Mini 1758: Game Over


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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:50 am

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In post 510, a plain farmer wrote:I wasn't one of the ones Elyse was talking about, but, for example, you scum lurked to a large degree in Uncouth Mafia, Star Trek DS9, Spring Waltz, and Open 609 and semi-lurked in Inorganic Chemistry and Open 607.

You were active town in
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, NY 182, Micro 537, and Opens 606, 610, 611, 613, 614, and 618.

These were the first games of yours I came across when I went looking, so it's not like I cherrypicked them, and in none did I see you as lurker town.

Mini 1758 is what we are playing now. How did it come to be included in a list of games Ika was active town in?

I'd like you to describe your research in as much detail as possible, particularly the selection of games to include.
Because I am
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doubting the sincerity of your research here.

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:52 am

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The night kill tracks back to RC I think. Acryon was one of the only people scumreading him.
P-Edit: Is that a scumslip from Farmer?
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:54 am

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Possibly.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:54 am

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My dear townies, Cakez was pretty quick to jump on the Ika wagon himself...then even quicker to scold other people for hammering/wagoning/etc.
I thought it was a righteous lurkerwagon...that maybe could have sat at L-1 a bit longer...but sometimes you break some eggs.
The speed, tho? There was probably some scum on there. Named Cakez, for one.

I also am interested in this point Tictac raises, however.
"if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:56 am

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I said the hammer sucked, not the wagon. As I said I still wanted to talk to Loki and Tictac more.
And I had been scumreading ika for forever so obviously I was going to jump on the wagon. Tictac made no mention of an ika scumread at all then was the second vote on the wagon? I don't buy it.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:58 am

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Slept peacefully. Will have meaningful post later.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:59 am

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There's no night results here Loki.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:08 am

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In post 554, SirCakez wrote:I said the hammer sucked, not the wagon. As I said I still wanted to talk to Loki and Tictac more.
And I had been scumreading ika for forever so obviously I was going to jump on the wagon. Tictac made no mention of an ika scumread at all then was the second vote on the wagon? I don't buy it.

I took the existence of Ikas lurker-meta on faith.
I don't think I was wrong to do so. At least Ika himself seems to think the meta-tell is a good one here:
Subject: Micro 537: the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (Game Over)

ika wrote:
In post 302, notscience wrote:
In post 299, Luna Fox wrote:I thought ika was lurky as scum?


Lurking as scum is the easiest thing to break.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, thats rich, like you you think its jsut a snap of the finger thing i can break... AHAHAHAHAHAHHA thats funny
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:15 am

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I agree tictac.. What do you think about Cakez immediately going after people on the wagon tho?
Not just yourself, but also Elyse, Farmer AND SRMP.

That's a lot of shit-slinging for a wagon on someone he allegedly was scumreading, no?
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:17 am

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When did I attack SRMP, Elyse and Farmer?
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:30 am

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In post 558, camn wrote:I agree tictac.. What do you think about Cakez immediately going after people on the wagon tho?
Not just yourself, but also Elyse, Farmer AND SRMP.

That's a lot of shit-slinging for a wagon on someone he allegedly was scumreading, no?

Well, the wagon
did
reach completion way too fast for my liking.
Elyse & Farmed did both take a dip for me too, and the Rando "I'm just pressuring, don't blame me if this goes to lynch" attitude was sketch as hell.
Can't really say I disagree with those points.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 559, SirCakez wrote:When did I attack SRMP, Elyse and Farmer?

In post 542, SirCakez wrote:I also don't like how Elyse pushed this early hammer on ika. Plain Farmer and Elyse both dropping in my reads.

In post 499, SirCakez wrote:I also dislike how SRMP just popped in to vote ika and failed to comment on anything in the thread from the past two days.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:33 am

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Oh I thought camn meant today.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:35 am

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Yeah I stand by those posts. Especially considering ika flipped town, with the speed of that wagon I'm pretty sure at least two scum were on it.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:39 am

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Why two?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 539, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:>I wasent here to unvote

well fuck


This is a scummy post. I don't think a townie voices regrets of his vote prior to the flip.

In post 550, tictac wrote:
In post 510, a plain farmer wrote:I wasn't one of the ones Elyse was talking about, but, for example, you scum lurked to a large degree in Uncouth Mafia, Star Trek DS9, Spring Waltz, and Open 609 and semi-lurked in Inorganic Chemistry and Open 607.

You were active town in
Mini 1758
, NY 182, Micro 537, and Opens 606, 610, 611, 613, 614, and 618.

These were the first games of yours I came across when I went looking, so it's not like I cherrypicked them, and in none did I see you as lurker town.

Mini 1758 is what we are playing now. How did it come to be included in a list of games Ika was active town in?

I'd like you to describe your research in as much detail as possible, particularly the selection of games to include.
Because I am
kinda
doubting the sincerity of your research here.

VOTE: Farmer


I began by clicking on the link to ika's threads in his profile to find games he was in. There were a lot of threads that weren't game threads, so I changed the filter so that it organized posts by forum. However, I couldn't sort by date with this filter, and I was more interested in recent games, so I instead just looked in the game forums themselves for games ika was in. Those are the games I found, and he seems to disproportionately prefer Opens. "Mini 1758" is apparently a malapropism for the Mini I found, I can't remember which.


I agree that the speed at which yesterday's lynch was achieved is scummy (especially considering how little momentum all the other wagons except SirCakez's were able to gain). It was fast enough to suggest that there were two scum on the wagon. If it was indeed a case of scum scrambling to save SirCakez, then those two scum are probably in {SirCakez, SRMP, UpTooLate, tictac} (the members of ika's wagon that weren't on SirCakez).

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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:42 am

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Because the wagon went from zero to five votes in one page. That doesn't happen with only one scum vote.

Specifically looking at the people who gave little to no reason with their votes. So Tictac, UTL, SRMP.
A plain farmer at least backed up his vote but his hammer came way too early.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:45 am

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If I was scum and ika was a counterwagon to me, then why did Elyse, someone who was vehemently scumreading me, start that wagon?

And an acryon kill makes no sense for scum me because he was one of the few people defending me.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:47 am

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Also where the hell has Zulfy gone? Did he just forget about the game?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:51 am

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Elyse suddenly jumping wagons like that would be scummy under normal circumstances, but her reason seemed sound enough to me that I'll disregard it for now.

I apologize to anyone who had wished for more answers on D1. In retrospect, I shouldn't have hammered that night.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:02 am

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In post 566, SirCakez wrote:Because the wagon went from zero to five votes in one page. That doesn't happen with only one scum vote.

Specifically looking at the people who gave little to no reason with their votes. So Tictac, UTL, SRMP.
A plain farmer at least backed up his vote but his hammer came way too early.



I sheeped the hell out of that because Ika was incredibly inactive. I agree with camn. You were supposedly scumreading that slot anyway, but as soon as it flips town you start pointing fingers. Would you still be pointing fingers if we had scumread him for the same reasons as you had?



I'm going to look at the farmer now.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:05 am

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In post 567, SirCakez wrote:If I was scum and ika was a counterwagon to me, then why did Elyse, someone who was vehemently scumreading me, start that wagon?

And an acryon kill makes no sense for scum me because he was one of the few people defending me.

This is awful. Lynch it please.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 555, Lokiben wrote:Slept peacefully. Will have meaningful post later.

In post 556, SirCakez wrote:There's no night results here Loki.

What's this about?
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 555, Lokiben wrote:Slept peacefully. Will have meaningful post later.

It's your scumday too?!?!?

That's four people I know.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:51 am

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I'm not sure what I should be doing today.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.

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