Machina Mafia (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD

If you're scum you're winning by lynching Marquis because tomorrow Titus will vote me and nothing will stop you from hammering (in fact, you will even have to do it because otherwise you'll be playing against your wincon).
Also, voting yourself will be playing against your wincon regardless of your alignment so you can't promise that.

That's... a fair point.

I fucking hate being at an impasse with you though, because we're both town and we have VASTLY different opinions on this.

Can you at least see why lynching Titus will put the game into a cancerous position, given DS' promise to create a draw?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, at the end of the day, no assurance I give you will ever completely remove the paranoia from you, and that's right. That's a good thing to have as town.

It's just it's getting in the way of us lynching scum and winning this game and that's fucking awful. :/

[Netherspite]

Yes I do.
I don't like it either.
However, it will end in a draw only if scum will decide to target DS twice in a row knowing it'll end up in a draw.
I don't think scum will want it.

Marquis for me just does not feel like scum at this point.
I can't imagine scum playing like that. "Please don't NL today" when we're not going to NL today.
scum!Marquis does not fit into VCA either. So I don't like to bet everything on scum!Marquis over scum!you.
I'd rather bet on scum!Titus with the off chance of scum deciding to end this game in a draw.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Are you REALLY willing to bank our game on it?

Like, that's your choice.

You can trust me

or Trust that scum won't put us in an awful position.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm asking you to just put aside your misgivings this one time.

Because if Marquis is scum and we lynch Titus we lose.

But if Titus is scum and we lynch Marquis, we win.

That's what I'm asking you to understand.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Which is why it comes back to, how much can you trust me

please, go back through my ISO. Read my posts, see my emotions, see that I am town.

And put your faith in me, instead of in this 4p mylo awfulness.

[Netherspite]

I'm going to sleep now, it's 2:30 am here.
I hope to wake up and see we won this game <3

PEdit: I'll rather trust my scumread on Titus + that scum won't go for the draw. The first part being the biggest.
PEdit2: If Titus is scum and we lynch Marquis we don't neccessarily win. We can end up in me+you+Titus LyLo and god knows what will happen there.
If Marquis is scum and we lynch Titus we don't neccessarily lose. DS will do his best to make the right choice, I trust him.
Please don't twist the facts.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DS has promised you will we draw.

Like....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't believe you're risking our fucking game on the hope and prayer Marquis won't force the draw scenario.

[Marquis]

let's be fucking real if i was scum i could easily win a nether-ds-me LYLO so get that out of here

[Lady Lambdadelta]

let's be fucking real if i was scum i could easily win a nether-ds-me LYLO so get that out of here

You think so? I doubt it.

I doubt it with every bone of my body.

Because 1) There's always the risk that DS targets Nether and busts your shit for killing me

and 2) Nether and DS are currently CERTAIN of eachother being town. So I think you're lying. I think there's NO CHANCE IN HELL you win that.

[Marquis]

well thanks for proving me wrong but the point still stands that there's no way anything i've done furthers some conspiracy scum agenda from me including this titus lynch

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean, I understand you're forced to say that, but it;s patently not true, mr. "I didn't know there was only 4 scum oops town read me! lol"

[Marquis]

like you're only proving my point. why would i go this route as scum like lol where does any of this make sense

[Marquis]

I mean, I understand you're forced to say that, but it;s patently not true, mr. "I didn't know there was only 4 scum oops town read me! lol"

i'm pretty sure i made multiple posts in previous days considering the possibility of 5 scum and nobody corrected me so lol ok

[DiamondSentinel]

My, you guys certainly said nothing during that break...

[Titus]

like you're only proving my point. why would i go this route as scum like lol where does any of this make sense

This whole thing would appear to be faking townslips for towncred.

I am pretty sure DS and LLD are town. Do you agree with me there? Like they are do not vote for them like ever levels of town?

If not, what is the hang up?

I'm trying here Marquis. This is me trying not to confbias here.


@DS, I acknowledge your request for a case. I just got back into town. I will do it tonight or tomorrow morning first thing.

[DiamondSentinel]

That's what I'm waiting for.

Also, LLD, I'm going to lynch Titus today for 3 reasons.

1. She is just as scummy as Marquis, fmpov
2. Her role has little usefulness to us, now, as the neighborhood is established.
3. She is able to give me information semi-privately, so she can give me information that would be good to know in case of mislynch.

At this point, my decision is sheerly pragmatic.

[Titus]

@DS, I will need a little bit of time here with Marquis. I am still trying to filter out his alignment. I am voting him because he's in my "not obvious town" pile and LLD wants to lynch him. I still prefer Nether at this point.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's what I'm waiting for.

Also, LLD, I'm going to lynch Titus today for 3 reasons.

1. She is just as scummy as Marquis, fmpov
2. Her role has little usefulness to us, now, as the neighborhood is established.
3. She is able to give me information semi-privately, so she can give me information that would be good to know in case of mislynch.

At this point, my decision is sheerly pragmatic.

How about reason 4: The fact that you are going to force town into that shitty draw situation.

Is that a good enough reason not to lynhc Titus?

Fucks sakes it's iike everyone's gone mad.

I swear to god, like, if Titus flips scum I'll apologize for this, but you're all fucking morons. Every last one of you. Except Marquis, he's scum, so it's expect of him I guess.

:/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am so tired of being ignored.

Like

"OH LLD YOU'RE A SILLY GIRL WHO CAN'T HAVE REAL OPINIONS OR EVER BE RIGHT. SIT OVER THERE WHILE THE ACTUAL PLAYERS DO STUPID FUCKING SHIT"

Do you know how frustrating it is?

Do you know how fucking infuriating it is to be sitting here, looking at you and Nether and being like "if you lynch Titus, Marquis wins" and being told "lol you're silly"

Like fuck you both.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That''s it I'm fucking done with this game dude.

This game has brought me to the verge of tears so I'm done.

I'm done posting.

Do what you fucking like. I hope you lose this game for town now. You don't deserve to win it, at all.

Let's just fucking hand Marquis the win now. Do you think if we asked the mod would let us concede now? I'd like to try and concede now. It's not worth the fucking extended god damned torture.

[Titus]

LLD ffs stop ankle biting me. Give me time. Please. We have it.

You can go take a bike ride or anything else for 24 hours. Cmon.

[Netherspite]

How about reason 4: The fact that you are going to force town into that shitty draw situation.

Only if Titus is town which is unlikely and if scum will go for the draw which is also unlikely.
And if Marquis is town and we mislynch him we face even worse fate of losing instead of drawing in case you're scum.

[Titus]

Cmon Nether.

3 townreads wins this game. Why you throw shade?