Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Frozen Angel]

Vote Count 2.2

Wisdom (2) : Jake from State Farm , Jeanne11
Masquerade (1) : Shiro
Maestro (1) : Wisdom

Not Voting (6) : Aristophanes , Masquerade , nnn_thekushmountains , SnarkySnowman , a plain farmer , Maestro

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-29 06:00:00)

Nightwish : Amaranth

Spoiler: lyrics

Baptized with a perfect name
The doubting one by heart
Alone without himself
War between him and the day
Need someone to blame
In the end, little he can do alone
You believe but what you see
You receive but what you give
Caress the one, the Never-Fading
rain in your heart, the tears of snow-white sorrow
Caress the one, the hiding amaranth
In a land of the daybreak
Apart from the wandering pack
In this brief flight of time we reach
For the ones, whoever dare
You believe but what you see
You receive but what you give
Caress the one, the Never-Fading
Rain in your hear, the tears of snow-white sorrow
Caress the one, the hiding amaranth
In a land of the daybreak
Caress the one, the Never-Fading
Rain in your hear, the tears of snow-white sorrow
Caress the one, the hiding amaranth
In a land of the daybreak
Reaching, searching for something untouched
Hearing voices of the Never-Fading calling
Calling
Calling
Caress the one, the Never-Fading
Rain in your hear, the tears of snow-white sorrow
Caress the one, the hiding amaranth
In a land of the daybreak
Caress the one, the Never-Fading
Rain in your hear, the tears of snow-white sorrow
Caress the one, the hiding amaranth
In a land of the daybreak

[Maestro]

Kill was bleeding towniness and Jake hammered him for attitude. That is like best scum cover for hammering town.

That's why Maestro is now in the scumpile btw. I don't buy personal dislike as an excuse to hammer like that.

In fact, that should be pushed more.

VOTE: Maestro

What do you actually expect me to say, Wisdom? That we

didn't

have the numbers for that lynch or that the game

isn't

better off without KTS around? Buy whatever the fuck you like, but unless you have an actual question to ask, then you can go back to voting Town in Jake for all I care.

[Jake from State Farm]

Because I don't feel like he is scum. He had no reason to tunnel you yesterday as scum and then continue today.

My reads are pretty similar with his minus the order.

I am pretty sure he scumread Dier and he was right, he was also right on kill but kill was bleeding town.

He scum read somebody but didn't try to get them lynched
He instead tried to lynch a townie
He white knighted a townie and stayed off the lynch


Hmmmm all things I would do if I were scum

[Wisdom]

Yeah, Maestro is scum

[Wisdom]

Tough luck Maestro. You left me alive thinking I'd keep tunneling on Jake, huh?

[Jeanne11]

And again you're not answering questions. This is what I want to know as well

What do you actually expect me to say, Wisdom? That we

didn't

have the numbers for that lynch or that the game

isn't

better off without KTS around? Buy whatever the fuck you like, but unless you have an actual question to ask, then you can go back to voting Town in Jake for all I care.

Answer the damn question instead of stating the same thing over and over. >.>

[Wisdom]

Alright. Yes, the game would be much better with KTS in here. He was obvtown and a good scumhunter, as proven by the fact he caught Dierfire.

And really? We didn't have numbers for a lynch like one week before the deadline? That's the weakest argument ever.

[Jake from State Farm]

He caught dier? You mean he omgus'd him

[Wisdom]

No, he caught him. You just didn't understand his ways.

[Jeanne11]

Hey Wisdom, I have something for you.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6950062

This is you, not giving a crap about whether a player flips town and not showing a slightest bit of remorse even after they do. >.>

[Jake from State Farm]

No I understand omgus. He did it twice even.

[Wisdom]

Jeanne your link isn't working, try again

[Wisdom]

And what are you talking about? Did someone I scumread flip town?

[Jake from State Farm]

Hey Wisdom, I have something for you.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6950062

This is you, not giving a crap about whether a player flips town and not showing a slightest bit of remorse even after they do. >.>

Which one is wisdom?

[Maestro]

Alright. Yes, the game would be much better with KTS in here. He was obvtown and a good scumhunter, as proven by the fact he caught Dierfire.

And really? We didn't have numbers for a lynch like one week before the deadline? That's the weakest argument ever.

1) You misunderstand, I mean this game is more enjoyable for me without him in it. Regardless of whether he was a good scumhunter or not. Catching 1 Scum in 1 game does not a good scumhunter make.

2) Again you misunderstand. I mean we had the numbers for the ML - and yes we only know it's a ML after the fact, but with 1 Scum gone last night I'm comfortable not giving a shit that we made that mistake yesterday.

Wisdom, let's be honest with eachother. There's no situation, even the expectation of a death-tunnel on somebody not-me, in which I would leave you alive if I were Scum in this game. I knew I'd get scrutiny for such an AtE hammer and I don't give a shit. Wise up. I'm Town. Now move on.

PEDIT: I tried a bunch of different permutations and got a game from 2003 (before any of us joined) and a game from 2015 that Jeanne was in but Wisdom was not. WTF?

[Wisdom]

No, you would, because I defended you yesterday and you thought I'd keep doing it.

[Jeanne11]

Of course not, genius. You have to select it and then open it. If you want, I can make it clickable though.

p-edit: NO, BUT JAKE AND MAESTRO MIGHT! DID YOU EVEN CONSIDER THAT THEY COULD BE TOWN OR IS IT JUST SCUM SCUM SCUM AD INFINITUM FOR YOU?!
OMG.....I KNOW I DO THIS TOO BUT I CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES AS WELL. YOU DON'T.

[Jeanne11]

And that was to give en example of how Wisdom was playing. His playstyle here is similar to that person's.

[Maestro]

No, you would, because I defended you yesterday and you thought I'd keep doing it.

Not at all, but ok. lol

[Wisdom]

Jake is town, Jeanne. Maestro isn't.

[Maestro]

And that was to give en example of how Wisdom was playing. His playstyle here is similar to that person's.

Which person? It's not even clear who you're pointing to given the fucked up link, and comparing Player X's play to Player Y's (even if Y is the alignment you expect X to be) isn't like comparing meta. You can't do that unless it's the same person. Try harder tho.

PEDIT: Why? Besides "you thought I'd leave you alone, that's why you kept me alive" - which is basically confirmation bias.

[Jeanne11]

That's what Tere told everyone about me. And guess what? I flipped town. I am not gonna allow another Tere to falsely accuse people with reasoning 'because I say so'.

[Wisdom]

I've said why Maestro is scum, Jeanne. Address my reasoning.

[Jeanne11]

Isn't that tad hypocritical Wisdom? You refuse to make cases precisely because they could be picked apart, and now you ask me to address your reasoning so you can pick it apart. Sorry, but no. Start making cases yourself if you want me to take you seriously.

[Frozen Angel]

The Phantom Agony is the first full-length studio album by Epica. It is the first album recorded by guitarist Mark Jansen after his departure from the band After Forever. The album was produced by Sascha Paeth (known for having produced bands such as Angra, Rhapsody of Fire and Kamelot) and released in June 2003. This album, Mark Jansen continues with the collection of songs that make up "The Embrace That Smothers". The first three parts can be found on Prison of Desire (2000), After Forever's debut album, and the following three parts can be found on The Divine Conspiracy (2007), Epica's third album. These songs deal with the dangers of organized religion. The song “Façade of Reality” on the album was written about the September 11 attacks and includes fragments from speeches by Tony Blair.

The album was followed by three singles: “The Phantom Agony”, “Feint” and “Cry for the Moon”.