In post 3999, Kagami wrote:If throughout such a cycle there is no meaningful change in the game, as is the case in the scenario you're hypothesizing, I would announce to all players that the game will be called if No Lynch is voted the second time.
Welp.
There you have it folks. The onus would be on the town not to no lynch again.
Making this an awful fucking scenario for us.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
Don't care. No lynching is playing to our wincon. And besides. Scum is in the same boat as town.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
And scum no-lynching is playing against their wincon since MyLo.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
In post 4001, DiamondSentinel wrote:Don't care. No lynching is playing to our wincon. And besides. Scum is in the same boat as town.
Or we can avoid this and you can just lynch the scum Marquis.
I get you're tired of mafia and are willing to throw this game away, but please just think about it for a moment. Think about the 16 other players whose experiences you'd be ruining.
If this scenario occurs, I won't no lynch. A draw is not a town win, and a town win is my win condition. I play to it to the end.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
I'm playing to my wincon. To lynch Marquis would be to go against my better judgement which is ultimately not my wincon. I'm not throwing the game away, I'm going for my wincon.
And I'm not tired of Mafia. I'm tired of the bullshit and the crappy people who come along with it.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
I refuse to no lynch. We're in a situation where we're offered a second chance if we get this wrong. I'm not giving that up for a dumb potential chance that most likely just leads to nether dying anyway.
Nether I would rather be lynched than no lynch. I will self hammer before deadline to get it over with before whatever lylo tomorrow rather than risk everything for nothing tonight.
In post 4005, Marquis wrote:I refuse to no lynch. We're in a situation where we're offered a second chance if we get this wrong. I'm not giving that up for a dumb potential chance that most likely just leads to nether dying anyway.
The issue is we don't have a choice.
We require 3 votes in a 4 man Mylo.
And if DS is opting out, the only person we CAN lynch is DS.
So.....
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
In post 4011, Marquis wrote:LLD I don't see why you're so dead set on Titus being town.
your whole me-scum scenario makes no sense because there's no way I'd consider titus more of a threat than lynchbait in a 3p lylo.
I'm just so confident and sold on it. Like, I keep trying to look at it, but the only thing Titus has ever done that pings me, is try to mediate between you and I in a weird way.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
And she STILL didn't answer to my question.
Do you really believe she just does not notice it all this time? Now that I've talked about like 5 times? Seriously?
Another argument for scum!Titus btw:
I've just thought about possible lynches and I completely see why Titus wants me or Marquis lynched today.
Because it leads her to LLD-Titus-Nether/Marquis LyLo which she will certainly win.
Lynching any other player will put her in losing situation so no wonder she 'townreads' LLD and DS and 'scumreads' me and Marquis.
It's so goddamn obvious, how can anyone not see it?!
The issue is, I'm inclined to believe DS is probably town now. I mean, there's that bug still in my brain but, anyone that willing to go to a draw is stubborn town, not scum.
So that leaves me with 3 options.
Marquis
Titus
You
And given if we lynch Titus today, I'm certain that draw scenario will occur, and it will be impossible to ever lynch Marquis, since we'll need all 3 townies on the wagon.
And given you are fucking dripping with townie genuine emotion, and I can't ignore that.
Lynch Marquis with me, and my vote is yours tomorrow. I'll vote Titus, I'll vote myself, I don't care.
I'm that certain about Marquis.
And I'm that certain I want to avoid the draw scenario.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
Like, it won't even get to lylo is the thing. DS is town, you're town. Titus is town.
The game ends with Marquis' death.
Which is why I'm confident in saying if I'm wrong, you have full control of tomorrow. I know you're paranoid about scum!me. I'm giving you this to assuage your fears about that.
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
from what i've seen this whole game either you're playing a damn good counterintuitive camp-as-fuck scumgame or everyone gives your towngame quality wayyyyyyy too credit
My phones almost dead, so I won't be back for another 5 hours or so. That's when I'm going to make my decision. This day has struggled on far too long and it's not helping anyone except scum.
“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”
If you're scum you're winning by lynching Marquis because tomorrow Titus will vote me and nothing will stop you from hammering (in fact, you will even have to do it because otherwise you'll be playing against your wincon).
Also, voting yourself will be playing against your wincon regardless of your alignment so you can't promise that.
