Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Frozen Angel]

Vote Count 1.8

Maestro (3) : SnarkySnowman , Jeanne11 , a plain farmer
Killthestory (3) : KuroiXHF , Aristophanes , Dierfire
Masquerade (1) : Shiro
a plain farmer (1) : nnn_thekushmountains
Jake from State Farm (1) : Wisdom
KuroiXHF (1) : Masquerade

Not Voting (3) : Jake from State Farm , Killthestory , Maestro

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-03-21 20:00:00)

Note : Jeanne told me she is VLA till tomorrow. I will take back the prod I just announced .

Within Temptation : Stand My Ground

Spoiler: lyrics

I can see
When you stay low
Nothing happens
Does it feel right?
Late at night
Things I thought I'd put behind me
Haunt my mind
I just know there's no escape now
Once it sets it's eyes on you
But I won't run
Have to stare it in the eyes
Stand my ground
I won't give in
No more denying
I've gotta face it
Won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
If I don't make it, someone else will
Stand my ground
It's all around
Getting stronger, coming closer into my world
I can feel that it's time for me to face it
Can I take it?
Though this might just be the ending
Of the life I held so dear
But I won't run
There's no turning back from here
Stand my ground
I won't give in
No more denying
I've gotta face it
Won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
If I don't make it, someone else will
Stand my ground
All I know for sure is that I'm trying
I will always stand my ground
Stand my ground
I won't give in, (I won't give in)
I won't give up, (I won't give up)
No more denying (Ahh-hhhh)
I've gotta face it
Won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
If I don't make it, someone else will
Stand my ground
I won't give in
No more denying
I've gotta face it
Won't close my eyes and hide the truth inside
If I don't make it, someone else will
Stand my ground

[Dierfire]

Wisdom in 174 is close to committing a tell commonly associated with Town players who vote for me (although he didn't actually vote for me).

@Wisdom

Thoughts on the above and its relation to your read on Killthestory?

EDIT: It's not really "above" any more...

[Dierfire]

Dierfire post seem really slow ?

Ha ha, rude!
I guess that I should read more fully before I post, though.

[Masquerade]

In case someone was wondering about what I thought of my interaction with Killthestory...

Overall, my impression is that he is engaged in some form of "reaction test" that is probably not directed at me. I gathered the following facts.

1. He is claiming suspicion of me but not voting for me.
2. His arguments seem less interested in persuading others to vote for me than in expressing tone--that is, the tone is the message.
3. He declined an opportunity to prolong his interaction with me (presumably because he wasn't overly concerned with my reaction).

The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Town perspective is that he is sorting for associative tells, although the exact method is unclear to me. As (almost) everyone had a chance to post since then, I believe that he will have obtained sufficient material to share with us.
The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Mafia perspective is that he is trying to be perceived as an aggressive/impatient/confident Town player. That is, I do not feel that he is a Mafia player trying to get me (specifically) lynched.

I suddenly got the meaning of 'ew' when I read this post.
Mafia as in the game or as in scum? And what perspective do you want to go with?
Furthermore...what?

[Dierfire]

@Shiro

Well confusing two people that were kind of 1v1 isn't exactly a typo.

I disagree that I am 1v1 with Killthestory right now (he isn't even voting for me). Could you state your interpretation of Jake's posting and what it means for the alignments of all involved?

[Dierfire]

@Masquerade

My inclination is toward the "Mafia" perspective.
I don't understand any of the other questions.

[Wisdom]

Because he's town and there are people who are actually scummy

You know better than to assume people to simply take your word for the hell of it. However, I'll vote people if they're scummier. Now tell me, who

is

scummier?

{Masquerade, Dierfire, Shiro, Jeanne, Jake} is my lynchpool right now, in that order of read strength

[Masquerade]

@Dierfire: I just don't get what you're doing with your post. Your points 1-2-3 are things that happened and it doesn't look like you have an actual stance on it. You;re giving us 2 options as if you want to see if anyone wants to run with it so you can later say 'I didn't push anything'
You said Mafia-perspective. Do you mean scum-prespective or overall game-perspective?

@Wisdom: I'm waiting for you to respond to my post and continue your pressure on me. Why are you avoiding me?
You specifically said you think the stubborness Kts is showing is not faked. What gives you that idea? Is it a specific post? Meta? A shared PT?

[Wisdom]

I'm not answering to stupid questions

[Dierfire]

Masquerade

@Dierfire: I just don't get what you're doing with your post. Your points 1-2-3 are things that happened and it doesn't look like you have an actual stance on it. You;re giving us 2 options as if you want to see if anyone wants to run with it so you can later say 'I didn't push anything'
You said Mafia-perspective. Do you mean scum-prespective or overall game-perspective?

I will try to make it more clear.
I am suspicious of Killthestory (hence my vote). He subsequently had an interaction with me in which, I believe, he was more concerned about conveying a tone than conveying a message. I have identified one possible explanation for this if he is Town--but that explanation buys him no further time (he needs to explain that maneuver and its results). I have identified an explanation for his behavior if he is Mafia--which I am inclined to believe above the other (for which reason I left my vote on him).
Is this clear?

[Masquerade]

Yes it makes more sense now. So why did you feel the need to post it?

[Killthestory]

Holy shit this site reads into way too much. Like honestly, that's a major problem.

Anyway, I'll probably take back what I said about bussing, it's possible but it's stupid as fuck. Defending your mafia bud is a better play overall is better than actually bussing them unless you suck ass.

Anyway, Wisdom and Jake are town. Maestro is prob VI Town since he's more focused on how hella butthurt I made him when he insulted me first lmfao.

nnn strikes me wrong. Dierfire as well. I'll probably do more shit in a sec, p busy guy

[Maestro]

Bussing is a great strategy in many different situations.
You're one of those rare VIs who thinks he's the best shit in the whole room, and I can tell.

[Killthestory]

lol bro.

[Jake from State Farm]

Bussing is a great strategy in many different situations.
You're one of those rare VIs who thinks he's the best shit in the whole room, and I can tell.

I thought you were describing me for a second but once you said VI I knew you weren't

[Killthestory]

In case someone was wondering about what I thought of my interaction with Killthestory...

Overall, my impression is that he is engaged in some form of "reaction test" that is probably not directed at me. I gathered the following facts.

LOL. Ok bro,listen, if you think someone is pulling something, you never fucking out it. Period

1. He is claiming suspicion of me but not voting for me.

I have more scumreads than just you bud.

2. His arguments seem less interested in persuading others to vote for me than in expressing tone--that is, the tone is the message.

Why would I want people to vote for you? I mean, like I said, I have more scumreads, but to be sure that someone's scum to make it so others vote for them? Too early for that.

3. He declined an opportunity to prolong his interaction with me (presumably because he wasn't overly concerned with my reaction).

i went to sleep???

The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Town perspective is that he is sorting for associative tells, although the exact method is unclear to me. As (almost) everyone had a chance to post since then, I believe that he will have obtained sufficient material to share with us.
The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Mafia perspective is that he is trying to be perceived as an aggressive/impatient/confident Town player. That is, I do not feel that he is a Mafia player trying to get me (specifically) lynched.

i have sufficient material I guess. You're scum.

Anyway, I won't take the easy way out and say what I say is COMPLETELY CALCULATDD HUR DUR. I do shit when I feel it needs to get done, and I'll say shit for short term shit. Mafia is about versatility, not extreme planning lol.

[Killthestory]

Bussing is a great strategy in many different situations.
You're one of those rare VIs who thinks he's the best shit in the whole room, and I can tell.

I thought you were describing me for a second but once you said VI I knew you weren't

can you actually do shit?

like I get your idealized and probs p gud but you have yet to show me since basically all you've done is say "oh bro these guys strike me as off" and then fluctuate to a different dude lmfao. Then you use the excuse of tiredness which I understand, but other than that you've been useless.

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes I can do stuff and I will when I have the time to do so. I'm not obligated to appease you or anyone else for that matter and I'm certainly not going to rush my catchup because somebody gets a little antsy. Im busy and I don't do heavy reading on my phone and unfortunately I haven't had much laptop time. I'll try my best to do it tomorrow.

[Killthestory]

wow you must be p mad with all that passive aggressiveness.

did i tell you how much i dislike passive aggressiveness.

[Jake from State Farm]

Did I ask you if you liked passive aggressiveness?

Do you think I care if you like or dislike passive aggressiveness?

Hint both questions have the same answer. Starts with N and rhymes with Ho

[Killthestory]

wow bro youre so cool. like you got me there guy!

whats with this mad beef lmfao, you got something on your mind you wanna share to the class?

[Jake from State Farm]

You were the one who came with the aggressive behavior towards me first. I give back what others dish out.

[Killthestory]

we got into an argument about how to play lad. if you take everything so personal you shouldn't be playing on the internet. also, remember the quote "two wrongs don't make a right" lad. if i was such a bad person, you're equal on my level

[Jake from State Farm]

I haven't taken anything personal

[Killthestory]

I haven't taken anything personal

clearly you have if you're so angry at what i've been saying lmfao