Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Frozen Angel]

Vote Count 2.3

Wisdom (2) : Jake from State Farm , Jeanne11
Masquerade (1) : Shiro
Maestro (1) : Wisdom

Not Voting (6) : Aristophanes , Masquerade , nnn_thekushmountains , SnarkySnowman , a plain farmer , Maestro

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-03-29 06:00:00)

Epica : Sensorium

Spoiler: lyrics

Chance doesn't exist
But the path of life is not totally so predestined
And time and chronology show us how all should be
In the ways of existence
To find out why we are here
Being conscious is a torment
The more we learn is the less we get
No one surveys the whole, focus on things so small
But life's objective is to make it meaningful
Only searching for this
That which doesn't exist
Although our ability to relativize remains unclear
Being conscious is a torment
The more we learn is the less we get
Every answer contains a new quest
A quest to non existence, a journey with no end
I'm not afraid to die
I'm afraid to be alive without being aware of it
I'm so afraid to, I couldn't stand to
Waste all my energy on things
that do not matter anymore
Our future has already been written by us alone
But we don't grasp the meaning
of our programmed course of life
We only fear what comes
And smell death every day
Our future has already been wasted by us alone
And we just let it happen and do not worry at all
Our future has already been written by us alone
But we don't grasp the meaning
of our programmed course of life
We only fear what comes
And smell death every day
Search for the answers that lie beyond
Being conscious is a torment
The more we learn is the less we get
Every answer contains a new quest
A quest to non existence, a journey with no end

[Wisdom]

Okay. Then I don't care if you take me seriously. Continue making a fool of yourself.

[Jeanne11]

Well, then answer this. Did you even consider that they could flip town?

[Wisdom]

Have they flipped, Jeanne? Has anyone I've scumread flip town?

[Jeanne11]

No, but my whole point is that they MIGHT.

[Shiro]

Jeane sweetie, You ask him to start giving reasons. He does, you say the same, he asks you to address his reasons if you disagree and you reply that he is hypocritical?

Like.. How?

P.edit

Jeane what you say makes no sense. Please you are better than this. :/

P edit

Jeane of course they might, people can be wrong. By your reasoning nobody should scum read nobody.

[Jeanne11]

I asked you what will you do if they flip town and your sole response was that they won't. No reasonable doubt at all. No consideration that they could be town. None at all.

[Wisdom]

Sure they might, and?

Yeah, I understand you're put off by the certainty I give off but you have to understand it's how I play. Me saying that there's no way Jake is flipping town doesn't mean I believe Jake can't be town. I say a lot of things.

[Jeanne11]

@Shiro The problem is that he won't consider otherwise. Say you think Maestro is scum. Is the right approach to scumread him to oblivion or pause to think 'hey, what if he's town, who could be scum if he is town etc'?

[Jeanne11]

@Wisdom List other possible scumreads you have that are not Jake, Maestro or myself. Then I shall believe you. How does that sound?

[Wisdom]

Who says I am not considering these possibilities, Jeanne? Are you in my mind? All is not what it seems.

The fact I'm now calling Jake town doesn't tell you anything?

[Wisdom]

{Jake, Snarky, Masquerade, Maestro} = lynchpool, that order.

Remove Jake, put Maestro in front

[Shiro]

@Shiro The problem is that he won't consider otherwise. Say you think Maestro is scum. Is the right approach to scumread him to oblivion or pause to think 'hey, what if he's town, who could be scum if he is town etc'?

Sure you might think so but tbh, you keep that to yourself.
If you believe someone is scum abd you want people to follow you then showing doubt will just hinder you.

You are jumping to conclusions without knowing someone's thoughts.

[Jeanne11]

And I am willing to tell you why I am like this. Basically, a user named Tere scum-read despite all my attempts to convince her otherwise, and when I flipped town, she didn't give a damn. Your behaviour right now reminds me of that. So in case they're town, I don't want a repeat.

[Jeanne11]

Sure, if someone hammers town, I'll be all over them, but I'd also think about other possibilities.

[Wisdom]

That's not comparable though, because none of my scumreads have flipped town. If they flipped town and I didn't reconsider, then you'd have a point.

[Jeanne11]

What if I find a game where your scumread did flip town?

[Jake from State Farm]

Jake is town, Jeanne. Maestro isn't.

of course I am, but why the 180 all of a sudden. because now magically maestro is scum and he left you alive to lynch me? like you were a threat to be killed night 1 outside of a possible vig kill that is.

I've said why Maestro is scum, Jeanne. Address my reasoning.

no you didn't, at least not with anything that is actually a reason why he could be scum, just like you didn't give any reason why I was scum originally or why anyone on your list is scum.

[Wisdom]

Sigh. You don't understand. Read 585 again until you get it.

[Jake from State Farm]

Jeanne, who was wisdom in that game you linked?

[Jeanne11]

Well, I found a game where one of your scumreads did flip town.

[Wisdom]

Good job, you're still missing the point thoug

[Wisdom]

though*

[Maestro]

I'm so fucking confused. Is Wisdom an alt and his main is in that game? vice versa?

Sigh. You don't understand. Read 585 again until you get it.

Ok...

Who says I am not considering these possibilities, Jeanne? Are you in my mind? All is not what it seems.

The fact I'm now calling Jake town doesn't tell you anything?

{Jake, Snarky, Masquerade, Maestro} = lynchpool, that order.

Remove Jake, put Maestro in front

Ok. "All is not what it seems" is the epitome of you being your normal slightly-pretentious and unreadable self. The fact that you're now calling Jake so Town he's not even in your lynch pool means you're calling him Town-that's-so-Town-he's-not-even-in-your-lynchpool. Am I missing something other than your reads progressing, which Jeanne is alledging has not happened?

Jake is town, Jeanne. Maestro isn't.

of course I am, but why the 180 all of a sudden. because now magically maestro is scum and he left you alive to lynch me? like you were a threat to be killed night 1 outside of a possible vig kill that is.

You're wrong. He is definitely a threat to Scum, and he knows this. But his logic is then that, given D1 interactions, I expected he would death-tunnel you and thus I left him alive. As if that would overwrite any potential threat he would pose to me if I were Scum. It's confirmation bias: I am Scum, thus I am more likely Scum because he is alive, which must mean that I left him alive to death-tunnel you, because I am Scum. Vicious circle.

Not to mention by the same WiFoM logic I could say that Scum left him alive to think that I left him alive to death-tunnel you... ad infinitum.

I've said why Maestro is scum, Jeanne. Address my reasoning.

no you didn't, at least not with anything that is actually a reason why he could be scum, just like you didn't give any reason why I was scum originally or why anyone on your list is scum.

I still don't see a reason Jake was ever Scum, so I second this as it relates to your "reasoning" for scumreading first him then myself. It usually just annoys me when you don't give reasoning, Wisdom, but here it just seems silly and more than a little stubborn.

[Wisdom]

Jeanne was saying I'm like Tere. She already explained it.