Regarding SIW in post 234
There's been a lot of picking at individual sentences here. What I see here is an earnest Newbie who is a strong town-read.
There's been comments from myself, mhsmith and UTL about how scum "look for easy mislynches". Everything from SIW makes me think she is looking for the "right" lynch.
To any doubters, I say this: playing like this as scum, there is no way she gets through D2/D3. So in the highly unlikely chance that she IS scum, she's an easy catch later in the game because she will have to crystallise her reads. It is inconceivable she could do that as scum without giving herself away when we re-read her D1 play.
tl;dr: she's probably town, if she's scum, she'll be an easy catch on D2/D3.
Regarding Eggman missing SIW off his read-list
I don't like attributing to scum what can easily be put down to Newbiness. That slot is already suspicious IMO, but this does not increase my suspicion.
Reagrding Eggman asking why you don't claim/fakeclaim cop on D1
There's a fairly common piece of meta on this site: "Lynch all liars". For every time that fails. there's 10 times it's sensible. As you are conf!town to you (or should be
), taking a course that gets a conf!town lynched is not a D1 play.If the claim is real, you just put a bullseye on your head.
So mhsmith is correct: don't claim a PR on D1 unless you are at L-1 and have been given notice that someone intends to hammer you.
Regarding YawningAngel
I kinda like post 282. I like it when someone puts reads that are contrary:
mhsmith0: Posts way too much. Has challenged weak players to justify themselves and posted a lot of stuff that seeks to avoid clear town misplays. Efforts are somewhat hampered by an apparent lack of specific scum-hunting, but he's started now. He sounds like he's eaten the entire wiki, but meta aside I don't find anything dubious in his plays. No clear player allies, and a likely NK target. Not worth lynching for now as we can always challenge him later should he continue to come up with nonspecific advice and he's done plenty to justify his existence on day one.
This is an example: whether or not mhsmith has been good/bad town on D1, I do think he is obv!town. Would be easy for scum to just "play along" and NK mhsmith.
Similar point on his read of SIW too.
There is though his read on me:
KickassAndGiggle: Generally solid input, seems to share my reservations about speculation. Lots of output and willingness to back up what he has to say when challenged. Has advanced theories on scum and stuck to them. Suspicious interplay with UpTooLate, advanced more in her section. Does not appear to have initiated any contact with players, plausible NK target. No plausible lynch motive thus far save for questioning how far under the radar he's flown.
Perhaps he needs to use the Activity Overview link at the bottom right of the thread? I am the second highest poster...hardly flying under the radar.
On the whole, I like the post...but it is simply a read-list. Scumhunting involves asking questions, analysing
motivation
more than just words. I would like this slot to involve itself more. Of the "quieter" slots, YA has been loudest, but now we have replacements we could use more...Not enough for me to move him into my town-bloc.
On UpTooLate
I'm struggling now UTL, for a number of reasons:
1) I read the game with Karnage/RC etc and found little real difference in your tone (to the point the issue was raised in this thread). As far as I was concerned, the matter was closed. But then you contradict this and say:
It is different this game from my last. My last game, day 1, I decided to try a more aggressive approach, picked a stupid fight with a newbie trying to push him a little since he said he had nothing to contribute, and I think I may have discouraged him a bit. I don't feel great about how I handled that, and I'm using a new approach this time around. So, yes, there is a difference in tone, you can take it for what you'd like.
Followed by a "clarification":
Ok, I'm here. Also, I didn't see which posts you linked earlier, I should probably do that, but that's not the tone I was talking about? I thought you were meaning my overall approach to the game. I'm going to be different in different games based on playerlists, gamestate, etc. Think of me as a mirror. I tend to reflect the personalities I'm dealing with. This game has had more of a "serious" vibe than my last newbie, so my posting has reflected that
Why are you defending a case like that? Are you worried that you sound different? It was marginal if anything as far as I can tell. And one could say that you ARE now having a little bit of a fight with YA and SIW too. So I'm not sure it's even true.
The defence is FAR more suspicious than the original case.
2) Hmmmm... (you can imagine my eyebrow at half mast when I say that):
There's a wagon on Aero? And no, my vote is not leaving you, in fact I'd like you to be lynched with fire by the end of the day.
Post 284:
lynch YA with fire.
In post 287, UpTooLate wrote:wut. How do you "know" anything?
VOTE: SummerInWonderland
(P.s. he wasn't on the right track)
Post 287:
Votes SIW.
Are you really scum-reading SIW? This is how I read what she posted (post 286):
"I was town reading mhsmith and KAAG. mhsmith made a case on KAAG. I didn't like how KAAG defended it at first. Then we realise mhsmith misread 'least town' as 'AT LEAST town'. I now read them both as town but am not sure about mhsmith's reads"
And you misread that so badly you vote her?
After wanting to lynch YA with fire?
Are you postulating a YA/SIW scum team? Or are you just all over the place?
UNVOTE: Ircher
VOTE: UpTooLate
with a side of 
