Micro 583: Kids With Guns (Game Over)

[Persivul]

If Not_Mafia is scum, who is most likely to be his partner?

[KainTepes]

Should I vote meastro again then??? I think he is still very suspicious,,

[Persivul]

Sure, vote him. It will only be L-1.

[shaddowez]

VC 1.7

Maestro

[L-2]

- Not_Mafia, Bill and Gompers, lovelygiant

lovelygiant

- Xtoxm

Not_Mafia

- Maestro, KainTepes

Not Voting

- NinoMasaki, Persivul

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-03 14:30:00)

Mod Notes:

[Persivul]

Actually no, I think the correct play is to lynch Not_Mafia, then vig Maestro.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[KainTepes]

VOTE: NOT_MAFIA

I will follow PERSIVUL he seems to know what he's doing!!!

[Persivul]

VOTE: NOT_MAFIA

I will follow PERSIVUL he seems to know what he's doing!!!

Key word is "seems."

I was out for a walk and thinking about it, and the only useful time for the bomb to go off that I can see is if the bomber's lynch looks inevitable and one or both of the PRs are known. Maestro was looking close to lynch and no bomb, so if he's scum I think he's the goon.

Of course now that I've said this it doesn't apply anymore and we just have to go through with the lynches.

[lovelygiant]

That's solid logic. If I was the bomb and that close to being lynched, I would have certainly used my ability.

I'll hang on for a sec. I'd like to hear more before we end Day.

[NinoMasaki]

Alright, so I believe this Maestro wagon is definitely going too fast with that almost-lynch... We have 2 weeks, right? Even if Maestro is scum, we still should try to get as much information as possible before the lynch. If Maestro is not mafia, focusing too much on him would only allow scum to relax and not feel particularly pressured.

I still feel uncomfortable about Maestro's original obsession with lynching Kain, but his explanation later on made sense to me, even though I don't agree with it (we don't have the numbers to allow for a policy lynch, besides I think Kain should be able to learn how to play the game soon). His anger upon being voted for seems slightly town-like to me because I tend to think town is more likely to feel angry about being lynched than scum, who would feel more scared and jittery. We should be careful of tunneling too much, especially on Day 1.

Kain is being really eccentric, but I still believe he is town.

[Maestro]

UNVOTE:

No lynching N_M until we get a chance to fucking talk. If we don't have the numbers to mislynch me, we don't have the numbers to misVig me either, especially not if any of you agree that I'm not Scum.

[Maestro]

I will have to push back the end of my LA until tomorrow, if I had said otherwise. Today got away from me and it's already 11:30. You can wait 12 hours or less out of 9 and a half days.

[Persivul]

Alright, so I believe this Maestro wagon is definitely going too fast with that almost-lynch... We have 2 weeks, right?

Wagons are important for information, as you'll see below.

Even if Maestro is scum, we still should try to get as much information as possible before the lynch. If Maestro is not mafia, focusing too much on him would only allow scum to relax and not feel particularly pressured.

Information is a function of posting, and you're tied for lowest post count. In other words, please participate more.

[Persivul]

UNVOTE:

No lynching N_M until we get a chance to fucking talk.

Why were you voting him before? You've had plenty of opportunity to talk to him.

If we don't have the numbers to mislynch me,

This is an excellent observation,

and pretty much solves the game.

VC 1.6

Maestro

[L-1]

- Not_Mafia, Persivul, Bill and Gompers, lovelygiant

lovelygiant

- Xtoxm

Not_Mafia

- Maestro, KainTepes

Not Voting

- NinoMasaki

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-03 14:30:00)

Mod Notes:

If you're town, there was no reason for scum not to lynch you. Arguments were made against you, both conftowns were on your wagon - if you're town, that was a mislynch served up on a silver platter. But, you weren't lynched. So, if you're town, both scum must have already been on your wagon. Since me and BAG are conftown, that means that

if you're town, Not_Mafia and lovely must be the scum team.

Xtox, Kain, and Nino seem to be cleared - I would think scum would be watching the thread for just such an opportunity.

So, if you could go ahead and put your vote back on N_M, that would be great, mmkay? Or if you prefer to volunteer, we could just lynch you, and your flip will settle it.

[Not_Mafia]

You caught us, I guess we have to lynch lovely

VOTE: lovely

[Not_Mafia]

What you're saying here is that scum would definitely have quick hammered when Maestro was at L-1 or a total of 97 minutes

[Persivul]

Why were you voting Maestro? Why did you remove your vote? It looks like you just used sarcasm as an excuse to take your vote off Maestro. Should we go back to Maestro?

[Not_Mafia]

Lovely is my preferred lynch

[Persivul]

So you were on Maestro because...?

[Not_Mafia]

As mafia suicide bomber, he was the easiest mislynch

[Persivul]

So now you think lovely is the easiest mislynch...maybe because xtox is fixated on him?

[Not_Mafia]

or, he was giving me no reason to townread him and he seemed like the best attainable lynch

you decide

[Persivul]

As mafia suicide bomber, he was the easiest mislynch

And why didn't your partner hammer?

[Not_Mafia]

So now you think lovely is the easiest mislynch...maybe because xtox is fixated on him?

I'm the easiest mislynch

[Not_Mafia]

As mafia suicide bomber, he was the easiest mislynch

And why didn't your partner hammer?

Lovely was already on the wagon

[lovelygiant]

I'm not N_M's scummate.

Also, if he truly IS town, wouldn't excessive trolling like this be considered not playing to his win condition?

Whereas, if he's mafia, this nonsense can at least be passed off as strategy and therefore not breaking any rules?

Just an observation.