Mini 1761: Red Neighborhood - Day 2

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm saying the claim was completely unnecessary

Rica respond to one thing I said before posting like an idiot

[JohnnyFarrar]

Though I will agree with Rica that early claims are usually townclaims in my experience

[Persivul]

Lowell:

36 is too early to call people town but he did that in our last game and he was town. 117 makes a really big deal about inasnity's first major post. 205 - don't like people naming a town block this early and especially putting themselves in it. 328 is better. 373 - when I read this the first time I was on insanity's side and I still am. I don't recall town lowell being this cocky. 385 - repeats he's in a town block. Seriously? Confidence now reading like false bravado. 467 switches to SRMP, an easy target.

I read his D1 play in Open 622 (he was town). In that game he moved his vote around for pressure at first and made no mention of a town block. This game he vote parked on insanity for almost a week and is proclaiming he's in a town block.

DrCirno:

WTF is 19 - double votes dwlee and says he's L-1 when he's L-3. The 148 - 149 - 231 reaction test was weird. How do you read Garmr? I know frogger likes to push a town read to see who jumps on, but I'm not a big fan of the tactic. The rest of the ISO is mostly questions and benign discussion. I don't see a single push.

[Lowell]

I of course put myself in a town block. What's the point of having a town block and not putting oneself in it? Is that supposed to be modesty or something? As for town blocks, I don't use them or not use them particularly, it's just how I read each game. Sometimes I find it easier to identify scum, other times I can identify town. This game I got townreads before I got scumreads. At any rate, I'm not sure the problem you have with "town blocks" generally. What's the difference between that and saying "I think these ppl are scum, while these ppl I think are town?"

[DiamondSentinel]

THAnk you for Those Wise clArificationS, Puzzles are indeed fun, diamOnd sentINel, now i beTter know the ruLES... and knowing iS half the battle!

I missed this the first time around, but this is 100% your ONLY warning. You MAY NOT even pretend to break the rules, especially in a disrespectful manner. Next time WILL be a modkill.

That goes for you, too, Aristophanes.

[Persivul]

I of course put myself in a town block. What's the point of having a town block and not putting oneself in it? Is that supposed to be modesty or something? As for town blocks, I don't use them or not use them particularly, it's just how I read each game. Sometimes I find it easier to identify scum, other times I can identify town. This game I got townreads before I got scumreads. At any rate, I'm not sure the problem you have with "town blocks" generally. What's the difference between that and saying "I think these ppl are scum, while these ppl I think are town?"

In my experience and opinion saying that people are in a town block implies that you have very strong town reads on them that are unlikely to change. Merely saying

I think these people are town

is much weaker. Declaring a town block and putting yourself in it is a form of buddying.

[DiamondSentinel]

Vote Count 1.11

Dwlee99 [1]:

Some Random Mafia Player

JohnnyFarrar [1]:

Ricastle

Lowell [2]:

hasta_la_pasta, insanity018

Ricastle [2]:

Aristophanes, JohnnyFarrar

Some Random Mafia Player [5]:

Dwlee, Garmr, Lowell, Nosferatu, Number_0ne

Not Voting [2]

: DrCirno, Persivul

7 Votes are required to obtain a lynch. 7 votes are also required to obtain a no-lynch prior to deadline.
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2016-02-20 12:00:00)

[Dwlee99]

We need srmp votes

[Persivul]

We need srmp votes

We have 4 days left.

What's your thoughts on Ari and Johnny voting together on Rica?

[Dwlee99]

We need srmp votes

We have 4 days left.

What's your thoughts on Ari and Johnny voting together on Rica?

Bussing is a thing so I don't think it matters.

[Persivul]

@Johnny: what do you think of the SRMP wagon?
Same to Ari.

[Lowell]

THAnk you for Those Wise clArificationS, Puzzles are indeed fun, diamOnd sentINel, now i beTter know the ruLES... and knowing iS half the battle!

I missed this the first time around, but this is 100% your ONLY warning. You MAY NOT even pretend to break the rules, especially in a disrespectful manner. Next time WILL be a modkill.

That goes for you, too, Aristophanes.

Are you serious right now? Chill the hell out. Also any rules that prohibit idiots from crumbing their roles like idiots are, in fact, pointless.

Mod Note: It is a well known rule that pretending to break the rules carries the same weight as actually breaking them. You've played on here for nearly 10 years now, so you should know that rule. There is a point where my "chill" has its limits, and that's one of them.

[Persivul]

Yeah dude,settle down. Also check the wiki:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb
Scroll down to the example. What you're calling prohibited encryption or whatever is in fact breadcrumbing.

Mod Note: I've never heard that being called crumbing. Crumbing from the agmes that I've played in has always been dropping subtle hints in the way you speak. Either way, don't bother relying on the lingo. Just use the examples as prohibited behavior.

In essence, obey the spirit of the law, not the letter, and I won't have any problems.

[Dwlee99]

I would comment but naw.

[Persivul]

Mod doesn't know a crumb from a soft claim, but it's his game so whatever.

[hasta_la_pasta]

Another prodge. Sorry guys, definitely got some free time later tonight.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh, and prodding DrCirno

[JohnnyFarrar]

@Johnny: what do you think of the SRMP wagon?
Same to Ari.

It's meh. As day one wagons go it's not the worst I've seen, it's either right on the money or we're lynching a newer townie who's full of confbias. I was the latter a lot when I first started playing so I'm hesitant.

[Persivul]

It's meh. As day one wagons go it's not the worst I've seen, it's either right on the money or we're lynching a newer townie who's full of confbias. I was the latter a lot when I first started playing so I'm hesitant.

I haven't studied SRMP's ISO yet but I've been in a scum team with him and in my read through the thread I wasn't seeing scum!SRMP. I think it's a wagon of convenience, and if it flips green it won't tell us much.

[Some Random Mafia Player]

It's meh. As day one wagons go it's not the worst I've seen, it's either right on the money or we're lynching a newer townie who's full of confbias. I was the latter a lot when I first started playing so I'm hesitant.

I haven't studied SRMP's ISO yet but I've been in a scum team with him and in my read through the thread I wasn't seeing scum!SRMP. I think it's a wagon of convenience, and if it flips green it won't tell us much.

you have been scum with me before?

I actually dont remember that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I mean you can add that to the reasons it shouldn't happen then along with the early claim

[Nosferatu]

What is that list, nos? Is it town to scum?

Yes

Suppose im better than NL.

im no PR, so nothing shocking to change your minds.

From my experience going ahead against this has led to a mislynch more often than not.

did anyone ask for a claim? why dis happen? we're days out aren't we?

I'd much rather lynch this, on the other hand.

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

why is 496 scummy?

[Persivul]

you have been scum with me before?

I actually dont remember that.

Crap, I think I was mixing you up with xtoxm. Your honesty is appreciated but now the meta town read is off the table.

[Some Random Mafia Player]

you have been scum with me before?

I actually dont remember that.

Crap, I think I was mixing you up with xtoxm. Your honesty is appreciated but now the meta town read is off the table.

Ok, im probably dead anyway.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Find us a better lynch and you won't be. Or be a smart and vote Rica with me