Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

[Supreme Overlord]

im amazed how ppl have been ignoring me

I ... didn't really realise you were in the game, to be honest. We're had a bunch of people not participating; you didn't stand out to me among them. Have you been purposefully quiet to see if anyone would notice you? If so, why speak up now?

Need people to vote you to be interested, huh?
VOTE: ika
beeboy basically sums it up; coasting without participation is scummy if it's on purpose, and is anti-town regardless.


Viva, can you answer my question in post 197; give me your opinion on the three votes that [were] on you, particularly how and when you decided mine was the worst one.

There's a plethora of odd, unexplained scumreads on me that cropped up when I started to look like a likely lynch.

At what point were you a 'likely lynch'? Your wagon maxed out at L-4, so the last person to actually vote you did so at L-5.

[ika]

lol you sheeping beeboy to vote me is lol

[SilverWolf]

I'm here now, let me catch up.

[ika]

yay!

[ika]

UNVOTE:

i wait

[beeboy]

@people who've played with ika before: does he frequently ask to be voted?
Beeboy why are you scumreading ika? Lack of content?

That was a year ago I honestly can't remember.

I was scum reading Ika originally for no content which isn't really worth and I only planned to do something if that continued to happen. Although his response is so scummy it isn't funny. The reason why I said I didn't like early wagons is because I really don't believe it accomplishes anything as they always tend to fall apart and if they don't they are usually newb town wagons. What I like about Day 1 is that it sets the tone for the rest of the game, since there isn't a lot of content it is awkward at times to post reads and it is very difficult for people to hide there true colours when it comes to what they think a scum tell is. By not establishing this tone a player becomes a lot harder to read as a suspicious action becomes can easily be justified as there is no prior information in the game for that player (I don't believe in meta). Also post 96 explains why I don't like people who post there content later in in the game.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ika

The only intent I can see with going last are scum related and I don't want to play with someone who doesn't like day 1 anyway as I think it is very important.

[beeboy]

Although being on a wagon with Supreme Overlord is troubling as I have a bad gut feeling about him.

[Something_Smart]

So ika doesn't like day 1, but his lack of content is not due to that and instead because he is scum?
What about his reaction was scummy?

[beeboy]

So ika doesn't like day 1, but his lack of content is not due to that and instead because he is scum?
What about his reaction was scummy?

Refusing to participate before Wolf joins is very scummy because he will have everyone's thoughts on the game before he says his so it is harder for people to question him.

[Something_Smart]

It also means he'll have more to respond to. He should be the first to respond to Wolf.
And why does that make him harder to question?

[ika]

i dont get how if i get everyones thoughts it makes it harder for me

[SnarkySnowman]

Ika and Beeboy are probably both town.

[Something_Smart]

Ika and Beeboy are probably both town.

this

Gotta see what ika says but for now I agree.

[texcat]

Day 1, Votecount 7

Cobalting

(4): SnarkySnowman, TheShadow, Masquerade, Viva La Gloria

ika

(3): Cobalting, Supreme Overlord, beeboy

Viva La Gloria

(2): Something_Smart, droog

Masquerade

(1): Shinobi

Not Voting (3):

SilverWolf, Aristophanes, ika

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline

: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:00 am (Texas time)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2016-02-08 09:00:00)

[SilverWolf]

Sorry, I'm not feeling well and will have to get to this tomorrow.

[droog]

so..........

hey silver.....

are uyou scum here?

VOTE: silverwolf

heres a little motivaiton

this is an odd post
after taunting beeboy for not voting you

why do you suddenly switch direction

[droog]

So ika doesn't like day 1, but his lack of content is not due to that and instead because he is scum?
What about his reaction was scummy?

good counterpoint

[Cobalting]

I'll talk to PhantomCobalt later.
{beeboy, droog, Masquerade}
{Snarky Snowman, Aristophanes, TheShadow}
{Something_Smart, Shinobi, Supreme Overlord, ika}
{Viva la Gloria}

[beeboy]

I just don't understand why we can't know Ika's thoughts before Silverwolf posts it isn't like he is bound to his initial reads and isn't allowed to change them.

[Cobalting]

everyone
give your reads on the top two wagons
asap

I'm one of them, my top scumread is the other.

But we're getting nothing from Ranger, and PC can't explain Ranger's reads, so I was hoping to get something from that slot.

To the contrary, you

have

got something: my lists. Have you tried running through them and trying to figure them out? It's not that hard. What sparks the change in the list? At what post do I make the list? (For instance, my last post changed the positioning of ika and Masquerade, but I'm only now quoting this post, so clearly, something prior to page 8 caused the change.) And so on.

Listing is a valid scumhunting technique.

[Cobalting]

Cobalting has made an effort to avoid analyzing anything.

As I said: fully false. If I was analyzing nothing, the list would remain unchanged. (Well, sometimes that happens, but when it does, I note it.) It has not. There have therefore been critical triggers invoking placement on the list. And I simply choose not to reveal them yet.

im amazed how ppl have been ignoring me

I haven't. I was thinking of maybe moving our RVS off of you, but then you had to be all scummy. I'm thinking you could maybe be town and of moving off, but I'm looking for something. Post more and I'll have a better read on you.

[Cobalting]

VOTE: Supreme Overlord.
Eh, still not fully comfortable with ika

especially

given multiball, but beeboy's right.
Not gonna share a wagon with him.

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:

Ya something_smart and cobalting are both against this and they can't both be a potential Ika partner so I am going to wait for him to post.

[droog]

UNVOTE:

im done with my little experiment
ill explain in a bit

[beeboy]

Waiting o3o