Machina Mafia (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, understand that I don't just play differently than both of you, I'm an entire other ballpark. Both of you today are gonna go back and review posts and come to an informed conclusion based on "logic and fact" and I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of how you're going to come to a different result than you came to before?

Like, that's my thing. I need to generate content and reactions to feel even remotely confident today. I hope that at least one of you gets on this bandwagon with me, and starts playing this game with me, because you'll se very quickly, that once you engage me, my town motivations are clear.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I won't be posting much content before I'll re-read the game.
I really need that because I've already forgot half of the events in the game.

I mean, you do what you think is best, I just like...

I don't grasp the concept, and I'd so prefer to have a buddy who is willing to play reaction/intent/motivation ping pong with me.

Like, that instead of actively going through a library of awkward content, chooses to give me the chance to read them correctly, by engaging me on a field that I can understand.

Because I'm expecting both of you to post huge fucking walls that I won't read because they'll be dull and easily replicable by scum. EASILY faked.

So... I mean, do you, but please consider.

[Titus]

Why are you supposing I will come to a different conclusion?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why are you supposing I will come to a different conclusion?

?

Is this directed at me?

[Netherspite]

1. Now we know the flips which will make us reading many posts in a completely different way knowing it's coming from scum or town perspective.
2. I can't read emotions, it's tough for me to read motivations (but I'm trying) so yes, I'm using mostly logic. I agree it may be not a best way to play Mafia but that's what I can do.
3. When I had played less games I thought that whatever people say at LyLo matters much. However, LyLo is a moment when motivation of scum and town become closer than never before. That's why it's really hard to distinguish alignment by content generated in LyLo.
Personally I'm just sharing my thoughts openly, answer questions and stuff but don't value others' content high. Scum would say whatever to win the game.
4. I won't be posting walls. Really. I'll try to figure out who of you is scum. If you both will come to a conclusion that I'm scum, my final decision won't matter at all. We'll still lose. And if at least one of you will come to the conclusion I'm town after re-reading the game or w/e, we'll have a chance of winning and making that chance higher is my primary task for now.

[Titus]

Like, understand that I don't just play differently than both of you, I'm an entire other ballpark. Both of you today are gonna go back and review posts and come to an informed conclusion based on "logic and fact" and I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of how you're going to come to a different result than you came to before?

Like, that's my thing. I need to generate content and reactions to feel even remotely confident today. I hope that at least one of you gets on this bandwagon with me, and starts playing this game with me, because you'll se very quickly, that once you engage me, my town motivations are clear.

Last question first paragraph. Why do you feel certain I am going to reach a different result?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll assume it is and respond and if it isn't then oh well I don't care.

I'm not assuming you'll come to a different conclusion, I'm afraid you're fucking scum, Titus.

I'm legitimately afraid that you've been buddying me since day fucking 1, and I've held a blindspot for you, amplified by the good I thoguht you were doing with the neighbourhood.

I'm also afraid OF THAT FEAR. That my own paranoia about you might drive me to make a wrong choice and I won''t forgive myself.

I take losses as town extremely hard, especially ones where I was in control and couldn't win the game for my team.

I'm less concerned that one of you will read me incorrectly. I think that both of you will see, through the way I play, that I'm town and in the end that's all I CAN do.

I can't control either of your opinions on me, and I know for sure that one of you is scum, so only one of your opinions actually matters.

So for the moment, instead of worrying about what I can't control (i.e: being read correctly as town) I'll just let my play do the talking for me, and focus on what I CAN control (i.e: correctly figuring out which of you is scum).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, understand that I don't just play differently than both of you, I'm an entire other ballpark. Both of you today are gonna go back and review posts and come to an informed conclusion based on "logic and fact" and I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of how you're going to come to a different result than you came to before?

Like, that's my thing. I need to generate content and reactions to feel even remotely confident today. I hope that at least one of you gets on this bandwagon with me, and starts playing this game with me, because you'll se very quickly, that once you engage me, my town motivations are clear.

Last question first paragraph. Why do you feel certain I am going to reach a different result?

I don't see above.

It's not in my control what you see, it's only in my control what I do and what I see.

So I figure, if one of you comes and plays this game with me, not only will I get a solid read on you, but if you're TOWN you might also get a solid town read on me.

Which are both requirements to win the game today for town, SO.

[Netherspite]

@LLD

, permission to paraphrase stuff from the hood without timestamps is given so I'll start tomorrow (going to sleep soon).

[Netherspite]

Well, I'll just ...

VOTE: The Scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

1. Now we know the flips which will make us reading many posts in a completely different way knowing it's coming from scum or town perspective.
2. I can't read emotions, it's tough for me to read motivations (but I'm trying) so yes, I'm using mostly logic. I agree it may be not a best way to play Mafia but that's what I can do.
3. When I had played less games I thought that whatever people say at LyLo matters much. However, LyLo is a moment when motivation of scum and town become closer than never before. That's why it's really hard to distinguish alignment by content generated in LyLo.
Personally I'm just sharing my thoughts openly, answer questions and stuff but don't value others' content high. Scum would say whatever to win the game.
4. I won't be posting walls. Really. I'll try to figure out who of you is scum. If you both will come to a conclusion that I'm scum, my final decision won't matter at all. We'll still lose. And if at least one of you will come to the conclusion I'm town after re-reading the game or w/e, we'll have a chance of winning and making that chance higher is my primary task for now.

Ok, then meet me half way.

If your posting isn't... atrociously dull, I'll run through your points and give my opinions.

Conversely, don't singularly rely on that for your reads today. Participate in what I'm doing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD

, permission to paraphrase stuff from the hood without timestamps is given so I'll start tomorrow (going to sleep soon).

Best kind, thanks.

[Titus]

Speaking of which:
{Lady Lambdadelta}
{Courier New, Minami no Hana, Nethersprite, Spiffeh, DiamondSentinel}
{SnarkySnowman}
{SDB, Void Protectorate, hi im Yakko}
{hi im Yakko, PeregrineV}
{Firebringer}
{The Random Encounter, Imperium}
{Stairway to the Abyss, Wisdom}

I think I have my decision, but I will not state what it is yet to see what happens.

I see the wishes of the dead as Tammy + Antihero vote Nether
Marquis + Spiffeh are vote LLD

[Netherspite]

I'd say wishes of the dead were almost all vote Nether up to some point where I actually started to play the game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Titus, I really enjoy being asked questions and then having zero response for my answers.

Like, it's really hard to get a read on you when you do that and it's fucking annoying.

[Netherspite]

Ok, then meet me half way.

If your posting isn't... atrociously dull, I'll run through your points and give my opinions.

Conversely, don't singularly rely on that for your reads today. Participate in what I'm doing.

I will participate but it won't affect my reads most likely.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, then meet me half way.

If your posting isn't... atrociously dull, I'll run through your points and give my opinions.

Conversely, don't singularly rely on that for your reads today. Participate in what I'm doing.

I will participate but it won't affect my reads most likely.

I mean... that's kind of literally half way, which is funny.

I suppose that's fine, as long as I can read you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Speaking of which:
{Lady Lambdadelta}
{Courier New, Minami no Hana, Nethersprite, Spiffeh, DiamondSentinel}
{SnarkySnowman}
{SDB, Void Protectorate, hi im Yakko}
{hi im Yakko, PeregrineV}
{Firebringer}
{The Random Encounter, Imperium}
{Stairway to the Abyss, Wisdom}

I think I have my decision, but I will not state what it is yet to see what happens.

I see the wishes of the dead as Tammy + Antihero vote Nether
Marquis + Spiffeh are vote LLD

Also what the fuck does that Ika post have to do with anything, Titus?

Like, why are you choosing today to be cryptic as fuck and make literally no sense.

[Netherspite]

I don't mind helping you with reading me for the case you're town.
So if you want anything from me I'm up for it.

[Netherspite]

I think she has made some conclusion from analyzing that readlist.
I tried to do the same, to be honest, but ... it's too WIFOMy for me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't mind helping you with reading me for the case you're town.
So if you want anything from me I'm up for it.

Ok, let's start here.

Why the fuck is Titus being so fucking cryptic today?

[Netherspite]

What conclusion I got to when I was trying to analyze that readslist was Marquis being most likely town.
Only that.

[Netherspite]

Titus is being cryptic because moonlogic I guess.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think she has made some conclusion from analyzing that readlist.
I tried to do the same, to be honest, but ... it's too WIFOMy for me.

What conclusion?

Ika town read both of us, and he town read me for whatever that stupid "OMG LLD TOWNSLIPPED" bullshit he was pulling to try and make it look like he was offering content.

So I don't really see what kind of conclusion she's drawing from that.

[Netherspite]

Ika townread you and scumread Titus.
You're on completely different poles of his read spectre.
The problem with that for me is I expect the last scum to be on one of the poles of this spectre Don't know which one.