Borderlands Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Almost50]

What does that even mean? Wouldn't that support my claim - if it wasn't possible for me to neighborize you?

Nope. A neighbourizer CAN neighbourize anyone. A Masonizer can't masonize non-town players. Look it up on the wiki page (both in the Neighbourizer page)

[Almost50]

I like how Almost50 is playing so much weaker now that he lost day chat lol.

I never had day chat to begin with. If you haven't been paying attention I'm self-aligned/independent.

[beeboy]

I am trying to pay attention.
You are playing differently today though.

[SirCakez]

There's no way Almost is a third party here except for SK. Another third party on top of likely two scum teams and a SK makes no sense.

[YT2980]

Flavor names and flavor descriptions are 2 different things.
This almost feels anti town like you are asking for a bad way to lynch people.

Based on every theme game I have played scum would already have received fake claims / request them / already have them prepared.
Flavor names are important because it limits what people can claim since a mod usually will only confirm 1-2 characters that are not in the game to each scum. This doesn't apply to flavor text since it is literally for the fun of the game.
This is literally pointless and anyone who pushes someone for not liking someone's flavor claim is scum which brings up the question as to why would do this if it doesn't help town?

You never know. It could. I'm open to crackpot methods. I would never push someone solely based off their flavor, but it doesn't hurt town to receive that info anyhow, unless you claim it distracts us from lynching, in which case you have a point.

[Almost50]

Cult is NOT bastard at all.

[SirCakez]

Alignment change is bastard as can be. Its literally in the question the list mods ask for "is your game bastard".

[Rob14]

YT, I already claimed flavor. Look in my ISO.

And yeah, A50 is at least third-party, but probably scum. The 3p claim is a desperate attempt to save himself.

VOTE: A50

[Suzune]

I am really just not sure with A50. I mean, overall I think his game has been shifty. I think his ideas and theories have been out there. I mean he never fails to have a suggestion regardless of the fact I rarely agree. The thought of another third party makes my skin crawl because it continuously stacks the odds against the town. This I simply cannot understand.

[Elyse]

I got the PM that he was town. So he's confirmed town to me and should be to everyone else really.

Hmm. So either {Elyse, Maxous, SirCakez} is a scum group* or A50 is scum? Bah. In that case, I have to go with A50 scum, obviously.

*Because Maxous and Elyse have claimed to be in a neighborhood and Cakez verified Maxous is town.

Note that Elyse and A50 could still be scum together, but Elyse would have to be a Mafia Neighborizer if A50 is scum and lying about his role.

Either way, yeah, I don't think Elyse could be lying about neighborizer if it would require Maxous and SirCakez to be scum as well.

It's a good idea for scum to shoot something in that group to verify it's not all one big scum group skating past all of us for the win.

I'm going to vote A50 after I read through the rest of these pages and verify it isn't hammer.

Suzune also received the PM so her too.

What does that even mean? Wouldn't that support my claim - if it wasn't possible for me to neighborize you?

Nope. A neighbourizer CAN neighbourize anyone. A Masonizer can't masonize non-town players. Look it up on the wiki page (both in the Neighbourizer page)

So you're trying to argue that I'm lying because you're not town...? lol

[Elyse]

I think A50 is scum who knows his claim contradicts my actions and claimed third party to try to survive.

[Rob14]

Suzune also received the PM so her too.

Yeah, I figured that out when I read up after posting what you quoted.

[YT2980]

I think A50 is scum who knows his claim contradicts my actions and claimed third party to try to survive.

I second this. I think he'll flip mafia.

[Almost50]

I am trying to pay attention.
You are playing differently today though.

It's bc I'm being pushed hard today. I tried to be beneficial to town while looking for my own win-con. The town is going crazy now and the scum are manipulating everyone.

Like, TOWNIES: How have your reads been thus far? How many TOWN FLIPS did you suspect to be scum at one point or another. In fact, that's not fair.. so I'll rephrase: How many TOWNIES did you personally lynch? And how many flipped town "much to your surprise"?

Now doesn't it bother you in the least that scum are still alive while you've been lynching your own, and even suspecting some more?? Doesn't it make you wonder if your reads have AT ALL been totally off, and some of your "most confirmed reads" are actually GOOD SCUM playing you?? I pity you if you don't -at least- doubt your reads and suspect something is totally off.

[Almost50]

OK.. I give up. GG scum team(s).

[YT2980]

As I recall, the most flipped town players have wanted TSO (6) and Almost (5) to die. I think this is the best overall decision we can make, coupled with the fact that he's clearly scum.

[Rob14]

Almost, what third party are you? What is your wincon?

[YT2980]

I hope he's not truly an SK though. The problem is, there is no way of confirming. It's not like somebody will go out of their way and say he's fakeclaiming.

[Suzune]

What is our vote count at?

p-edit, why are you against removing an sk YT?

[Almost50]

@SC: You keep pushing me, but you don't VOTE me. Now WHY is that??

P-edit: Oh, no. ROB! I've said it a thousand times: To get killed at night. I win if I get killed at night.

[SirCakez]

What does that even mean? Wouldn't that support my claim - if it wasn't possible for me to neighborize you?

Nope. A neighbourizer CAN neighbourize anyone. A Masonizer can't masonize non-town players. Look it up on the wiki page (both in the Neighbourizer page)

I don't want to quick hammer.

[YT2980]

False martyrs can go into hiding if they're killed any way except lynch, don't fall for that shit.

[SirCakez]

Why is that ghost quote there.....

[Flubbernugget]

What does that even mean? Wouldn't that support my claim - if it wasn't possible for me to neighborize you?

Nope. A neighbourizer CAN neighbourize anyone. A Masonizer can't masonize non-town players. Look it up on the wiki page (both in the Neighbourizer page)

I don't want to quick hammer.

I'm considering a putting almost at l-1. I have no quickhammer reservations. I don't want another dwlee circle-jerk. What are you looking to accomplish today?

[YT2980]

From the role page: "The False Martyr will (either under certain circumstances or at their own volition) be reported as missing at daystart, giving the impression they have been Janitored. They will not count toward the number of living players, and will be dead for all purposes of the game (although they will not have access to deadchat). They may rejoin the game at any time following their disappearance, at which point they contribute to the livelist for purposes of calculating LYLO/MYLO."