Mini 1749: Classic Rock Mafia: Game Over!


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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:12 pm

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In post 1646, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 1644, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1642, AlwaysInnocent wrote:You're wrong about me, Aeronaut. But I understand your reasons for voting me. I admit: this has not been my best game.

I would advise you to look at my interactions with Dwlee, though. How likely is it that it was faked?

You mean that time you said he was fence-scum with minimal reasoning, and then never actually voted him or pushed him?

Yea I took a look there.
So the constant calls to kill everyone in the pool {Mathilda, Dwlee/Firebringer, Dierfire} mean nothing to you?

Constant calls to kill
votes.

In post 1648, AlwaysInnocent wrote:You're even quoting those posts, but all you see is Mathilda apparently. I screwed up the lynch order. Big time.

My overconfidence caused me to fall. After I realized I was wrong about Mathilda, I became a lot more cautious. This developed completely organically. It is not easy to fake that at all.

Being cautious about the wrong people only caused me to fall further. I hope you realize I am town sooner or later. We can win even if you mislynch me, but since we cannot be completely certain, there is still a 1% possibility that Dierfire is town and someone else is scum. I don't believe that, but hey, I have been wrong before. Still, I would like to believe that I am not completely stupid and have been right about Dierfire from the beginning, except that my overconfidence caused me to misjudge the lynch order and how scum could manipulate this.

It's not like you're being very cautious about Dier.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:16 pm

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You know, when I saw Mathilda flip town, I literally slapped myself in the face.

"Good job," I said to myself. "I am a student at a university and I just mislynched a scientist from my own field with pathetic reasoning."

I might as well have carried a torch and called her a witch. Intellectually, there was little difference. I was so consumed by my overconfidence that I started doing completely stupid things.

Ironically, when I became more cautious, it was about actual scum. I am not clever scum. I am a moron.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:18 pm

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I mean I'm a student at a University too, I'm pretty sure most of these people are.

The difference is, I'm a psych/Polisci major, so I usually can tell when the bullshit train is entering the station.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 1652, Aeronaut wrote:I mean I'm a student at a University too, I'm pretty sure most of these people are.
I guess. It is just that I look up to people like Mathilda and then I end up lynching them in an old-fashioned witch hunt. Talk about embarrassing.

The difference is, I'm a psych/Polisci major, so I usually can tell when the bullshit train is entering the station.
You're right about the bullshit, but you're wrong about my motivation. :lol:
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:22 am

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Does anyone else besides us have thoughts on this
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:15 am

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If AI was scum, I'd expect him to be on the FB and ABR lynch for free town points when it became inevitable, much like one of the suspects...
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:17 am

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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False smile brings pain to one's self


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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:18 am

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AI can be scum

But I'm not feeling it right now

His frustration after my hammer vote seems geniune
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:19 am

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I'm pretty much null on bothe direfier and dave like their purposely making themselves harder to be readed ...
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:20 am

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Garmr has been second prodded.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:56 am

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In post 1658, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm pretty much null on bothe direfier and dave like their purposely making themselves harder to be readed ...

I'm a replacement for a town miller who claimed in first post, in a game which had a mafia ascetic. I don't think reading me is even necessary.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:00 am

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In post 1557, davesaz wrote:VCA gives me either Dierfire is scum (evidence being his wagon could not be used to save scum ABR or scum Firebringer) or AlwaysInnocent (evidence being pattern of vote parking Dierfire and being unwilling to abandon that seemingly for any reason). I did that strictly off the official votecounts so there could have been an AI vote change that changed back before the next VC, skimming in this way would not pick that up.


Repeating this read again. If Dierfire isn't scum, then
why didn't scum use his wagon to save ABR
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I don't see any way that scum let one of themselves go down without a fight, unless the other wagon was also on one of them.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:01 am

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got prodded will catch up
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:28 am

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In post 1661, davesaz wrote:
In post 1557, davesaz wrote:VCA gives me either Dierfire is scum (evidence being his wagon could not be used to save scum ABR or scum Firebringer) or AlwaysInnocent (evidence being pattern of vote parking Dierfire and being unwilling to abandon that seemingly for any reason). I did that strictly off the official votecounts so there could have been an AI vote change that changed back before the next VC, skimming in this way would not pick that up.


Repeating this read again. If Dierfire isn't scum, then
why didn't scum use his wagon to save ABR
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They did.

Or they tried to.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:32 am

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Having said that, Dier is pretty bad too. I do think that between Dier and AI is the (hopefully) last scum.

I'm fine lynching Dier today. I think it's more likely AlwaysInnocent, but I'll consider just switching to Dier if the deadline gets too close. I'm bringing up AlwaysInnocent though, because I feel as if he's really scummy but nobody seems to really be pushing him.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:33 am

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They tried? Not even Albert B voted for Dierfire.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:37 am

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they = you


In my scenario in which you are scum.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:42 am

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Grammar what do you think? I'm not gonna lynch Frozen today, so what's your take on AI/Dier?
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:43 am

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Garmr******* fuck
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:49 am

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In post 1666, Aeronaut wrote:they = you


In my scenario in which you are scum.
Ok. Let's assume I am scum. We tried to save Albert B. by framing Dierfire. Why did Albert B not co-operate and vote for Dierfire? Instead he desperately tried to frame you. Why would he do something so futile when there was a better scapegoat?

The answer is: Albert B didn't want to be associated with Dierfire.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:54 am

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In post 1669, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 1666, Aeronaut wrote:they = you


In my scenario in which you are scum.
Ok. Let's assume I am scum. We tried to save Albert B. by framing Dierfire. Why did Albert B not co-operate and vote for Dierfire? Instead he desperately tried to frame you. Why would he do something so futile when there was a better scapegoat?

The answer is: Albert B didn't want to be associated with Dierfire.

Well the answer is probably because he didn't want to associate with you; say he gets lynched desperately trying to lynch Dier, then that basically clears Dier for us. He put it on me because it doesn't make a difference.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:57 am

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you know, though... the fact that scum probably tried killing me last night also points to AJ.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:57 am

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Eh that's wifom though
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:58 am

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This game gives me headaches... HEADACHES!!
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 1671, Aeronaut wrote:you know, though... the fact that scum probably tried killing me last night also points to AJ.
Why? It makes sense to kill you anyway.
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