz 21 - Hope plus One ―kibou― [End]

[Ankamius]

I dont know where the town reads even came from.

I guess there's no point in hiding this anymore, but I have a tell on her. She tries to actively sort me as town since she knows I'm not very strong at faking engages as scum. She tries to stay out of my way and avoid engaging me as scum since she knows she can't hide from me in the same fashion.

Her play this game early on is to do the null vote on me early on, then makes an awkward case on me when I start to pressure her and avoids talking to or about me again. That's her scum response, not jher town response.

I'll also note that she's easier to read very early on and her posts in the first few pages feel much more similar to that one touhou upick that she was scum in than in alfred hitchcock.

[Antihero]

You know what, I don't really have the motivation to show why

Sakura Hana

is town. Sakura just is. I suppose I can point you to 775, where a talah/KT/Ankamius scumteam was proposed (not bad), 816, the very town nature of Sakura's replace out...if you don't see it, then I'm sorry. Sakura's just town, so...leave it at that.

no, all this stuff is null and it should be telling that this stands in pretty stark contrast to your analysis on your other town reads

[Gorkington]

^^^^^^^

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Titus

w/e

I still think MKA is a better bet for scum but I Titus needs to actually do things other than vote park me

[Titus]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Hi.

why is this a thing.

Titus if you want to live vote for MKA

You got scumbuddies who can murder or lynch me?

I don't see any real reason to vote there. You want my vote, tell me why.

this is pretty much exactly what i expect from scumTitus.

*attempts to obvtown*

Error: File does not exist. Like no on ever calls me obvtown.

What do you think of spiffeh gork and wisdom?

also pretty much exactly what i expect from scumTitus.

bummed that it seems like sakura did a scumAtE replace-out.

Cuz he was in my suspects from when I subbed in looking at the VCs when I subbed in.
You have no idea what scumTitus is. You're just throwing lines out in confbias or to prevent from actually giving reasons.
Gork and Wisdom need to do something else to inspire confidence in the reads here. Wisdom has been prototypical loud obnoxious townbeard (wrong yesterday wrong today) but we the purple gives me pause. Gork isn't even trying. In 1527, he acts like my questions to him to engage him don't even exist.

So let's try it again, you got any reads Gork?

[Titus]

i really want to call ranger town cause she feels different from mafiaception. but that sakura read is really bad. titus is literally playing exactly the same as she was in mafiaception. saying sakura "was just town" doesnt cut it anymore.

Dude, if you're going to reference my meta, don't die about it.

First, you imply my scumgames are like robotic. Please. I literally just finished fooling you and Ank as scum.
Second, I came in, did something to get reads off the ground (mini VCA) and falling in line behind the wagon in my list until I can get reads.
Third, in mafiaception I still tried to lead wagons. Here, I am trying to just say ok, here's where I am y'all pick till I get caught up.

[Spiffeh]

Ok so why are you voting for me

[Gorkington]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Hi.

why is this a thing.

[Gorkington]

i get that mana was a game that happened. and theres obviously a blindspot in my ability to townread you accurately. im pretty confident in my gutpings when you are scum though. and this pushback on wisdom and i is just really really bad. like. do you really want to do this? i dont want to make this game miserable for you q.q

[Gorkington]

like, to be clear. im super busy with work right now. but the moment i get even a free second in this game and some motivation, im going to be really obviously town. now, i think youre scum here and i think youre going to swing this typical angle of "gork is scum for pushing me yadda yadda". this is me just saying that if that is the case, you should really really consider if thats what you want your strategy to be. because i dont want to make you have a bad time. but yeah. if youre town and this is a legit suspicion then whatevs live your life, but your questions to me are bad and you need to explain the spiff vote.

[Titus]

I explained the Spiffeh vote in 1554. Sorry if it's not the explanation you want but it's the truth, he's in my suspect pool. He has a wagon and all he's doing is whining I voted him.

There will be no magical unicorns or anything else until I beat this flu if I live that long.

[Gorkington]

Cuz he was in my suspects from when I subbed in looking at the VCs when I subbed in.

why.
words.
give them.

He has a wagon and all he's doing is whining I voted him.

ok.
and why is whining scummy.

[Gorkington]

^please.

[Titus]

1) my mini VCA had a suggested few suspects. One had a wagon. I voted it. There's only so many ways to repeat myself.
2) whining alone isn't scummy. It's the total lack of scumhunting Spiffeh is doing. There's no fight back, no reads discussion. He threatened me once to try and vote MKA which I refused to vote. No Followup. He votes me yet gives no comment on that.

[Titus]

2) whining is a personality tell. I realized that came out wierd but hit the wrong button.

[Wisdom]

wrong yesterday

nope

[Gorkington]

can you explain the mini vca.

[Titus]

can you explain the mini vca.

Sure. Give me a minute though. I am going to try to be clear but I know I am not at 100%.

If it's not up in an hour, it'll be up in 4. I have a doctor visit.

[Titus]

OK. Let's see here. Initial impressions time.

Anti is town more than likely unless Ocean is scum.
Ocean slot more likely than not is town.

Wouldn't mind a phantom trebuchet or ank lynch.

Now to read things beyond iso of the mod.

Ok, these are my conclusions.

Generally, when I conduct a VCA, I give great deference to the counterwagons to scum. In this case, my slot happens to be said counterwagon and I know I am town.

There's also a counter to KT with the Talah slot (yours). Possible s v s wagons, sure. I got no interest in that wagon though.
Scatter plot also counter to the KT wagon.
Expedience is also counter.
So was my slot.

That behavior strongly suggests scum are lynch shopping.

TrebuchetMS, now Spiffeh, spent most of the time in the middle, which is my sweet bus zone of death, only to hop off to the Sakura wagon towards the end.
Ank spends a good chunk of time on the counter wagons, same with Wisdom. Wisdom was voting ktcreeper earlier though,something he never really did in we the purple.
Phantom slot never was offered as a lynch alternative despite being new and lynchbait a lot.

[Gorkington]

why was spiffeh alone your focus? you literally just said that ank and other people on the wagon are questionable. and then called me scummy despite my slot being a potential counterwagon and dismissing it with "meh idc about that".

[Titus]

why was spiffeh alone your focus? you literally just said that ank and other people on the wagon are questionable. and then called me scummy despite my slot being a potential counterwagon and dismissing it with "meh idc about that".

Spiffeh alone isn't my focus. I don't get that. He has a wagon out of my list. If phantom got a wagon, I would have voted there.

I am not even sure what your point is with you. I am trying to sort whether you're derp headed town or scum. Your play is anti-town at a minimum trying to fit my play into a spot where it doesn't fit.

[Gorkington]

you said spiff was who came out as scummy from VCA.

if this VCA was genuine, why did you come at only spiff, myself and wisdom, given that you just admitted that counterwagons to scum are interesting to you and that my slot was a counterwagon to scum. feels to me like your reasoning for your original reads and your reasoning for your VCA now is vastly different.

[Titus]

you said spiff was who came out as scummy from VCA.

if this VCA was genuine, why did you come at only spiff, myself and wisdom, given that you just admitted that counterwagons to scum are interesting to you and that my slot was a counterwagon to scum. feels to me like your reasoning for your original reads and your reasoning for your VCA now is vastly different.

I am trying to sort your slots. Day 2 is not an ironclad VCA but a jumping off point. You happened to be the people who were posting and engaging me, so I would naturally try and sort you back.

No one has ever mastered my VCA but me. I am not a good teacher of it. I tried with metal but he got banned. A good VCA looks at the Gamestate and what scum are likely to do to eliminate certain slots as scum, not peg who is scum. I got no interest in lynching you today, but I am still going to hunt your slot.

[Gorkington]

like, the issue im having is that youre saying you did vca, yes? why are your reads out of that vca now different than your reads out of the vca before? you can call me derptown all you want, but that discrepency reads hard like you made up your original vca as an excuse to scumread spiff and worse like you ignored your "vca" to push an omgus scumread on my slot.

[Gorkington]

like youre being selective with your vca. ive only ever seen you do that as scum.