Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Frozen Angel]

Vote Count 1.15

Killthestory (5) : Aristophanes , Dierfire , Jake from State Farm , a plain farmer , KuroiXHF
Jake from State Farm (4) : Wisdom , Killthestory , Jeanne11 , nnn_thekushmountains
Maestro (1) : SnarkySnowman
Masquerade (1) : Shiro
KuroiXHF (1) : Masquerade
nnn_thekushmountains (1) : Maestro

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-03-21 20:00:00)

Note : I hope you listen to the last VC music that I just updated in page 17 and read the thingy I posted in page 16 as well

Tarja : I Walk Alone

Spoiler: lyrics

Put all your angels on the edge
Keep all the roses I'm not dead
I left a thorn under your bed
I'm never gone
Go tell the world I'm still around
I didn't fly I'm coming down
You are the wind the only sound
A whisper in my heart
When hope is torn apart
And no one can save you
I walk alone
Every step I take, I walk alone
My Winter storm
Holding me awake it's never gone
When I walk alone
Go back to sleep forever more
Far from your fools and lock the door
They're all around and they'll make sure
You don't have to see, what I turned out to be
No one can help you
I walk alone
Every step I take, I walk alone
My Winter storm
Holding me awake it's never gone
When I walk alone
Waiting up in heaven I was never far from you
Seeing down I felt your ever move
I walk alone
I walk alone, every step I take
I walk alone
My Winter storm holding me awake
It's never gone
When I walk alone

[Aristophanes]

Maestro, an overreaction to kills obnoxiousness.
That scumslip though lol.
It's a bad reason to townread maestro but his not wanting to play looks honest and townie.

Bear with my phone posting formatting.
From Jake

What I said is when asked to explain himself he does so in very few words, if he actually does it at all

The bolded is the more egregious behavior.

Reading this again, it feels so fake.
Lots of people won't answer questions about their reads. Not responding to questions is what makes him scum?
I don't buy that.
So as much as I like my policy voting, I'll vote game.
Maybe at some point I'll filter him properly and townread him again so I can go back to my beloved plynch.

VOTE: jake from state farm
Do you actually work at state farm?
My name irl is jake and people are always saying jake from state farm haha...it's kind of annoying but they are funny commercials.

This feels like an RVS vote.
That sucks at this stage!
Sore you mentioned that he felt fake (which basically amounts to a gut read), but that's all you've got? Really?

Also, I agree with Maestro on the potential slip and will support a wagon here if it becomes a thing. Not a priority atm though.

Maestro, I'm happy you're here in the game and totally get where you're coming from. This last bit was NIA (and I find it interesting that Kush said otherwise).
I am curious on the other reads on Maestro though. He is clearly town to me. What is the actual case here??

[Jake from State Farm]

Reading this again, it feels so fake.
Lots of people won't answer questions about their reads. Not responding to questions is what makes him scum?
I don't buy that.

I'm sorry you feel it's fake, I assure you regardless of alignment nothing I accuse people of is fake. As scum the best way to play convincingly is to accuse people of the same things you would if you were town. That's why despite hating playing as scum, my scum game is on point.

But guess what? I'm not scum reading him because he's not answering my questions. I've given other reasons also yet for some reason you chose to ignore those and focus on just one of the lesser reasons. That's weird.

Also, people shouldn't refuse to answer questions about their reads, all players in general but most definitely not town. Town should try to be as transparent as possible. Scum have motivation to do less talking cause the more they do, the more likely they can screw up. If a player refuses to explain their reads, especially scum reads that's a huge red flag imo.

No my name isn't really Jake, no I don't really work for State Farm.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Killthestory This is just easier. Plus, it should be evident why I think he's scum.

It isn't. Explain.

The more I confuse myself with Maestro and Masquerade, the more frustrated I get. I know Killthestory is someone I'm most comfortable is scum. The hope is that the differences and ways to distinguish Maestro and Masqerade apart will be evident soon enough.

That didn't explain why Killthestory is scum.

[Wisdom]

Other than this and post 364, which is basically a scumslip,

That's not a scumslip, Maestro.

[Wisdom]

I'm blocking you, and I'm not dealing with you in this game.

Also, be advised this is 100% serious. If you want me to respond to anything KTS says from now on you will have to quote it because I will not see it in this thread.

Blocking does not work in games.

[Wisdom]

That scumslip though lol.

Explain to me why anybody would be in the mindset of "emulating" a behavior for a Town game. You don't emulated anything in order to tell the truth.

He meant he would try/adopt my playstyle in his next game. Emulate was bad wording.

[Wisdom]

Town should try to be as transparent as possible.

Nope. Town's job is to identify and lynch scum. Not appear townish or transparent.

[Shiro]

VOTE: Killthestory This is just easier. Plus, it should be evident why I think he's scum.

It isn't. Explain.

The more I confuse myself with Maestro and Masquerade, the more frustrated I get. I know Killthestory is someone I'm most comfortable is scum. The hope is that the differences and ways to distinguish Maestro and Masqerade apart will be evident soon enough.

That didn't explain why Killthestory is scum.

I don't think anyone has any actual reason other than nor liking his style, which is what raised it in the first place, and now most likely scum keep it afloat.

Meanwhile scum masquerade is sitting with only one vote D:

[Jake from State Farm]

Town should try to be as transparent as possible.

Nope. Town's job is to identify and lynch scum. Not appear townish or transparent.

Never said anything about appear townish, it's possible be transparent and not care about appearances. Disagree about the transparent part though. Also if you don't explain yourself and answer questions it makes achieving the goal of "lynching scum" harder cause in order to "lynch scum" you have to have people follow you and most good players will want some actual reasons/explanation.

[Wisdom]

I felt like his comment about me ignoring him and stuff making the game exhausting felt somewhat town

pedit: @shiro

[Wisdom]

Also if you don't explain yourself and answer questions it makes achieving the goal of "lynching scum" harder cause in order to "lynch scum" you have to have people follow you and most good players will want some actual reasons/explanation.

Unfortunately for you, I get people to follow me without needing such stuff.

[Killthestory]

It's always good to look town, so you're better able to communicate your ideas to the town. If you're a good player, however, then it isn't necessary.

[Aristophanes]

Wisdom, you got really nitpicky in that last string of posts on this page and I disagree with your deductions.

[Wisdom]

What do you disagree with?

[Masquerade]

I'm bored. Too much talk about how people should play and not enough talk about reads.


Yes I'm just dumping this here and leaving again. Bye

[nnn_thekushmountains]

Reading this again, it feels so fake.
Lots of people won't answer questions about their reads. Not responding to questions is what makes him scum?
I don't buy that.

I'm sorry you feel it's fake, I assure you regardless of alignment nothing I accuse people of is fake. As scum the best way to play convincingly is to accuse people of the same things you would if you were town. That's why despite hating playing as scum, my scum game is on point.

But guess what? I'm not scum reading him because he's not answering my questions. I've given other reasons also yet for some reason you chose to ignore those and focus on just one of the lesser reasons. That's weird.

Also, people shouldn't refuse to answer questions about their reads, all players in general but most definitely not town. Town should try to be as transparent as possible. Scum have motivation to do less talking cause the more they do, the more likely they can screw up. If a player refuses to explain their reads, especially scum reads that's a huge red flag imo.

No my name isn't really Jake, no I don't really work for State Farm.

that's the only reason I found.
@aristo It's not a gut read. I know Jake has been around the block a few times, and he's scumreading someone for something that is player style and NAI.

[Wisdom]

Current scumpile: {Jake, Dierfire, Jeanne, Snarky, Masquerade}, in that order of read power.

[Frozen Angel]

SnarkySnowman is now prodded. he has 24 hours to post before I start finding a replacement for his slot.

[Jake from State Farm]

that's the only reason I found.

Well clearly you aren't reading cause I made a post with multiple reasons and posted a link to it later for kts. If you are town I'd work on paying attention better.

[Jake from State Farm]

It's always good to look town, so you're better able to communicate your ideas to the town. If you're a good player, however, then it isn't necessary.

Town shouldn't be worried about looking town. That's what scum has to be worried about. Town has enough to worry bout trying to find scum and lynching them without lynching too many town in the process.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'm running a half marathon tomorrow and have some things to do Sunday so I'll be fairly inactive this weekend. I'll try to check a couple of times but will just be skimming.

But where will you be if I get into a car accident and I need help on my policy? Like a good neighbor, Jake from State Farm should be there.

Looks like you didn't need me.

[SnarkySnowman]

Prod received hi

[Killthestory]

It's always good to look town, so you're better able to communicate your ideas to the town. If you're a good player, however, then it isn't necessary.

Town shouldn't be worried about looking town. That's what scum has to be worried about. Town has enough to worry bout trying to find scum and lynching them without lynching too many town in the process.

lol pls. Town can be very self conscious about what they're doing almost as much as scum. It's not good, but it's true. That's why I said the good players don't need to express themselves as town.

[Frozen Angel]

A shape shifting and musically adept American, German and Swedish hard rock unit that skilfully blends elements of classical , gothic/doom metal , progressive rock, and symphonic metal , Kamelot came to be in 1992 in Tampa, Florida. Founded by multi instrumentalist Thomas Youngblood , the band has endured numerous lineup changes throughout its existance.