Borderlands Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Rob14]

I don't necessarily think I'm a bad lynch, since I was given a role that apparently balances as two guaranteed mislynches (Mimi + me), but seriously, get Nero first. Or at least immediately after me.

[Rob14]

Rob, why do you have faith that your action would be able to catch TSO in a lie but not faith in doing anything else?

I don't have confidence it would catch TSO in a lie. The mod refused to answer whether SK's would have guns. However, if I did return the innocent result, I could definitively say he's lying, since no matter the flavor, FBI agents have guns, period.

I wouldn't trust an innocent on anyone because they could be an SK. I wouldn't trust a guilty on anyone because this role is confirmed to false positive on things it shouldn't.

[Rob14]

I saw it as a potential benefit of my role. I could potentially catch TSO if he was an SK. I couldn't clear him no matter what, of course, but I could at least take a stab at something useful.

I nearly sent in no action again because I didn't want my action to influence the lynches, but I decided to do this instead and just not provide my result in-thread if it wasn't an incriminating innocent. He's dead, obviously, so that issue is moot.

[popsofctown]

Nah Rob, I'm pretty equally down to lynch Nero. I just think Nero's a little more night killable. Since I seem to be a viable mislynch I'm willing to vote/hammer either Nero or Rob at others' preference lest a much worse choice be made.

[Nero Cain]

Cakez there's still a small window of opportunity here. Like you can prob gain a modicum of town cred if you turn on Rob now but your buddies won't be able to help you when he flips scum.

[popsofctown]

it really bugs me the Rob's night actions since N1 have all been tracker/watcher proofed.

[SirCakez]

Actually why are we lynching Nero? We should have him hammer Suzune. That makes a lot more sense.

[Suzune]

Oh yes that makes sense, lets sacrifice a townie in a gmae where frankly the town has not caught a break. That makes sense to me...

[SirCakez]

Assuming you're town.

[Suzune]

Well I know I am. So I speak for myself on the matter.

[popsofctown]

I don't think Suzune is scum. Even if she is, she's the last member of her faction, probably, since the scum flips have been pretty low power thus far, and finishing a scumteam off isn't all that helpful when we need scumkills. I'd prefer to lynch someone directly.

[Rob14]

it really bugs me the Rob's night actions since N1 have all been tracker/watcher proofed.

Uh ... no? Last night I directly targeted T S O.

[Rob14]

I'll hammer Suzune and let you get a two-for-one. At least that way one scum dies.

[Rob14]

Forcing Nero is preferable to that, but me taking down a scum with me is preferable to us wasting our lynch.

[Suzune]

I am not a bargaining chip.

[Rob14]

Weird, cause I'm willing to compromise myself for you.

[popsofctown]

it really bugs me the Rob's night actions since N1 have all been tracker/watcher proofed.

Uh ... no? Last night I directly targeted T S O.

Yeah, scumrob gets watched or tracked to dying TSO and can say "look, just like I told you".

[Maxous]

Even if she is, she's the last member of her faction, probably, since the scum flips have been pretty low power thus far, and finishing a scumteam off isn't all that helpful when we need scumkills.

what.
we absolutely want to reduce scum-kills

[Rob14]

... only if I was actually telling the truth? If I killed TSO, I'd be the only person going there, and then you'd know it was me.

Come on, now. This is getting silly. Think through your latest wild accusations before you make them, please.

[Suzune]

Weird, cause I'm willing to compromise myself for you.

I am sorry I am not willing to play that game with you. You do not get to set me up to lose because you want a sacrifice.

[Maxous]

There's too many scum vs town here.
I think they're strong-arming a lynch on the gunsmith.
There's an obvious reason every scum remaining in the game would want him lynched.

[Rob14]

Even if she is, she's the last member of her faction, probably, since the scum flips have been pretty low power thus far, and finishing a scumteam off isn't all that helpful when we need scumkills.

what.
we absolutely want to reduce scum-kills

Not really. Town is likely the minority now. If we end a scum faction before the other is reduced, that second scum faction probably wins.

For example, if it's 3 town, 3 scum team #1, 1 scum team #2, 1 SK, and we kill the scum team #2 and SK, then we lose. We need to hit the second group scum before we "reduce scum kills". And scum has huge motivation to crosskill at the moment, so we absolutely want them to be shooting. They're basically town-aligned kills at the moment.

[Rob14]

Weird, cause I'm willing to compromise myself for you.

I am sorry I am not willing to play that game with you. You do not get to set me up to lose because you want a sacrifice.

Doesn't matter if you're willing to play if everyone else votes you, Suzune.

If you're set on lynching me, then vote Suzune, and I'll hammer.

[Maxous]

Is there anything besides that nonsense you posted yesterday that you have a problem with regards to me?

you're denying it, but I thought you layed low and coasted a lot during the day 2&3 periods which I would expect off scum from multi-ball.
Your reaction to Flubbernugget calling you a liar about being a VT was weirdly passive as well I guess

[SirCakez]

There's too many scum vs town here.
I think they're strong-arming a lynch on the gunsmith.
There's an obvious reason every scum remaining in the game would want him lynched.

This is what I'm thinking. Nero is probably part of the second groupscum with Pops and possibly Beeboy.