Micro 576 - Word Sneak Mafia 2: Even Sneakier! (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

Also how am I not arguing for what I believe in? What does that even mean?

Everything you say is "could", "I guess", "I bet" except your confidence in your own lynch.

S_S, do you think 818 and everything that followed in twilight is fake?

Do you think it's genuine?

[GuiltyLion]

Obviously I do given what I've posted in the thread. Why didn't you just answer me?

[Something_Smart]

I don't think it feels genuine at all. Feels like he's trying too hard to act like he didn't know BNL's alignment.

[Halos and Horns]

GL: were you ever townreading Postie? What makes Ari obvtown to you? Can you explain why you keep saying that one of us&Postie is scum and the other town?

[Halos and Horns]

Gl having his lynch sealed is very Ew. Is it even possible to scum hunt off your own guaranteed lynch wagon?

How do you feel about GL himself?

[Postie]

So then how were you saying my way of sorting him was wrong?

I mean, the conclusion I reached was obviously wrong. But you were criticizing me scumreading him without having a better alternative in mind yourself. Feels like it could be WK-ing.

I'm not saying your way of sorting him was wrong. My scumread on you has never been about the

way

you sorted him. It's the reasons you gave for scumreading him that I have a problem with.
Although I'm not sure I'm following your logic here either - "a scummy way of sorting someone is less scummy than not sorting them"? What?

I agree with a lot of what you've said about the BnL thing, but the fundamental thing with GL is that I feel like he was doing it in a really storytelling manner; he was describing everything that went through with a clear BnL scum agenda and it felt really disingenuous and strongarmy. GL doesn't usually talk like that either.

I wasn't sure what you meant by this earlier, but I think I see it now. Yeah. I don't remember him talking that way in previous games.

But definitely want to hear more from you Postie.

Is there anything in particular you want me to weigh in on?

[Flubbernugget]

not totally sure what you're saying here. Like my thinking my lynch is sealed is ew or the fact that it feels like I am thread consensus lynch today is ew?

I don't like that you're saying you are going to scum hunt off your wagon knowing you have a high probability of being the lynch. It gives scum too much room to manipulate the wagon

[Flubbernugget]

Gl having his lynch sealed is very Ew. Is it even possible to scum hunt off your own guaranteed lynch wagon?

How do you feel about GL himself?

Nothing pings me either way. All the reads on him are "he feels off" which really isn't doing it for me

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: aristo

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: aristo

Hurray! I'm a wagon again!!

[Halos and Horns]

So then how were you saying my way of sorting him was wrong?

I mean, the conclusion I reached was obviously wrong. But you were criticizing me scumreading him without having a better alternative in mind yourself. Feels like it could be WK-ing.

I'm not saying your way of sorting him was wrong. My scumread on you has never been about the

way

you sorted him. It's the reasons you gave for scumreading him that I have a problem with.
Although I'm not sure I'm following your logic here either - "a scummy way of sorting someone is less scummy than not sorting them"? What?

I agree with a lot of what you've said about the BnL thing, but the fundamental thing with GL is that I feel like he was doing it in a really storytelling manner; he was describing everything that went through with a clear BnL scum agenda and it felt really disingenuous and strongarmy. GL doesn't usually talk like that either.

I wasn't sure what you meant by this earlier, but I think I see it now. Yeah. I don't remember him talking that way in previous games.

But definitely want to hear more from you Postie.

Is there anything in particular you want me to weigh in on?

Well, everything.

And I'd like to hear more from you about your positions on other people if you can find the time.

I'm pretty comfortable lynching GL so I'm not overly concerned about my reads on other people at this time but if you need clarification on something ask away.

[Halos and Horns]

And no, GL, There were 3 people pushing your wagon yesterday and 2 are alive.
SS is the only one who has been added to the wagon at this time and you're saying that you're townreading him.
There's no particular reason for you to suspect that there has to be scum on your wagon. It doesn't make sense and feels like posturing to mislead town after your flip.

Aristo, why the hammer as well?

[Aristophanes]

Aristo, why the hammer as well?

Ari - why'd you switch to hammer BNL instead of keeping your vote on me?

I knew where SS was going to vote, weighed the options in my head, and got bitter about the post snip again.

It wasn't good logic, but it happened.

[Aeronaut]

General PSA: All word lists have been sent out! To make it a bit more fair since I was late sending those out, I'm going to extend the DL by a day. Enjoy!

[Aeronaut]

VC 2.1

VoteCount 2.1

With 7 alive (but 8 votes in play) it takes 5 to lynch!

Bloviate

VOTE: [/b]

"To speak pompously or brag."

[0]

Halos and Horns -

[0]

Something_Smart -

[0]

Postie -

[2]

GuiltyLion -

Halos and Horns, Postie

[2]

Aristophanes -

Something_Smart, Flubbernugget

[0]

Flubbernugget -

[0]

lane0168 -

Not Voting

-

Aristophanes, GuiltyLion, lane0168

Mod Notes:

Take note that it is indeed still 5 votes for a majority, not 4.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-06 12:30:32)

[Something_Smart]

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
(Aero I hate you )
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and seeeeeeeee
Aristo what do you think of GL?
H&H what do you think of Aristo?

[Halos and Horns]

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy..
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, a little low
Any way the wind blows... doesn't really matter..... to me
To meeee

I didn't like the hammer because I still do not understand why everyone was scumreading BNL for the snip thing. But I'm not sure whether I think he's scum because I would have expected a cop claim? Although I guess it could have been a WIFOM thing because he'd know he'd be found out the next day?

[Halos and Horns]

-Horns

[lane0168]

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy..
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, a little low
Any way the wind blows... doesn't really matter..... to me
To meeee

I didn't like the hammer because I still do not understand why everyone was scumreading BNL for the snip thing. But I'm not sure whether I think he's scum because I would have expected a cop claim? Although I guess it could have been a WIFOM thing because he'd know he'd be found out the next day?

I unvoted for the same reasons as you, but rereading, I don't get the sense Ari didn't even think of that, and am leaning back towards scum.

This day is weird. I don't get major town or scum vibes from anyone. Everyones cases feel like the same old thing. The end of yesterday drug on and on. I want my blitz games back. When bnl flipped I figured I'd go back and read into davsto.

And, idk, I get this gut feeling rc is scum playing safe around me. (I know I know, you don't give a fuck about be and aren't afraid of me catching you but you just seem... Subdued and it's freaking me out lol)

[Halos and Horns]

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy..
Because I'm easy come, easy go
A little high, a little low
Any way the wind blows... doesn't really matter..... to me
To meeee

I didn't like the hammer because I still do not understand why everyone was scumreading BNL for the snip thing. But I'm not sure whether I think he's scum because I would have expected a cop claim? Although I guess it could have been a WIFOM thing because he'd know he'd be found out the next day?

I unvoted for the same reasons as you, but rereading, I don't get the sense Ari didn't even think of that, and am leaning back towards scum.

This day is weird. I don't get major town or scum vibes from anyone. Everyones cases feel like the same old thing. The end of yesterday drug on and on. I want my blitz games back. When bnl flipped I figured I'd go back and read into davsto.

And, idk, I get this gut feeling rc is scum playing safe around me. (I know I know, you don't give a fuck about be and aren't afraid of me catching you but you just seem... Subdued and it's freaking me out lol)

That quote was Lilith

[Something_Smart]

@H&H: Isn't it clear why everyone was scumreading BNL for the snip thing? Due to the efforts of lane and Aristo, who both tried to paint it as super scummy. I still think lane is town, but I hate the way Aristo originally responded to the snip with only "you missed my joke" and only after lane called it scum he said "well actually yeah it is scummy".
@Lane: What do you think about Aristo and the hammer?

[GuiltyLion]

GL: were you ever townreading Postie? What makes Ari obvtown to you? Can you explain why you keep saying that one of us&Postie is scum and the other town?

I was thinking Postie was town early on in the game when she was aggressively moving from person to person. But then the way she was scumreading me via sheeping you, while not really interacting with me herself unless I pushed her, felt scummy - like she was disengaging from the game and just jumping on a convenient wagon. However, she's been pretty straightforward in answering all of my questions which is starting to make me think town again - although I'm not sure yet that she sounds like she genuinely thinks I'm scum when she talks to me.

Ari is obvtown to me through his casual tone. I don't get the sense that he's hiding or faking anything - I know people have been saying his posts feel extremely forced but I feel almost exactly the opposite, he's just having a laugh and spilling his thoughts out in thread. Especially things like his twilight posting, I just see no reason for scum to go through the effort to fake all of that and I feel that when you're scum you're under a lot of pressure to make sure each post is clean/perfect and he clearly hasn't been bothering to do that.

It's because I'm town and I had a substantial wagon, so I assume there's probably scum on it. I also doubt that both scum were on the same major D1 wagon at the end of the day. I recognize that's not something I can convince people of through objective thread-based discussion, but I don't feel I did anything that should warrant the amount of scumreads on me D1. I'll have to re-evaluate you and Postie as D2 goes on, but I felt this especially strongly during D1 when I thought BNL was scum and that I was the scum-motivated counterwagon and I guess that feeling hasn't gone away yet. If I'm wrong I'll probably be looking the group of S_S/lane/Flubber for two scums

[GuiltyLion]

So then how were you saying my way of sorting him was wrong?

I mean, the conclusion I reached was obviously wrong. But you were criticizing me scumreading him without having a better alternative in mind yourself. Feels like it could be WK-ing.

I'm not saying your way of sorting him was wrong. My scumread on you has never been about the

way

you sorted him. It's the reasons you gave for scumreading him that I have a problem with.
Although I'm not sure I'm following your logic here either - "a scummy way of sorting someone is less scummy than not sorting them"? What?

The thing is that only town has to sort people. I've never understood how a townie can feel comfortable lynching someone when they're still entirely null on another independent player, but I've seen it enough times from town that it's unfortunately largely NAI.

Also this seems to be a contradiction from what you said earlier. You said my reasons made sense but felt fake. Now you're saying my reasons were the problem. Can you try to elaborate?

I wasn't sure what you meant by this earlier, but I think I see it now. Yeah. I don't remember him talking that way in previous games.

Ugh I'm so

so

sick of this crap, it's showing up in all of my games. What,

specifically

, is tangibly different about my play this game than "previous games"?

[GuiltyLion]

The end of yesterday drug on and on. I want my blitz games back.

I miss the blitz queue as well

[GuiltyLion]

I don't like that you're saying you are going to scum hunt off your wagon knowing you have a high probability of being the lynch. It gives scum too much room to manipulate the wagon

Which scum would be "manipulating the wagon" - me and my partner or two separate ones?

This sounds like you know I'm town and you're just criticizing me for saying something unhelpful.