Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

Shinobi · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:12 pm

Btw, did SS really shoot himself or is he just trolling?

Firebringer · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:14 pm

In post 1149, Shinobi wrote:I don't really think this is enough tbh.
Is this all you've got?

yep

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:16 pm

SS shot himself because he thought Fire would shoot him and wanted to keep himself alive.
Guess this is one instance where it's good that people weren't listening to me.

Firebringer · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:18 pm

Naah you were just going for a tie Viva.
Don't lie.

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:19 pm

yeah, sorry but tiebreaker draws are cancer.

I feel like you're scum and have just given up.

Firebringer · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:20 pm

Then why don't you vote me nub?
Cause you want to quick hammer?

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:22 pm

Because I've seen you mislynched enough for being a lazy fuck and being town?
Including in a few games where I was scum?
Seriously. Whatever alignment you are you owe this game more effort.

Firebringer · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:24 pm

In post 1156, Viva La Gloria wrote:Because I've seen you mislynched enough for being a lazy fuck and being town?
Including in a few games where I was scum?
Seriously. Whatever alignment you are you owe this game more effort.

You think you can convince me to vote with you if you insult me enough? Not going to work. I am 100% going to hammer you if Shinobi votes you.

The only reason I haven't voted you, is because I have fucked up a lot in LYLO and I thought I would give Shinobi the opportunity to fuck this one up instead.

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:31 pm

Yeah see no that's 100% not how this game works.
I am town. If you're town as well, that makes Shin scum. If you're scum carry on.
So if you're town and are just going to sit there and deathtunnel me over nothing then we've already lost and it's 100% you fucking this up again.

Waiting for someone else to vote first doesn't mean that shit isn't your fault.

Firebringer · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:34 pm

LOL

Radiant, you have called me town and scum several times this game. You haven't taken hard stances on any shit that you won't flip on a dime to get someone to sheep you.

Your scum. I can't find any posts in Shinobi ISO that says he is scum.

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:38 pm

I was pretty fucking hard on SO because I was sure he was scum.
I haven't been nearly as sure about any of my reads until I figured out that SS was Ice. And was pretty fucking hard on that.
I was uninvested and couldn't figure out who the scum was. That's just how the game works.
Tell me, why would I have killed Aristophanes last night when I was the ONLY person here who didn't think he was Ice?

Your scum. I can't find any posts in Shinobi ISO that says he is scum.

This is unfalsifiable.

Firebringer · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:39 pm

In post 1160, Viva La Gloria wrote:I was pretty fucking hard on SO because I was sure he was scum.
I haven't been nearly as sure about any of my reads until I figured out that SS was Ice. And was pretty fucking hard on that.
I was uninvested and couldn't figure out who the scum was. That's just how the game works.
Tell me, why would I have killed Aristophanes last night when I was the ONLY person here who didn't think he was Ice?

I am supposed to explain kills to you?
Kills are all WIFOM. I am not going to go into the whole "WHY DID X DIE HUH".

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:41 pm

Last night was obvious cross kill attempt night.
Both you and Shinobi thought Aristo was Ice. I didn't. Aristo was shot by fire.
It doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that I'm town here dude.

Firebringer · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:43 pm

In post 1162, Viva La Gloria wrote:Last night was obvious cross kill attempt night.
Both you and Shinobi thought Aristo was Ice. I didn't. Aristo was shot by fire.
It doesn't take a fucking genius to realize that I'm town here dude.

It was cross kill attempt or attempt to make the game a draw.
Aristo kill means they were trying to kill Ice.

Doesn't mean you didn't secretly think Aristo was Ice and went for the kill.

Everyone has been calling me most likely Ice for days, now that makes me town, right? No, its fucking circular logic.

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:48 pm

so

1) I would never attempt to force a draw. There's literally no reason for me to have done so.
2) secretly thought Aristo was Ice? lol.
If I did why did I put him down as Fire, making him likely to shoot me for his safety, while not even pushing for his lynch to get rid of his shot.
I only had SS voted for the entire second half of the day. That doesn't even start to make sense.
3) No, what the fuck? These things aren't even fucking comparable.

Firebringer · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:53 pm

In post 1164, Viva La Gloria wrote:so

1) I would never attempt to force a draw. There's literally no reason for me to have done so.
2) secretly thought Aristo was Ice? lol.
If I did why did I put him down as Fire, making him likely to shoot me for his safety, while not even pushing for his lynch to get rid of his shot.
I only had SS voted for the entire second half of the day. That doesn't even start to make sense.
3) No, what the fuck? These things aren't even fucking comparable.

1) To deny town a win. Yes there is a reason. Just not optimal.
2) So your saying a scum would be honest with their reads? Because scum are 100% honest in the day chat about their scum reads.
3) No clue what your talking about.

Shinobi · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 1152, Viva La Gloria wrote:SS shot himself because he thought Fire would shoot him and wanted to keep himself alive.
Guess this is one instance where it's good that people weren't listening to me.

This is a thing?

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:03 pm

The nightkill of the Fire Mafia and the Ice Mafia will fail if both groups of mafia target the same person.

Shinobi · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:15 pm

Why can I not find this anywhere?

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:48 pm

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fire_and_Ice

It's not in the OP of this one but that's how it works.

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:49 pm

I really don't like how you're not addressing the game at all Shin.

Firebringer · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:46 pm

Kind of like how you were the previous day cycle?

Viva La Gloria · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:51 pm

You mean the day that I couldn't get a single one of you idiots to actually vote scum and where if SS hadn't self targeted like an idiot we'd have lost this because he'd have probably shot me?

Fuck off. I called scum and was ignored and lost interest. There's a huge difference between that and Shinobi asking completely pointless questions and not getting at all involved between us.

Firebringer · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:10 am

In post 1172, Viva La Gloria wrote:You mean the day that I couldn't get a single one of you idiots to actually vote scum and where if SS hadn't self targeted like an idiot we'd have lost this because he'd have probably shot me?

Fuck off. I called scum and was ignored and lost interest. There's a huge difference between that and Shinobi asking completely pointless questions and not getting at all involved between us.

Thats not true and you know it dipshit.

Voting in a MYLO is not a good idea when we could have easily mislynched and you know it.

Shinobi · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:14 am

In post 1172, Viva La Gloria wrote:You mean the day that I couldn't get a single one of you idiots to actually vote scum and where if SS hadn't self targeted like an idiot we'd have lost this because he'd have probably shot me?

Fuck off. I called scum and was ignored and lost interest. There's a huge difference between that and Shinobi asking completely pointless questions and not getting at all involved between us.

I don't necessarily think this is how any of that happened tbh.