In post 150, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I wonder if Taeke is sophisticated enough to pull off some of these sabotages.
I find it pretty hard to identify when sabotages are actually happening! Like in the last episode,
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multiple people definitely screwed up the sentences they were given - Marjolein, Cecile, Tim, maybe Taeke. And in the cycling one, *everyone* missed numbers 1 through 7 at the start. I find it really hard to spot what the mole is doing wrong when the challenges are hard and everyone makes a lot of mistakes.
I'm still on Taeke too though. There was the moment in the cycling challenge where he kept making Tim repeat the answer and almost missed the deadline. And in the previous episode with suitcase challenge, the first riddle about Jokers, Taeke starts off by asking "what's on the Jokers?" and then 5 seconds later he's insisting "it's the mole on both sides! It's 100%" which seems a bit weird.
Although CES pointed out that Klaas then votes for giving 50% as the answer, haha.
Just wanted to say that there's a new season of "De Mol" in Belgium which started yesteday. Not sure how you guys could watch it, but it was pretty promising.
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I've been thinking it's Rop ever since his reaction to Remy's "haha screw you mole you suck we rule" back in episode 3. His reactions to the green screens weren't great either.
TaekeTaeke totally biked ahead and grabbed all them missing envelopes at the start and then moseyed out and grabbed the ending ones between camera shots of him and Art this is so ez guys come on.
I wouldn't be sad if annemieke was de mol cuz that would mean she gets to survive to the end.
In post 155, Papa Zito wrote:TaekeTaeke totally biked ahead and grabbed all them missing envelopes at the start and then moseyed out and grabbed the ending ones between camera shots of him and Art this is so ez guys come on.
would the host really end the test with additional information about the placement and order of the envelopes if he did that? (not 100% rhetorical, this is the first time I follow this show)
They were probably still there, out of sight. Art often understates the difficulty of challenges to make the contestants paranoid. If it was so easy to snatch 9 of the 12 envelopes in under 5 minutes, how would the challenge be challenging if the mole wasn't picked to go first? Even if Taeke had a map of all envelopes in his head, he'd at least need to pull over a few times.
It's possible that the producers completely relied on Taeke's ability to convince people to let him go first, but that would be lame.
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Plus, there are challenges where Taeke won't be utilized. See: The Bridge to Nowhere
He didn't have to sabotage there, he actuallly did really well. Plus, he wasn't in a great position to sabotage. Ideally, the middle is the best for that.
Yet, there will be challenges where Taeke is called on to be the workhorse.
Drag the Topido, The Attack the Base laser gun mission, this biking mission, the salt cart mission
And out of all of those, the only one that went well was the Base Attack, where he was the only one to score meaningful money.
So that benefits Taeke!mole too
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13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
In post 155, Papa Zito wrote:TaekeTaeke totally biked ahead and grabbed all them missing envelopes at the start and then moseyed out and grabbed the ending ones between camera shots of him and Art this is so ez guys come on.
OMG of courrrrrrse
That's beautiful, it makes so much sense I feel silly I didn't realise it.
Right, they were dragging that thing through the sand and he was insisting they "save the most people possible!" which conveniently took the thing right out of one of the money zones.
There was something on the rock climbing quiz that
reaaally
pinged me but I can't remember what it was. Something about a percentage, and they got it wrong, and the only way they got it wrong was if Taeke or somebody else was the mole. I'd have to rewatch the episode again.
BTW I'd love to watch Belgian Mole but is there gonna be a translator for it?
Right, they were dragging that thing through the sand and he was insisting they "save the most people possible!" which conveniently took the thing right out of one of the money zones.
There was something on the rock climbing quiz that
reaaally
pinged me but I can't remember what it was. Something about a percentage, and they got it wrong, and the only way they got it wrong was if Taeke or somebody else was the mole. I'd have to rewatch the episode again.
BTW I'd love to watch Belgian Mole but is there gonna be a translator for it?
If I can find one, I'll throw the show up onto a sync watch? That's always fun
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
So... are the disbelievers onside with Team Taeke yet??
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I really enjoyed the last episode! The bellboy challenge was hilarious to watch. I couldn't tell if there were any clear sabotages - I did notice Taeke played a total of -750 in the wooden cards game, but feasibly that could have been the correct play at the time in terms of personal gain. In the previous episode there were couple of moments - like maybe him driving the car the wrong way(?), and wasting time when using the phone in the cable cars.
The failed trade between Klaas and Annemieke was annoying. They would both have been better off if Annemieke had given Klaas 3 or 4 of her jokers, and he had given her the black token in exchange, on the agreement that she would never play it (which she had no incentive to do). Then they would both have had more jokers than the other players. Whereas by playing the black token, Klaas merely puts himself on level pegging with the others.
The current official poll has Klaas as the most suspected candidate, at 48%! I am still a firm believer in Taeke, I just don't think any hypothetical sabotage tops him stealing the envelopes on the bike.
CES is still unconvinced though! He just agreed to bet against me - I win if it's Taeke, he wins if it's any of the other 3. I only wish we had made this bet 2 episodes ago so I could be even more insufferably smug when we find out the truth
with this episode, I have to admit, I was wrong. It cannot be Annemieke. Last episode already made me spread, but with this one I really should let it go. It's for me time to get out of the tunnel and accept that while he's the nicest guy, it's just Klaas who's the mole here.
I'm 90% sure they try to obfuscate the way the game goes with the "suspicions" voiced during the test. They tend to cover the whole group. I think there's some selective quoting or something going on there, which obviously isn't malicious, I mean, all the viewers get to search for the mole then as well. But the fact that this elimination was on time, means probably the whole group already knows who the mole is, and tests are really on knowledge, not so much on guessing who the mole is. The most obvious choice for me has to be Klaas then.
For me, Rop was the candidate-mole. He's not spectacular ever, and that suits him fine. Taeke, can't shut off. He's competative, and as such a terrible candidate. He's done some odd things, but it feels so clunky and every other challenge that suits him he's done good things for the team again. And Tim, although hard to grasp, really only has that as a reason to suspect him. When it matters, when there's jokers in play or stuff, he's really focussed on that. Maybe he fooled the odd candidate, but it's just a way of life rather than him playing the game that way. Which leaves Klaas for me, who's just too often not quite accurate (like this episode, not recognising who's suitcase it was) and who in my minds eye is constantly shrugging when something has gone wrong again.
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.