NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Frozen Angel]

THx!

no please answer these :

1 - why shiro is so down in your list ?
2 - why you have a kind of null read about Heat ?
3 - why your strongly town reading Elyse? (you stated your not scum reading her - not town reading her this much)

[Frozen Angel]

now*

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and can you please clarify your reads on Dave ?

[Frozen Angel]

Mod I think Pistachion and Heat need some prods

hopefully we can replace Pistachion this time!

/No Offense Pista but Your inactivity is not what we need atm

[Frozen Angel]

ok we w8...

[Frozen Angel]

Your respond to first part was like omgus.

and role fishing? :/ ... ? It was more like blaming for a soft claim...

[Frozen Angel]

Esp is not scum, do something else Nero.

Well I don't like to talk about Esp himself

But this comment is interesting ...

[Frozen Angel]

Esp you need to give us your full read list ...

[Frozen Angel]

Whats your stance about Elyse ?
Your happy about Elyse for calling Titus in 1v1?

Whats your stance about Nero and his reads about you?
whats your stance about Shinobi ?

[Frozen Angel]

Drixx are you reading Esp posts? or just skimming them?

[Frozen Angel]

UNVOTE:
I need to reread

[Frozen Angel]

There is something between Shinobi - Esp

I need to know its townish or scum

anybody else saw that?

[Frozen Angel]

look shinobi ISO and tell me .

[Frozen Angel]

Vote: Grib

Espo.
Talk to me.

What's going on with this?

Vote: Grib

Espo.
Talk to me.

What's going on with this?

It's above it.

Not buying the mario wagon so counter is still up for grabs until the dav wagon took off which I haven't looked at yet.

Esp is not scum, do something else Nero.

his all interactions with Esp ^

I mean it seems he knew Esp alignment since start ... he ignored my question why ... I'm kind of curious about the situation at hand ...

Shinobi acted really focused whole game long.

My gut says something is not right here.

[Frozen Angel]

People don't forget manners please! :/

[Frozen Angel]

I'm moving on my second scum read atm :

VOTE: heat

I think heat's day 1 was really worth lynching. plus his day 2 posts were just heating up the wagons. Heat never contributed anything to the game so far.

I can be convinced about Dav and pista as well. their next in line

[Frozen Angel]

I can be convinced about Dav and pista as well. their next in line

and Aj

[Frozen Angel]

sorry everyone. don't have time for my all games atm

prododge

[Frozen Angel]

It's not endorsed by the order of Shiro.

I dunno I mean. I am voting pignash right now.

I think town is shattered apart.

I mean everyone have some townreads atm. I think scums are so distributed and completely over the place . I'm twon reading Dave and pig wagon , Elyse is definitely town. and I know I'm town.

the 4 wagons of this game are not scum driven. so I think its attacking the real scums (that's why scums don't wanna try to push a wagon and buddy each other)

that being said I'm ok with a dave / pig lynch atm.

VOTE: pignash

[Frozen Angel]

Stop it. You're not lynching me today.

Let's lynch Dave so we can someTimes somewhere useful. Get to her backup plan.

why is that?

whats your current read on titus?

[Frozen Angel]

Because I'm not scum.

Town.

And I should believe that because?

[Frozen Angel]

Characterizing me as whining isn't really what I'm doing. I'm expressing frustration that I'm an easy mislynch. I am fairly sure story's is town and she thinks Dave is scum so I am willing to go with that. I was ISOing Heat yesterday cuz something seemed off but nothing jumped off the page as "I'm scummy!"

then don't be an easy mislynch if your town.

I want to see your reads. If you think there is scum in your wagon who is that?

if you think there is no scum in your wagon why you think your getting lynched by town atm? who is throwing shade on you from distanse?

start engaging

[Frozen Angel]

if you think there is no scum in your wagon why you think your getting lynched by town atm? who is throwing shade on you from distanse?

[Frozen Angel]

I'll definitely note that if pignash flips scum.

Is that a treat? I'm trying to see his stance atm. what are you doing ? taking notes?

[Frozen Angel]

People are on my wagon to punish not talking enough. I think that's good in theory but I just don't have a lot of good scum reads yet.

I haven't talked much either and even I have some scum reads...

Whats this exactly?!!!!!!!!

[Frozen Angel]

so why are you scum reading them. engage with me.

[Frozen Angel]

hello! everyone. sorry for my awkward disappearance. I was in a very bad place in IRL.

I'm trying to catch up asap

[Frozen Angel]

Is there anything suspicious about me you wanna ask me about?

I'm here to answer them.

[Frozen Angel]

caught up.

my reads didn't change at all. I think I'm staying with pig - I might agree with pista , Nero seems a bit weird ,and dave posts contain no content.

[Frozen Angel]

Also, please answer the following questions with nothing less than complete and total honesty.

1) Are you mafia?
2) Are you okay with being Cop checked?

since you asked respectably!

1) no!
2) well, I think that won't solve much because of my role .

[Frozen Angel]

Is there anything suspicious about me you wanna ask me about?

I'm here to answer them.

Could you go into detail on your read on Drixx?

drixx was a very town lean null slot in day 1 for me. when I saw titus brought up him in her town block I got shocked because I wasn't so sure about that. his attack on Elyse makes total sense to me. and his conversation with dave is not something I count scummy.

But I just don't like the amount of logic in his arguments. we're playing with humans here and I think viewing everything in a logical surface is a kind of ignoring some important facts.

his recent post answering to Esp makes me think there is something fishy going on here. that I will talk about it in my later posts.

[Frozen Angel]

Are you a Miller or an Ascetic?

Even-nights something.... I'm not sure if I must role claim or not.

[Frozen Angel]

I think I don't like to claim.

But I must insist in the wasting thing. I really appreciate day time interacting with me. night result on me won't tell you what you want.

[Frozen Angel]

You said you might agree with a pistachi0n lynch. Why, and what's stopping you?

nothing is stopping me. both pig and pista have a shitty ISO.

pig has 41 posts , always defensive , he has no solid read. just town lean and some agreements on finding others scummy.

pista has 51 posts , always 1 line , throwing stuff without reasons , branching everywhere, never defended himself at all , his only single solid reads are Aj->scum and titus->town and he never tried for these reads.

so I'm happy with both wagons. prefered pig atm.

[Frozen Angel]

pista has 51 posts , always 1 line , throwing stuff without reasons , branching everywhere, never defended himself at all , his only single solid reads are Aj->scum and titus->

scum

and he never tried for these reads.

sorry fixed :/

I think both of them are equally bad. but at least pista is trying ... I don't know. why you think pista is a better option than pig?

[Frozen Angel]

What "facts" am I ignoring, FA?

But I just don't like the amount of logic in his arguments. we're playing with humans here and I think viewing everything in a logical surface is a kind of ignoring some important facts.

I'm not a fan of full logical arguments. I think their never go deep enough to hunt the scum. they depends on the scum to slip and come to surface.

I think a combination of emotional and logical analyses are better

If you're going to come at me, you better be prepared to back it up.

what?!!! when I said I want to come at you?! your in my town lean list

[Frozen Angel]

This post pings hard. Don't know why.

:/

[Frozen Angel]

You know , better than anyone here that I'm an emotional player. and your throwing shades on me?

I think emotional analyses are not dumb and somehow , in some situations better approaches to solve the game. you want my examples?!

[Frozen Angel]

talking to titus ...

[Frozen Angel]

I'm trying to decide if you are scum trying to push this for town cred or to get people to abandon their usual strategies for finding scum ... or if you're sincere. I honestly cannot tell. You present like you are trying to logically prove something, but if you understood the basic rules of logic, you would already have concluded that you cannot know whether your premises are sound and therefore you cannot trust any conclusions. The only thing you can do is wait and see if evidence of multi-ball shows up, at which point you can say you were "right", although it would be more a case of a blind squirrel finding a nut in this case. Your logic is unsound and therefore your conclusion does not logically follow.

In other words ... if you end up being right, it will be because you got lucky and nothing more.

Esp and shinobi buddied. It was more obvious than the day.

this post here makes me think Drixx knows Esp alignment as well. I have no Idea what I'm suggesting but this connection was weird. this was what I wanted to mention in post 2366

[Frozen Angel]

talking a lot about he doesn't know about Esp alignment then suggesting that he was just lucky about knowing the multiball thing is weird.

plus I'm voting my read atm.

[Frozen Angel]

Why pista is more scummy than the pig?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm shadowy voting for both of them. But I can't see a priority here.

[Frozen Angel]

Pignash has content in short bursts. He gets attacked by my scumreads every time he shows up for trivial things, making it hard to contribute.

who are you talking about exactly?

[Frozen Angel]

The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.

[Frozen Angel]

The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.

If that was the case, why can't we wagon anyone?

Becuase town and scums are divided. as I said before I'm guessing we're hitting scum(s) so they can't buss or defend the wagon(s) all together.

[Frozen Angel]

You , Dave , Pistachion and pignash

I'm sure there is a scum in here. Lets see the wagons of these 4 in a list :

---
Titus —

Davsto

,

Espeonage

,

Elyse

,

pistachi0n

Davsto —

Firebringer

,

Titus

,

Dwlee99

,

Drixx

pignash —

Shinobi

,

Shiro

,

Nero Cain

,

Frozen Angel

,

Firebringer

pistachi0n —

pignash

,

Grib

,

Titus

,

Dwlee99

,

Drixx

---

I need to think more.

pedit : are you skimming my posts?

[Frozen Angel]

and Nero is buddying titus?!

[Frozen Angel]

sorry:

Blue : conf-town
Green : town
yellow : null
Orange : scum lean
Red : seems scum

[Frozen Angel]

its kind of brown not yellow

and nulls contains both slight town lean and slight scum leans as well (their not 100% null)

[Frozen Angel]

Working on it

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and Nero is buddying titus?!

What gives you that impression? They seem quite antagonistic.

you said that. not me. I got surprised when I heard it from you :

The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.

If that was the case, why can't we wagon anyone?

The amount of buddying in this game is a new record.

Who's buddying, aside from Nero on Titus?

[Frozen Angel]

So are you drawing any conclusions from that? Because I don't see anything particularly useful.

useful facts!

1 - heat and Aj (both scum lean) are not in any of the four wagons. Aj is voting Heat .

2 - Titus wagon is "follow the confirmed town" wagon. there is nothing there against Titus besides Elyse gut read. Esp is the best voter in that wagon.

3 - I'm not scumreading anyone in Dave wagon. although I can't see why people scumread dave more than Pistachian and pignash.

4 - Pig wagon seems to have 3 town , 1 null and 1 scum lean. pista wagon seems to have 2 town , 2 null and 1 scum lean. So i can't really see the priority of pista wagon atm.

5 - Grib is not in dave case with titus town block(titus- dweele- drix)

6 - Titus is screaming Shiro everywhere but they have no similar votes.

7 - Firebringer and shiro are not willed to be on pista wagon.(as it seems)

[Frozen Angel]

So are you drawing any conclusions from that? Because I don't see anything particularly useful.

useful facts!

1 - heat and Aj (both scum lean) are not in any of the four wagons. Aj is voting Heat .

2 - Titus wagon is "follow the confirmed town" wagon. there is nothing there against Titus besides Elyse gut read. Esp is the best voter in that wagon.

3 - I'm not scumreading anyone in Dave wagon. although I can't see why people scumread dave more than Pistachian and pignash.

4 - Pig wagon seems to have 3 town , 1 null and 1 scum lean. pista wagon seems to have 2 town , 2 null and 1 scum lean. So i can't really see the priority of pista wagon atm.

5 - Grib is not in dave case with titus town block(titus- dweele- drix)

6 - Titus is screaming Shiro everywhere but they have no similar votes.

7 - Firebringer and shiro are not willed to be on pista wagon.(as it seems)

[Frozen Angel]

bad network connection sorry

[Frozen Angel]

Your wall is IioA. You can do better.

I was telling information there. I said I'm telling information there!

I said they are some facts we need to consider them

[Frozen Angel]

I'd feel much, much better about her if she had done it of her own volition instead of in response to me asking about her being Cop'd, but alas.

there must be a reason. Think more or stop talking about it.

[Frozen Angel]

Please read my posts carefully. I use language carefully and you seem to have missed a very important word. Let me add emphasis to help: First I talk about the terrible logic being employed to try and claim the game is multiball without any actual evidence ... and then I finish the post by saying: "In other words... if you end up being right, it will be because you got lucky and nothing more. (Emphasis added)

yep , titus explained it. sorry. I'm not native english always loosing 1 or two words in posts.

[Frozen Angel]

Oh ... seems it means null? Null != town lean, does it?

your a slight town lean . which is in null category. explained in next post!

[Frozen Angel]

Sorry for not answering these before, I was in a kind of rush.

1) You state AJ and Heat are avoiding the larger wagons. What does this state about their alignments?

> well if my theory is correct their likely the frustrated scums who can't buss/white knight anymore because their friends are doing that.

2) Why is Espy the best voter on my wagon?

> because dave vote is simply OMGUS and pista states he just want to follow the conf town which is absurd. Shiro is the conf town and I wasn't talking about her - even though I'm not a fan of that gut read.

3) What is your read on Dave? If you weren't scumreading anyone there, why not hop on and see where it went. Why stay neutral?

> well , I don't know if dave is scum or not. I have nothing suggest that. I never stayed Natural I was following my greater scum reads.

4) You seem to be implying that wagon composition would be a good way to vote. If so, why did you not vote Dave?

> I was just simply telling some facts about wagons to show you why I think scum is so separate atm. your reason about pista wagon is not right. that was what I was trying to say in my point 4

5) This needs to be rephrased.

6) Ditto.

7) more rephrase.

> ?!!

Grib and Shiro and FB (in a lower degree) who your calling town with you (which I don't have any problem with town reading them) never voted with you.
I must state your town block is divided atm : Drixx - Dweele who are voting with you everywhere and Shiro-Grib who are not. I'm feeling better about the second group - not related to your alignment at all.

[Frozen Angel]

FB clarify your reads on Shiro - Titus - Pistachion please ...

[Frozen Angel]

I won't full claim unless in L1. please stop talking about that.

and Its my first time playing as this role. so I have no idea if Its the right thing to claim or not. (I think its not)

[Frozen Angel]

Ik what you are, frozen.

lol

you cheated before the game? as it seems you know everyone's role.

[Frozen Angel]

:/ still want to know why pista is a better lynch than pig

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: pistachion

just because my town reads in pigs wagon are going out 1 by 1.

[Frozen Angel]

L2 I guess. nearly the time for hard claim.

[Frozen Angel]

oooh thx for mentioning that. definitely time of hard claim.

[Frozen Angel]

I miscounted the votes. My apologies.

L2 I guess. nearly the time for hard claim.

Umm

It's L-1

Your vote made it L-1

exactly how?!!

VOTE: Heat

[Frozen Angel]

L2 I guess. nearly the time for hard claim.

Umm

It's L-1

Your vote made it L-1

why is Dave more scummier than Heat again?

why we're always going for the second scummy person in my list (in this case third after piggy) ?

[Frozen Angel]

exactly who is believing she miscounted votes when ITS said in a post its L1 twice?!

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen Angel, I'm going to try this again.

Does your role have the word 'Ascetic', 'Miller', 'Untargetable', or anything like that in it? Yes or no; you don't have to elaborate past that.

you want me to full claim?

pedit : wow!

VOTE: Dave

[Frozen Angel]

Grib if I say I'm one of them that's a claim

If I say I'm not one of thats a claim as well. I don't think there are to many options outside this.

what do you expect me to do?

[Frozen Angel]

why its proved that there is a scum in Aj wagon grib? its look like your just telling IIOA

[Frozen Angel]

but what about the people who are not in a single damn wagon we had? pointing heat

[Frozen Angel]

the one who suddenly hammers! and telling she missed it was L1

[Frozen Angel]

Also, Heat is a boy.

sorrrrrrryyyy

[Frozen Angel]

oh. I think I was their shot.

I have no idea why But I think I was

[Frozen Angel]

I think my last day WIFOM worked somehow.

I'm even nights commuter.

[Frozen Angel]

I see no reason for hiding it anymore because I don't think I'm gonna be a NK anyway anymore.

[Frozen Angel]

I fucking knew it, frozen.

Why isn't dave getting lynched we have the guilty?

you know everything don't you?!

[Frozen Angel]

Why would they ever shoot a probable miller claim that might end up lynched?

Because They thought I have an important role ? maybe ascetic ?

I don't know

[Frozen Angel]

ascetic cop or something .... maybe they thought I'm not claiming because of that

[Frozen Angel]

why you laugh! I thought its really probable!

[Frozen Angel]

Aaand Firebringer is town.

:/ how did you conclude that?

[Frozen Angel]

Titus how sure are you about a Town!Grib?

his try for communicating with me about my role feels extremely weird now that I'm looking back.

pedit : Grib you want me to post a game I recently finished with FB when he was called useless and lurker a lot and he whined about it SO much and after the lynch he flipped scum?

[Frozen Angel]

That's not alignment indicative like at all.

[Frozen Angel]

I request the cop check on Grib.

if he can do that, I can as well!

[Frozen Angel]

His posts were mainly information not analyses. he tried to sort cop check on me and FB last day. like he wanted to make sure his team will be stayed safe. He never voted with Titus but he buddied her like always. he stated he is not going to talk about my role but he really tried to get info about it. I'm kind of sure I was the Night target atm and I feel he was the scum who tried to sort me out and got really dep when it didn't worked - so he tried to make sure about it again

[Frozen Angel]

No I'm looking at your ISO. You asked me about full claim several times then denied it immediately. You knew there is something here. you thought I'm even night Ascetic something and that's why I'm not claiming.

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

FB that's not helpful like at all. why do you scum read me?

[Frozen Angel]

BE TOWN then

[Frozen Angel]

BE TOWN then

I am always town, except for those games I am not town.

Last time you said this you were mafia with RC remember?

[Frozen Angel]

Nether game I guess. If I'm right.

[Frozen Angel]

forget that. whats your read on Grib. what do you think about the case I just made on him? whats your read on heat? whats your read on me?

pedit : you knew I'm not miller or I would claim it immediately. You were kind of sure about me being Ascetic. my try for avoiding claiming it make you think I'm WIFOM ing for hiding my main role. I think that's considerable.

[Frozen Angel]

first sentense was to FB second to Grib if it wasn't obv

[Frozen Angel]

:/

[Frozen Angel]

You are definitely town, I shouldn't say this though from reading some games were players have called you definitely town and were burned, but thats how I feel

lol

[Frozen Angel]

I can't stop laughing atm!

[Frozen Angel]

Can I sig that?!

[Frozen Angel]

I'm still requesting the cop check on Grib.

Considering me not knowing my role and the benefits of claiming it then is not believable for me like at all ...

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not!

[Frozen Angel]

FB I'm going to delay putting that in my sig for 1 day. later maybe!

I will tell you why later

[Frozen Angel]

Pig, Drixx, Grib, Shiro, espe is my guess for town.

You were town reading me last day....... what changed?

nice slip

VOTE: Dweele

[Frozen Angel]

Pig, Drixx, Grib, Shiro, espe is my guess for town.

You were town reading me last day....... what changed?

nice slip

VOTE: Dweele

[Frozen Angel]

crap double posting

[Frozen Angel]

and LOL you missed the conftown in your block

[Frozen Angel]

Forgetting things its not scummy. making such town block right after the knowledge that we have 5 scums and 6 town / which I'm not sure why yet/ is scummy.

so your read on me has changed over night?

I was believing your day 1 fight with pista is scum/town the way you tunneled pista wasn't healthy. now pista is proven a fallen town. My believe about you being a scum who killed titus and forgot that there is another kill in night (grib) is making me think you slipped.

the way you joined Titus town block was even more interesting. why you did that? to take credits and be known as town by the majority.

[Frozen Angel]

you forgot the other night kill and our confirmed town. and change your read on me without talking about it?

[Frozen Angel]

Even nights commuter

[Frozen Angel]

W8 a minute dweele where is this pig sudden town read came from?

[Frozen Angel]

Shiro I think 6 remaining scums are very unlikely. It must be 4 or 5

[Frozen Angel]

ha?

[Frozen Angel]

piggi you don't understand that I'm just like a vanilla town and my only use is to just get bullets in even nights? which I couldn't clearly get them ?

this is the worst FOS I ever heard in my life.

plus there is a PR who gave shiro a guilty result. you think mafia will kill me - someone without any pr roles or just go on killing other towns to find the pr?

[Frozen Angel]

Why Elyse our confirmed town is still alive? You ever thinked about that?

[Frozen Angel]

pig was never a town read of titus was he?

and someone gave shiro a guilty result no guilty on shiro

pedit : nice!

[Frozen Angel]

Commuters can't get shot on the nights they commute. So if you are an even night commuter, why not shoot you on an odd night (3) to get rid of a semi-confirmed town? If it's multi ball, too many townies is bad for them.

WHY SHOULDN'T THEY KILL THE CONFIRMED TOWN ? why are you talking about the semi confirmed town?

[Frozen Angel]

why Espe is town again? I think Espe - Shinobi are the best choices for being one of the scum teams ...

pedit : I'm talking about the guilty result on dave . ARE you reading the thread pignash? Why should mafia kill me knowing I have no power but Just commuting in even nights?!

GET OUT OF HERE. THEY WANTED A TOWN PR DEAD. I HAVE NO INFORMATION

why should they kill me?!

[Frozen Angel]

pig can be scum. trying to set me up with not killing me...

[Frozen Angel]

This is all looked preplanned ............
...

[Frozen Angel]

no its because of her tunnel on titus ...

[Frozen Angel]

We need to settle this me - elyse - shiro are definitely town I like to add drixx as well if noone has problem with that.

VOTE: Nosferato yeah nero can't be town at this point

pedit : pig is definitely scum, I have no doubt ....

[Frozen Angel]

and that guy is saying "I'm not reading the thread" ....

[Frozen Angel]

I am reading. So that means there is probably an amnesiac. I thought shiro got confirmed vanilla because Titus gave him a role cop 1 shot. But that means we still don't know who killed aj.

lol

we know there are two factions. why your not caring about the failed night kill. Why aj kill is so important for you atm?

[Frozen Angel]

Stop face palming. I thought the aj kill was the only one we knew for sure was a Dave's faction kill. Was hoping to gain insight there.

how we know that?

[Frozen Angel]

Stop face palming. I thought the aj kill was the only one we knew for sure was a Dave's faction kill. Was hoping to gain insight there.

how we know that?

HOW WE KNOW THAT PIG ?

[Frozen Angel]

hmmm

[Frozen Angel]

You said that after Shiro confirmed she got a massage and she didn't watch dave ... ^^

[Frozen Angel]

he* ?

[Frozen Angel]

or well more specifically, not aligned with town. You know casual cop night resault.

confrimation of a normal cop massage ^

I am reading. So that means there is probably an amnesiac. I thought shiro got confirmed vanilla because Titus gave him a role cop 1 shot. But that means we still don't know who killed aj.

claiming you though role cop

I am reading. So that means there is probably an amnesiac. I thought shiro got confirmed vanilla because Titus gave him a role cop 1 shot. But that means we still don't know who killed aj.

lol

we know there are two factions. why your not caring about the failed night kill. Why aj kill is so important for you atm?

I asked why aj?

We don't know that now. I thought shiro would have watched Dave kill him and that's how we know.

and you changed your story to watcher

[Frozen Angel]

I think I might wanna review Dave associatives.

[Frozen Angel]

Your very likely town But not Confirmed town Drixx please don't go there.

pedit : I need to recheck. I'm pretty sure we have more conf mafia at this point

[Frozen Angel]

scum confess!?

Intent to hammer

[Frozen Angel]

soon I guess ... If anyone has nothing to contribute

[Frozen Angel]

yep 6 votes : Shinobi , Shiro , Elyse , Nosferato , FB , Heat

it was the hammer

[Frozen Angel]

that force replace out ...

[Frozen Angel]

You allowed to say what happened?

well sig stuff

I had no idea its not allowed till game end

[Frozen Angel]

Frozen put in her sig a quote from this game that, if read into, compromised her alignment. Luckily nobody noticed except the mods.

no

not at all

it was the same thing I answered in the game ... wtf. I never claimed I'm scum

[Frozen Angel]

He said he saw I burnt people as scum and he hopes I'm not in this game who is that a trust tell for me?! :/

[Frozen Angel]

Please don't exaggerate what happened at least ...

[Frozen Angel]

Because putting it in your signature means "haha i've tricked you as scum." I've got an entire page on my wiki for things people have said about me when I was tricking them as scum. You wouldn't put something like that in your signature if you were town because it's not a trophy that you're town and someone thinks you could be scum because you're tricksy, that's just an ordinary thing. it's only signature worthy if you're actually tricking them.

If I had been a player in this game, I would have treated your in game response to Firebringer as a scum claim. It was only funny because you were really scum and you wouldn't have been laughing that hard if you were town so I would have lynched you.

The site rule though is that you can't talk about ongoing games, and putting a quote from an ongoing game into your signature counts as talking about ongoing games.

1 - that wasn't related to this game

2 - it wasn't a scum claim about this game

3 - I had no idea about that site rule about the signature thing

4 - that signature had no relation to this game

5 - I'm sure you didn't even read what was the signature or who this thing happened so how the fuck you think you can comment about it?

6 - You can Shut the fuck up were you are. Because you just prove how jerk you are by even posting this

7 - I wish you were in game to crush you after your push about it

[Frozen Angel]

putting a quote from an ongoing game into your signature counts as talking about ongoing games.

Aye

This is the more important thing really, so arguing the semantics of the other part is kinda pointless

1 - I repeat it wasn't a claim about this game

2 - I had no idea that you can't put quotes from ongoing games in your signature

3 - It wasn't even 1% close to be a scum claim

4 - I got force replaced out so whats your deal ?

[Frozen Angel]

Fuck you all

[Frozen Angel]

oh and thats a scum claim!

nice

[Frozen Angel]

I would do exactly the same reaction as town.

You have no fucking idea

so shut the fuck up when you can't read me

[Frozen Angel]

Like wtf who do you think you are?

[Frozen Angel]

I never cheat about my games and I never ruin them.


I never did that and I never do that ever

This is a fucking insult your just doing

[Frozen Angel]

You should take this to a listmod if you have an issue. And out of this thread whatever else you do

oh I don't fucking care

[Frozen Angel]

spescially when you say this

[Frozen Angel]

Good. I hope you still dont care when people stop playing with you.

no worries

I don't like to play with Jerks like you

thx very much

[Frozen Angel]

and I prefer to not play at all if I'm forced to play with people like you

[Frozen Angel]

and for the record that replacing in as my slot

was like holy shit

wasn't there anyone else?

why should you be the one who steps in my slot ?

LIke fr god sake you want to suffer me?

[Frozen Angel]

Honestly I'm not angry about the force replace out

I did a rule violation [without the knowledge]

whats making me angry is the fact plot sees himself in the top of the word and the fact he has the right to just blame me for it ...

yeah man you have no right to do so

and the fact Pisskop , the man in MS who I really HATE , should be the one who replaces in my slot

[Frozen Angel]

oh your good people

keep up the good work

I'm just an idiot stupid cheater emotional angry bitch freak arrogant girl

I don't fucking care

happy ?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm just an idiot stupid cheater emotional angry bitch freak arrogant girl

I meant it

also I'm confirmed insane

[Frozen Angel]

Frogger asked me to replace another slot before yours, and I declined as a gesture of recognition towards your hurt feels. Once you were gone there was no reason not to.

Oh and thats not changeing the fact you came in to my slot and humiliated me with that

YOUR MY FUCKING ENEMY IN MS

DON'T DARE COMING CLOSE TO ME

I will burn you to ashes

understood?

[Frozen Angel]

Plot I'm sorry.

I'm feeling like the worst person of the universe right now after reading last post

I repeat it wasn't a claim about this game

The quote was from this game. Hence, it breaks the site rule about not talking about ongoing games etc etc.

You're lucky all you got was a force replacement, if you ask me.

Also, your attack on Plotinus is entirely unwarranted. Please stop.

You're a nice person, but things have overwhelmed you - I'd recommend staying away and taking a little break. Please?

I know I broke the rule. I know I deserved the force replace out, I accepted it without arguing.

But I never cheated. I never scum claimed. That wasn't telling I'm scum .

I can't accept the coming accusations right now

last sentense is a blant lie. I'm not a nice person. not even close.

I can't handle this pressure. i feel Like I'm cracking from inside . I go start drinking or something ...

bye

[Frozen Angel]

FA, why wasn't I shot?

Oh and game wasn't townsided. We lynched scum for 3 or 4 lynches in a row and won in lylo.

My mind is blocked.

I can't recall stuff

I answer later

or you read the pt anyway

[Frozen Angel]

I targeted RC becuase I felt he is lying low - more than his usual , I felt he is in the other scum team or have a pr role

we discussed pt for the next kill and we end up killing Aj becuase my first day roleblock. we felt he is in the other scum team and I was the kill blocker in night 1

we killed titus in night 3 becuase you were an obvious powerfull town / or other team scum

and I don't even recall the next nights so I guess I was replaced out then

[Frozen Angel]

I was thinking titus will be the other team kill. I have no idea why they didn't went for it

[Frozen Angel]

Plot can you forgive me for my emotional rage ?

I'm really feeling bad about myself

please say you forgive me

pedit : But I was right anyway

[Frozen Angel]

It's okay, Frozen. I think you misunderstood what I meant when I said scumclaim. I didn't mean a claim on purpose, just a post that would ping my scumdar and make me think you were scum if I were playing. I don't think you cheated or that you did it in on purpose, just that if I were town I wouldn't see a town motivation for responding the way you did so I would have scumread you.

I know sometimes I've said things when I was scum that I wouldn't have said when I was town, because as scum I have a different wincondition that I'm playing to, and sometimes people don't notice and it's okay and sometimes they do notice and I have to talk my way out of it.

Take care of yourself, Frozen.

pedit: of course I forgive you. It's okay. You didn't hurt me.

Just know for the fact that these reads might a bit be different when their about me.

I experienced things normal people didn't. I might enjoy pain and just stab a knife to someone for fun. I was under heavy treatments for 3 years and they still check me.

the fact I wanted to put that sentense in my sig wasn't even close to be like my scum games. if it was my town game I would do that without asking his permissions for it.

Rc had a scum tell of me. and that was really accurate. i get frustrated and ask people to leave me alone when I'm really guilty. I'm siriously hiding it after he compromised it like that. if you want to have an emotional read on me first put everyone else aside. Imagine yourself as me / in the craziest emotional matter/ then think I do them as town or scum. or you fail.

and I never cheat. I never ruin my games. the fact people keep saying thatin my games is the real reason for this rage. the fact people say I'm emotional and I'm ruining their games brings back the dark me.

I can't control myself that much. I'm trying so hard for that, But I can't.

[Frozen Angel]

if you can kick pisskop out of here I'm up for the hug

[Frozen Angel]

if you can kick pisskop out of here I'm up for the hug

Please drop it with your pisskop deal.

He politely refused to join another slot because he knew you wouldn't want him to play with you. Once you were gone, I asked him to replace into your slot, and he agreed. It shouldn't matter who replaced into your slot after you were gone.

Also - if it was up to me, I probably would have modkilled your slot, but the listmod said it was *probably* ok if we just force replaced. I'm just glad nobody in the game caught it, because yeah, your slot would have probably been insta-lynched for it had any of the players noticed, then I would have felt bad for not modkilling instead.

NO

I won't drop it with Pisskop. I don't care if he was this good to refuse another slot. that was for his own sake. if he did that then I would ask to replace out myself.

I felt like someone stabbed a knife into my back when I saw Pisskop in my slot.

I was 100% more happy with a mod kill. I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT MY OLD TEAM SITUATION. I FELT HIMALUATED WHEN I SAW PISSKOP THERE.

SO STOP TELLING ME LIKE YOU DID A FAVOR FOR ME HERE.

[Frozen Angel]

AND AGAIN I NEVER SCUM CLAIMED

I WILL FUCKING CUT YOUR HEAD OF OR SOMETHING IF YOU REALLY FEEL THAT FEEL THAT

I DON'T FUCKING CARE

[Frozen Angel]

for god sake

[Frozen Angel]

I'm fucking done with you all

go fuck yourself

[Frozen Angel]

NO I don't need to talk

I want to do something stupid

CAN I KILL SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ? Can I burn myself?

[Frozen Angel]

thats how stupid am I ?

you wanna shout that loader than me?

oh sorry you can't!

I'm STUPID

[Frozen Angel]

But FA please calm down D:

or what?

[Frozen Angel]

Nobody's threatening you.

I'm threatening myself

[Frozen Angel]

But FA please calm down D:

or what?

Well there wasn't really an or what statement to my plead. It was just that.

thx for the request anyway.