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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:32 pm

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votecount 4.1
Scatterplot (1) - hiplop
hiplop (1) - Ranger
Wisdom (1) - Scatterplot


Not voting (5) - Expedience, Wisdom, Ankamius, Gorkington, Antihero

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is February 5, 21:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-02-05 21:20:00).
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:27 am

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Like, read through the last couple pages from the perspective that I'm town, which I know will be hard for some of you who are not townreading me but I
am
town in this game, more town than I've ever been before just from the sheer number of things that I never in a million years would have done if I were scum. I am usually surprised by how little would be different but this game I've surprised myself with how much would have been different.

We have players who painted my being unsure about Sakura, which largely stemmed from being unwell, and Ether's strong townread on her, as us being scum together and then pushed that lynch through when we had plenty of time left and I was asking for that time and they used the idea of me being scum together with her to encourage people to rush that lynch. And then yesterday they pushed the narrative that Phantom and I were scum together because my defence of him couldn't possibly stem from having ICed him and modded him and trying to look below the surface on a harder to read player who often comes across as scummy when he's town, and they quickhammered him before he could claim.

And now they're both overdramatically claiming to scumread each other based, yet again, on preflip associatives with me, a town player. They both agree the other is scum but they want to lynch me first, and they haven't realised that they won't succeed because i'm not getting lynched this game.

So. Anti is town. Gorkington is town. There seems to be an innocent on Ankamius. We thought Expedience might be the cop towards the end of the day which is why we backed down off him. Ranger is town.

Ether says that hiplop spent most of day 1 tunnelling talah, whose replaceout was pretty town and Ocean was also town and Gorkington has continued to be town, and when hiplop wasn't tunnelling talah, he was looking for counterwagons to KT.

Wisdom is scum because his first interpretation of the Ashnard kill was that he was being framed instead of RC gets nightkilled a lot as town even when he's wrong and who even knows who RC was scumreading because RC posted so much spam that wading through that ISO was impossible. Guilty conscience. He's scum because of his interactions with KT and because the Titus wagon was scumdriven and because of the way he was talking to me at the end of day 2 and the way he's continuing to talk to me since then.

And he's scum for his entrance today where they're both doing that distancing thing before they try to push my wagon through to get them to 6p MYLO but they haven't figured out what should be blindingly obvious about my play all game and why that's not going to work. I'm not getting lynched today.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:45 am

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In post 2326, Scatterplot wrote:more town than I've ever been before just from the sheer number of things that I never in a million years would have done if I were scum
okay tammy :P

honestly im a little bewildered by the last few pages.
ranger flipping her reads without a flip on either of her scumreads scares me.
wisdom's hiplop scumread and push scares me.
hiplop's reaction to said push scares me.
anti's probably my strongest read right now and i'd be lying if i said i was absolutely confident in that right now.

i feel like we're not gonna win this.
:/
whoever's town here im just not feeling the synergy at all.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:47 am

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oh and i guess ank is town.
q.q
sorry ank.
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:48 am

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In post 2323, Scatterplot wrote:This is scum theatre and you're both scum.

VOTE: Wisdom L-4

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Makes perfect sense, to think that your entire play has been building up to this one glorious observation!

VOTE: Scatterplot

I'll respond to other stuff later, but I don't have time right now.

Since certain people seem to hypocritically hate when I give unexplained votes, I'll say that I really disliked Scatterplot's posturing on PhantomCobalt.
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:49 am

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In post 2258, Antihero wrote:now i'm questioning my cheet read which sucks because cheet was the only one not being a turd to me yesterday
promise that even if i was scum here it wasnt buddying.

also ranger flipping her reads makes a little more sense in context of ank having that cop inno.
forgot about that.

im still feeling pretty unstable readswise right now though :/
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:55 am

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i feel pretty stupid.
im pretty sure im the reason spiff is dead.
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:56 am

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I'm going to take the Tammy comment as a compliment.

I'm pretty sure Anti is town.

I think we still have a chance. This game has been harrowing. But I don't think all is lost yet.

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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:15 am

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In post 2326, Scatterplot wrote:Wisdom is scum because his first interpretation of the Ashnard kill was that he was being framed instead of RC gets nightkilled a lot as town even when he's wrong and who even knows who RC was scumreading because RC posted so much spam that wading through that ISO was impossible

Yeah, no. First of all, I have one (1) completed game with RC, two years ago, so I definitely don't "know" that RC gets nightkilled.
Secondly, RC was pretty clear and vocal in that he was scumreading me and wanted me copped. You can't mistake that no matter how many posts there were in his ISO.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:16 am

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In post 2326, Scatterplot wrote:He's scum because of his interactions with KT

You've still not explained why those interactions are supposedly scum-scum.
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:16 am

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In post 2326, Scatterplot wrote:because of the way he was talking to me at the end of day 2 and the way he's continuing to talk to me since then.

What way is that exactly? I'm scumreading you? Yeah, that's how I talk to my scumreads. Tough luck.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:18 am

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VOTE: hiplop

Let's lynch this first. I don't wanna admit it, but I got townvibes from that Plot post.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:22 am

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Just.. who the fuck is the third. Am I wrong on Expedience?
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:23 am

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In post 2283, hiplop wrote:So your case is essentially I was wrong about firebringer...?

Feel free to look up any meta of me with firebringer where I say I can't read the guy at all. I can't. His posting style messes with my brain.

ranger made several points.
you water them down here in a way that doesnt make sense and redirect it.
please come back and actually talk about this in a non-flaily way.
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:23 am

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In post 2337, Wisdom wrote:Just.. who the fuck is the third. Am I wrong on Expedience?
come get me boogy man.
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:41 am

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I'm here too!

Which is good. We've got a lot of Wisdom townreads to dismantle. (To be clear, ending this day in a hiplop lynch is absolutely fine with me, but not before we've driven this point home.)

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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:46 am

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Ether, if I am town, who do you think hiplop''s buddy is?
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:16 am

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Um...I'm thinking on that.

I think I actually do have to think on that after all. I've got Plotinus's ISO map in front of me right now. I'm not so sure there's an innocent on Ankamius--it seems to correlate more closely to Spiffeh taking over--and Trebuchet seems to have very clearly changed their tune on you over Night 1.

But ugh.

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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:26 am

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You think they investigated me? I could see it, given they had expressed suspicion on me in D1. But uh, claiming Ank is obvtown is big given Ank is hard to read.
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:28 am

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that's what we thought too, but we just saw this:

In post 2006, Gorkington wrote:anti is town.
is this the part where i call both of you suspicious for not seeing it when it's so obvious to me? OHOHOHOHOHOH
i'm going to bark at spiff if he cant produce quotes that are backing up this "ank is IC-level town" when he gets a computer.

In post 2012, Spiffeh wrote:I never said he was IC level town you nooblet


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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:30 am

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Wait

In post 1341, Trebuchet MS wrote:scatterplot and ank

scatterplot and ank

scatterplot and ank

say it with me now


This is after the supposed inno. They didn't have an inno on Ank.
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:31 am

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Ashnard is the person Spiffeh was expressing the most suspicion toward going into night. That's my guess. He already thought Ankamius was town by that point (1686), so it doesn't make sense that he'd investigate him.

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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:32 am

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That quote is from Day 2--Spiffeh taking over is when the slot started calling Ankamius town. It's possible that he checked you Night 1 and Ankamius Night 2, but I don't think that's what happened.

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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:33 am

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In post 2346, Scatterplot wrote:Ashnard is the person Spiffeh was expressing the most suspicion toward going into night. That's my guess. He already thought Ankamius was town by that point (1686), so it doesn't make sense that he'd investigate him.

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You mean N2? Yeah, I agree. I'm talking about N1.
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:34 am

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He doesn't have a single interaction after night 1 in which he expresses suspicion or paranoia of wisdom, not even hydra dissonance. I thought the minuses with anti on day 2 were just doubtcasting (which is bad enough for a townread) but he does express some actual paranoia about Cougar's Den there too which I think he would avoid doing if he had an inno on Anti. Anti is obvtown, though.

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