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Smudger · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:15 am

sheesh

EBWOP

D1 should read D2

Kim · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:27 am

No time to reply to 369 right now. Just wanted to throw out a couple of thoughts I had getting ready for work:

1) At the end of D1, AS wanted me lynched and presumably had a "heavy FOS" on me. He never mentioned me on D2 until 320, "I'd like to add that [Belisarius'] interaction with Kim leads me to believe Kim is pretty solid town." That switch with no in-depth explanation plus his PR claim (of sorts) led me to think he had gotten a town read on me and was just being aggressive against Bel. Obviously, he didn't and wasn't.

2) We either have a 1SBP or a Doctor on the team. Scum doesn't have the numbers to successfully counterclaim today, but will after a mislynch. If we have a doctor, they've got about an 8% chance of earning us an extra lynch. I think the chances we have a doctor are slim, based on the lack of protection of some pretty obvious targets. Why shouldn't we get them to claim to get a confirmed town?

P-edit:

Smudger

, you seem to be against a doctor coming out. What about a 1SBP?

Kim · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:31 am

Pseudo-EBWOP, since I forgot to mention it:

In post 367, Smudger wrote:
In post 252, AzoriusSenate wrote:So i've reread D1 and looking at hiplops post coming from confirmed town and I think he might have been killed because he was the only one scumreading Belisarius.

this also would, in hindsight, direct you to think what? Its clear to me it directed Az to look at Bel N1...

AS's post was ~24 hours after his previous D2 post. Pre-flip, I thought he had done the reread then and not during N1. Post-flip, you're right.

Smudger · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:34 am

In post 376, Kim wrote:P-edit: Smudger, you seem to be against a doctor coming out. What about a 1SBP?

what good is there for a doc to out now? I don't see any reason for Doc to out, why would you want him to out?

But in the context of my thoughts on Az the subject of a doctor is relevant a 1SBP is not..... are you claiming that role?

Smudger · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:36 am

In post 376, Kim wrote:t the end of D1, AS wanted me lynched and presumably had a "heavy FOS" on me. He never mentioned me on D2 until 320, "I'd like to add that [Belisarius'] interaction with Kim leads me to believe Kim is pretty solid town." That switch with no in-depth explanation plus his PR claim (of sorts) led me to think he had gotten a town read on me and was just being aggressive against Bel. Obviously, he didn't and wasn't.

already discounted this, he had a real confirmed target, Bel... you remained his FOS unless of course you can point to where he dropped that FOS on you

Smudger · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:36 am

sorry pushed send before finishing typing

Smudger · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:38 am

that is as he was mislead by his findings, I remain convinced that what I state in my post 369 remains extant, Bel was distancing from you hard

Smudger · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:40 am

In post 376, Kim wrote:based on the lack of protection of some pretty obvious targets. Why shouldn't we get them to claim to get a confirmed town?

which obvious targets this does not make sense

Smudger · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:43 am

If we have a doctor they should not out and continue to protect who they feel is town if we go into another night, but thats not going to be required, the game will end today with a town win.

Smudger · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:44 am

I am done for the day as it is 1945hrs here and I have things to do tonight. Kim is todays lynch. I will try to check back here when I can tonight...

Kim · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:13 am

In post 376, Kim wrote:No time to reply to 369 right now. Just wanted to throw out a couple of thoughts I had getting ready for work:

1) At the end of D1, AS wanted me lynched and presumably had a "heavy FOS" on me. He never mentioned me on D2 until 320, "I'd like to add that [Belisarius'] interaction with Kim leads me to believe Kim is pretty solid town." That switch with no in-depth explanation plus his PR claim (of sorts) led me to think he had gotten a town read on me and was just being aggressive against Bel. Obviously, he didn't and wasn't.

2) We either have a 1SBP or a Doctor on the team. Scum doesn't have the numbers to successfully counterclaim today, but will after a mislynch. If we have a doctor, they've got about an 8% chance of earning us an extra lynch. I think the chances we have a doctor are slim, based on the lack of protection of some pretty obvious targets. Why shouldn't we get them to claim to get a confirmed town?

P-edit:
Smudger
, you seem to be against a doctor coming out. What about a 1SBP?

On the road to work, I realized my math in the Doctor section of part 2 was bad. I forgot to take lynches into account. Please ignore that. Don't claim if you're a doctor.

I'll reply in full to Smudger tonight, starting to type around 0130 UTC.

Plotinus · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:22 am

Official Vote Count 3.01 Debrecenbe kéne menni

Debrecenbe kéne menni,
Pulykakakast kéne venni.
Megállj kocsis, lyukas a kas,
Kiesik a pulykakakas!

Debrecenben csuda esett:
Két kis kakas összeveszett,
Én a kakasod nem bánom,
Csak az enyémet sajnálom.

I should go to Debrecen,
I should buy a turkey rooster.
Stop, driver, the basket has a hole,
The turkey rooster falls out!

In Debrecen a wonder happened:
Two little roosters got into a fight,
I don't feel sorry for your rooster,
I am only sorry for mine.

lynching

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no lynch.

Kim

(L-2): Smudger

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Kim · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:20 am

@

MrCurlyNoodles

, @

Bluebird

: Were you ready to vote for and/or hammer Bel?

@

Witch_Doctor

: Why did you lynch without giving MCN and Blue a chance to comment on what was happening?

Bluebird · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:39 am

In post 387, Kim wrote:@
MrCurlyNoodles
, @
Bluebird
: Were you ready to vote for and/or hammer Bel?

Not really. I hadn't read the thread between the last time I'd posted and the time he was lynched; I'm a bit miffed, really.

Witch_Hunter · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:04 am

In post 387, Kim wrote:@
Witch_Doctor
: Why did you lynch without giving MCN and Blue a chance to comment on what was happening?

Because the faster the lynch, the less time Belisarius and his scumbuddy would have to develop a strategy.

Long version: Smudger's post 353, where he refused to explain his change of heart, meant he couldn't say his reasons openly. What's the one thing town shouldn't talk openly about? Power roles. So, I figured Smudger seemed to think Azorius was a cop who had scumread Belisarius.

Rereading Azorius' posts, that explained his odd behavior, his fixation with Belisarius despite an apparent lack of arguments. Rereading other people's latest posts, it seemed Smudger was the only one to see it. Maybe Belisarius himself hadn't, considering the disdain he'd shown for Azorius' 'tunneling'.

So, lynching him ASAP might possibly save a cop's life. With all due respect to MrCurlyNoodles and Bluebird, I still believe it was a chance worth taking.

Witch_Hunter · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:20 am

@ Bluebird:

Sorry about that. I thought it was the right thing to do, and it had nothing to do with neglecting your participation in the game.

On topic: What do you think about what's going on today?

@ Kim:

If you believed Azorius had townread you, instead of scumreading Belisarius, why did you join yesterday's wagon?

Smudger · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:15 am

lynch Kim please

Smudger · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:56 am

no seriously lynch Kim.. now

Smudger · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:11 am

please just lynch Kim, stop pussy footing around and lynch him..

Smudger · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:32 am

In post 390, Witch_Hunter wrote:
@ Bluebird:
Sorry about that. I thought it was the right thing to do, and it had nothing to do with neglecting your participation in the game.

On topic: What do you think about what's going on today?

@ Kim:
If you believed Azorius had townread you, instead of scumreading Belisarius, why did you join yesterday's wagon?

why are you asking these questions?

Smudger · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:35 am

.... why is Kim still alive?......

Smudger · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:51 am

really/ LYNCH

Smudger · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:52 am

come on .... I want to sit back and relax...

Witch_Hunter · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:11 pm

@ Smudger

: Your case on Kim is convincing. But 1) either MrCurlyNoodles or Bluebird needs to agree, and 2) he's supposed to offer his defense later today, why lynch him before that? Are you that sure about it?

MrCurlyNoodles · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:47 pm

In post 387, Kim wrote:@MrCurlyNoodles, @Bluebird: Were you ready to vote for and/or hammer Bel?

I wasn't, but i was also dumb and didn't see what was clearly happening. What happened was good so I'm not angry about it

In post 398, Witch_Hunter wrote:@ Smudger: Your case on Kim is convincing. But 1) either MrCurlyNoodles or Bluebird needs to agree, and 2) he's supposed to offer his defense later today, why lynch him before that? Are you that sure about it?

I agree with this, convincing case and I wouldn't be opposed to the lynch, but why not hear his defence first? After that I'm down to vote for who we vote for.