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Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:40 am

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I'm trying to figure this game out. I get pinned for this in every lategame gorky :\
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Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:41 am

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im just sayin'. and im trying not to let it influence me too much because iirc hippylove gave me scumvibes for similar reasons. im just falafeled at some of the reactions youve had. in particular the way you flailed at people scumreading you earlier. q.q
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Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 921, hiplop wrote:Anti convince me.on firebringer? I honestly have never been able to read the guy

In post 924, hiplop wrote:Yea, his "I don't scumhubt" pissed me off but I'm not sure if he just bothers me or if he's scum

In post 929, hiplop wrote:
In post 926, Antihero wrote:that's horseshit, btw. i know firebringer knows how to scumhunt and will do it as town even if he eventually falls into apathy. ppl don't replace into games and then immediately become apathetic though.

Honestly dude I think you might be giving him too much credit. Many games with me he has replaced in and done absolutely nothing, refusing to read the game

these are absolutely the only things that would make me think hiplop is scum so that's the same level of "what the fuck"

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Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 2423, Gorkington wrote:hippy. i dont like how scattered youre being. :(

I thought I figured it all out. Wis/Scatter

But apparently I was wrong. That fucking sucks and makes me mad.

pedit: I get mad. you know that.

pedit: See? right there. I can't read firebringer.
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Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:44 am

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like idk man, look at any game with me as firebringer and you'll see the resentment to play with him cuz while I think hes an alright guy I think hes a borderline troll that is just so hard to read cuz he barely plays
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Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:44 am

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do you think it isnt sketchy that you keep excusing the fire situation with that reason though?
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Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:45 am

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ank?
really?

ank really fucking knows how to work those buttons this game then and i am seriously losing my touch.
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Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:46 am

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In post 2426, Gorkington wrote:im just sayin'. and im trying not to let it influence me too much because iirc hippylove gave me scumvibes for similar reasons. im just falafeled at some of the reactions youve had. in particular the way you flailed at people scumreading you earlier. q.q

I know. I got this in inorganic chemistry, Hitchcock, villains, clue. Its like the go-to way to get me lynched is my fliphipflopping votes/scattery view of things

pedit: OF COURSE IT IS SKETCHY. But its the truth? Like I'd come up with some actual reason if I was scum but guess what? I just can't play with him because to me he is a troll.
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Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:51 am

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have you ever pushed this same reasoning as hard for why you didnt want to vote for fire in another game?
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Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:52 am

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or is there another game recently that you could link where you misread fire hard because of his trollishness?
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Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:53 am

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literally every time he replaces in

let me see
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Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:53 am

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wis, if expedience ends up being scum, you suck
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Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:56 am

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Well it's my least confident townread after hiplop/Ank. If it isn't one of them, it's him.

There's no way I'll ever consider you or Gork to be scum, Ranger just isn't, and after today Scatterplot aren't either.
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Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:04 am

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In post 2392, Scatterplot wrote:We're still lynching hiplop today. Let's be absolutely clear. And we're not going to rush that, either; Plotinus has analysis they want to do first, and there's something I want to hash out with them.

But I do think Ankamius's reaction is from scum.

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Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:05 am

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@gorky weird example but its hard to remember this sorta thing in specific games

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7389924

ISO us that game. I make it pretty clear I can't read him. Mollie thought she caught him as scum and I
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let her do her thing there. I just can't do it. At all. Ever.
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Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 552, hiplop wrote:Anyways: the thing about firebringer is dude plays WAY too many games at once and doesn't seem to care much about dying as town. As scum he tries to fabricate that.

that was me as scum trying to mislynch him while admitting I couldn't read him.

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Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:08 am

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In post 2357, Scatterplot wrote:I don't know how to read Ank; but it's also PoE for me. I did feel like he looked more town in Blitz 20 than he does here.

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Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:21 am

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The defense of hiplop was way too over the top to be believable. Pushing him as Spiffeh's Night 2 innocent? The two of you are cornered now, and you're feeling it.

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Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:23 am

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[i also thought that. why is there so much absolutism in this game q.q]
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Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:23 am

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Ank may very well be trying to tie himself to me.
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Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:24 am

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In post 2441, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2357, Scatterplot wrote:I don't know how to read Ank; but it's also PoE for me. I did feel like he looked more town in Blitz 20 than he does here.

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Explain this.


I thought this was a really great question:

In post 344, Ankamius wrote:
In post 343, pisskop wrote:ank. be town. We want to kill Xtox or apparently almost 50


What is the best single post in the entire thread detailing why either of these slots are scum?


When you had just replaced in and were trying to dive into the game as quickly as you could. I think I will steal this question for future use. I don't recall seeing questions of this calibre from your slot in this game, not even when you were looking lost and trying to find your footing which we were townreading you for earlier on because we had felt similar things. And sometimes the things a person does to ground themselves in the game and refocus aren't fully visible in the thread but...as frustrated as you appeared to be, and I don't doubt that the frustration was genuine to some extent because I've been frustrated by similar things as both alignments, but I didn't see you taking steps to fix it.

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Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:25 am

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Do you understand how the gamestate looks in this situation as town who is townreading the one on the chopping block?
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Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:27 am

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In post 2443, Gorkington wrote:[i also thought that. why is there so much absolutism in this game q.q]
Oh, huh. Okay.

I'm still in the "it can't be anyone except {Ankamius, Expedience, hiplop}" camp, though.

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Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:32 am

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In post 2445, Scatterplot wrote:
In post 2441, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2357, Scatterplot wrote:I don't know how to read Ank; but it's also PoE for me. I did feel like he looked more town in Blitz 20 than he does here.

--P


Explain this.


I thought this was a really great question:

In post 344, Ankamius wrote:
In post 343, pisskop wrote:ank. be town. We want to kill Xtox or apparently almost 50


What is the best single post in the entire thread detailing why either of these slots are scum?


When you had just replaced in and were trying to dive into the game as quickly as you could. I think I will steal this question for future use. I don't recall seeing questions of this calibre from your slot in this game, not even when you were looking lost and trying to find your footing which we were townreading you for earlier on because we had felt similar things. And sometimes the things a person does to ground themselves in the game and refocus aren't fully visible in the thread but...as frustrated as you appeared to be, and I don't doubt that the frustration was genuine to some extent because I've been frustrated by similar things as both alignments, but I didn't see you taking steps to fix it.

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I'm always aware of my position as town and it's the very first thing I look for when I first replace into a game. The reason I specifically started demanding things in that game is because I had read just enough to know that I had replaced into a slot that already looked significantly town. I know I can get away with demanding more effort is because I have found out over time that people are significantly less likely to want to engage things like this when I look anything less than mid-level town, so I specifically start smaller to find enough holes to get people to open up. When I hit dead ends, I drop them and look somewhere else.
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Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:33 am

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In post 2444, hiplop wrote:Ank may very well be trying to tie himself to me.


Why would I do this as scum with you as town when the prevailing opinion is that the lynch order is you->me?

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